DUDE, WE WANT THAT BIOSHOCK AUDIENCE, LMAO

DUDE, WE WANT THAT BIOSHOCK AUDIENCE, LMAO

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7 and OP fucking dies

How is it even remotely a bioshock ripoff?

that DLC was the only good part of this siht game
everybody who likes RPG shooter hybrids should neck themselves

Are you fucking kidding me?

how is it like bioshock
apart from it being a first person shooter

DUDE, WE WANT THAT PORTAL AUDIENCE. XD

Dead Money was horseshit. The only good DLC was honest hearts for the story (so a single playthrough) and Old World Blues for that fallout 1 retro tech feel.

I don't even fucking remember if there was another one.

>I don't even fucking remember if there was another one.

You aren't missing much tbqh.

7 and this guy fucking dies

I enjoy all of the DLC's and there is nothing you can do to stop me.

>honest hearts
>"DUDE WE WANT THE CUSTERS REVENGE AUDIENCE LAMO

0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 and this guy is an imbecile

>Sup Forums suddenly hates new vegas

In retrospect New Vegas is just 3 with a bit of wood-polish. It's not really that great.

With goalposts that wide you'd have to be both blind and dumb not to score.

>DUDE, WE WANT THAT THE LINE SPEC OPS AUDIENCE, LMAO
see what i did right here?

Nope. And I mean what did they add that doesn't fit in Fallout to make it like Bioshock? Obviously the setting overlaps both games.

NV has a shitton more content than 3. even if the two play the same, NV is much more enjoyable.

They run on the same engine, that's pretty much it for the similarities

The "wood polish" you're talking about is an entire game

> more content.
Meaningless drivel is what it was. The best quests are the early ones.

> pretty much it.
The overarching theme of military occupation in both games didn't strike you, then.

Because both Bioshock and Fallout are run-down retro and the Sierra Madre especially was Art Deco like Rapture

And because the Ghosts are somewhat scary and ammo is more scarce so the setting feels somewhat similar to Bioshock I guess

>military occupation as an overarching theme in new vegas

Pfffttthhahahaha

DUDE, WE WANT THAT SKYRIM AUDIENCE, LMAO

By the time you start the game it's made pretty apparent that New Vegas is under the thumb of NCR.

Nice non-response btw.

>The overarching theme of military occupation
>the theme

That doesn't really mean anything since in Fallout 3 you had 2 factions, one of which the main quest makes you join.

In NV you have 4 main factions, all of which compete for power and you can join, as well as ally and join several smaller factions.

That's about 4 times more complex and better, not "polished a little bit"

>by the time you start the game, it's apparent the NCR controls vegas

Thanks for revealing you have no idea what youre talking about and at best did the NCR ending if you finished the game at all :^)

FOOKIN WRECKED

Dude what, did you play the game?

They're overexpanded and can't defend their territory which should be apparent by the time you reach Nipton, they barely held the Dam by blowing up an entire city behind them.

The NCR is arguably the faction that is in the shittiest situation in that conflict in the whole game

Not OP but Dead Money is obviously inspired by Bioshock

> you can join several smaller, irrelevant factions.

Nothing about the boomers would be any different if you stuck a bunch of wasteland prospectors in there. Same goes for the Khans and the Brotherhood to an extent.

The characters are all cut-and-paste. Only a handful of individuals actually stand out.

5 and OP's post is a fucking lie

Absolutely untrue. Now i know youve never finished the game

How?

Except they have holdings right outside the New Vegas strip and have troopers openly touring the casinos.

>nothing about the faction would be any different if you just take away the backstory and the identity of a faction, then remove all the people and just put a bunch of hobos in there for no reason

DUDE WE WANT THE AUTISTIC AUDIENCE, AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

And you just showed you aren't capable of having an opinion that didn't come from someone else. Have a nice life.

> no different whatsoever.

So what is it that makes the Boomers stand out, user?

Or the Khans, if you'd prefer.

NCR citizens are House's biggest income

House doesn't care about anything outside the New Vegas Strip before the battle of Hoover Dam

This is only possible because they're not in war with House

The beotherhood khans and booers all have detailed backstories (and i dont even mean from previous games, the khans and brotherhood had events occur in New Vegas' recent past that placed them in the situations they are), and you have several options regarding what their fate will become after the game. In fact, you have several options within each ending for each of these factions. They are absolutely nothing like generic prospectors. Speaking of, you have never given a reason why you think something so silly in the first place.

1. Similar survival theme (Elijah takes all your weapons at the start)
2. Similar emphasis on crafting and vending machines
3. Similar map design, ie closed off envioments (notably a casino and a small mountain town) that aren't open (not "open world", but in the sense that you can't walk around the town itself, the buildings hem you in)
4. Enemies are crazy due to drugs/the cloud and cannot be reasoned with in any way
5. Art Deco theme
6. Same goal: kill the person that trapped you (in Bioshock 1 it was Ryan and Fontaine, in 2 it was Lamb)

It's not bad though.

They have origin stories and identities

That's what makes literally all people in the real world stand out

>Fallout Wiki dot com slash Boomers
>Fallout Wiki dot com slash Great Khans

Putting a bunch of random people in there, then giving them a backstory of a vault and a culture and identity, they would literally be the Boomers again

> House is literally a parasite living off of the territory near the New Vegas Strip.

Remind me how great things were again before the Courier showed up.

Nothing you just said describes any of their independent qualities or characteristics.

Try again.

They werent the whole point was he needed the chip to make new vegas great again

The situation the player character in, reflecting on the gameplay, is similar then.

People who liked Bioshock would likely enjoy that but why is that a critique?

Lore-wise there's no reason why this couldn't happen in Fallout and it's a brilliant DLC overall

>NCR citizens are House's biggest income

And that makes House the NCR's bitch, at least temporarily if he pisses off the NCR they could restrict travel to his town or create their own Las Vegas. Hence why House's end goal is space colonization (funded by sales of military equipment to the NCR), so he can be a god on the moon without relying on them.

Im not going to list every one if their unique characteristics because there are too many. You can look at the fallout wiki and be proven wrong several times over. But i know you wont because it doesnt count since i didnt post it here and this is a non argument.

You still havent said why you think these factions are as generic as prospectors

>but why is that a critique?

It's not, OP is just a cockgobbler.

Id also add some other small references like vending machines, holograms resembling big daddies and radio=security cameras

*swishes tail back and forth*
Don't you think you're being a little...silly? x3

Except that's not how societies and identity actually works when you look at it academically.

The Romans were great organizers for example. Their ability to plan and perform complex strategy is what won them so many battles, much moreso than their advanced technology or self-righteous indignation (which is a contemporary anachronism).

This is shown in nearly every aspect of Roman life, and you can see it in the way they planned their towns and cities.

Let's compare this to Caesar's Legion, which blatantly rips off the Roman model but does so in such a shitty way it's not even funny.

If Caesar dies, the legion dies with him. That is exactly how nondescript and anonymous those soldiers are once you take away the uniforms.

House with the mk 2 securitron army doesnt have to worry about ncr invasion because it would be too costly for them when all they really want is the dam. Which he doesnt even need anymore because of the el dorado substation

And if NCR restricts travel to NV, citizens will just leave

Holy shit, did you even play the game? Caesar addresses ALL of this in the game. He knows the legion is nothing like Rome at the time of the game.

You know what, I take back what I said about the Boomers. That one segment with the history of the tribe is possibly the best thing about them and was one of the redeeming features of New Vegas.

Are there any other examples as rich in lore and character as that one scene in the game?

Drugged out enemies and an art deco theme are literally the only semi-decent comparisons. The rest are just fucking video games.

Like really is Metroid a fucking Bioshock ripoff because it has a survival theme and they take all your weapons at the start? It's a long running gaming trope to put in an excuse to reset a badass to square one by taking away their toys.

>or create their own Las Vegas

With their technology, outside House's walled-in city where he and his 3 families already hold all the pre-war infrastructure that he preserved amidst all the Fiends and you know, the whole situation where they're in war with the Legion and don't have the logistics to keep up with them?

When you benefit from someone financially but they can't take you over because you have 9000 Robocops is actually very unsavory for the other party because their citizens are draining their economy into your pockets

Besides House had his robot army that is his main muscle well before he revitalised New Vegas, so that income mainly just creates quality of life within the Strip

Maybe if he pulled his fucking finger out and set up a proper camp instead of that crude shantytown he might get somewhere.

>If Caesar dies, the legion dies with him

This is literally a piece of dialogue IN THE GAME, word to word

NCR would fuck House's shit up if they got serious about it. And no, they weren't serious when Hoover Dam happened.

So the game itself admits that the uniforms and the livery is all just an illusion and the characters inside them are boring cut-and-paste NPCs that don't actually have identities.

Seriously. The uniform system was retarded.

Again, have you spoken to legion characters in the game? Everything they do is explained, every shortcoming is either explained as intentional for a certain reason or something theyre trying to fix. the only one i can think of that isnt accounted for is caesars lack of an heir

Invasion isn't a problem, money is. House needs NCR citizens to be able to freely flow into his city. If not, he's outta cash and his city's growth is stunted. The NCR have a huge amount of control over him in that regard, they even have a checkpoint (the Mojave Outpost) that could be used to stop people from moving through. It'd only be a matter of pissing them off.

>When you benefit from someone financially but they can't take you over because you have 9000 Robocops is actually very unsavory for the other party because their citizens are draining their economy into your pockets

It's not about control, it's about economics. NCR could lock down the border and force their citizens to use NCR gambling facilities. They wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

>more content
>better DLC
>more guns
>more quests, that are better than in fallout 3
>multiple endings, something fallout 3 forgot to have

They took quite literally everything except the map design, and made it better. You should probably actually play the game a second time, and trying something new.

Yes, just with the khans and brotherhood they dont tell it all to you in one scene, you get pieces of it from several characters across the game and DLCs

I would rather grate my own dick off with sandpaper than play anything even remotely related to bethesda again.

The uniformity is required because the Legion conquers tribes and then has to suppress and destroy their cultures and identities so that there is no infighting, that is the point

Because this is all based on uniting them under Caesar the warrior god, yeah, it would fall apart once he dies

> brotherhood.
Their most interesting character was in the DLC. Which was shit.

> khans.
Shouldn't even fucking be in it.

>Dude let's make a survival stealth expansion when the game's engine isn't made for that gameplay lmao

Yeah, I love crawling around in a linear map with 100 sneak and still being in a perpetual CAUTION state from an enemy that has two walls between us.

So we're agreed that Caesar's Legion is a shitty faction. a Proverbial one-trick-pony.

Post your squad

>NCR could lock down the border

Their own army is one of the main forces that sneak off to gamble because House's bread and circuses are that much better than anyone else's. Play the game.

They want to expand into Vegas to control the Hoover Dam, so their border would be right next to him. Border control with NCR resources as compared to current countries would work, when House welcomes all customers? Right.

Not addressing the Fiends, the Legion, and House's robot army at all in just these things.

>survival theme
What? You mean like fallout?
>crafting and vending machines
Ill give you vending machines but crafting? I never did that in dead money and never felt like there was an empahisis on it
>map design
That isnt exclusive to bioshock and hell bioshock was far more cramped
>crazy enemies
You mean like ghouls? Because thats practically what ghost people are. And since when did you have to dismember splicers to kill them?
>art deco
Oh fuck off fallout did that first retard
>goal
Yeah bioshock invented revenge tales.

8

It is and it's clearly by design since they state the same exact things you said in the game

You would prefer flawless factions then?

7 and this fucker's dead in three seconds.

I dont like either faction and usually kill them both but they still have unique backstories and characrers that make you want to kill them

I would prefer factions that are made up of individuals and not braindead automatons with even less personality that House's Robots. Yes.

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Thoughts on this mod?
I'm not too worried about making things too easy as I have plenty of mods that make the game more difficult.

Who?

Plus Dead Money wasn't even a revenge tale

It was a disturbing treasure hunt and the emphasis was on greed and obsession and falling to those things of your own accord being your downfall, which they play a joke on you in the vault with when they give you the gold bars that exceed your carry weight several times

Bioshock's theme is the exact opposite, nothing you do is of your own accord

> he needs a reason to want to kill things in new vegas.

Genocide run is immensely satisfying user. Wipe the slate clean and see what really lies beneath the surface.

> re-used asset.
> re-used asset.
> re-used asset with added textures.
> NPC #297 who ate a bullet and glitched out the world.

etc.

They have more personality than robots. They dont have a lot of characters because they are underwritten, but the ones they have are pretty unique from any non legion character. They show the different ideologies of the legio

Youre obviously just an idiot who cant into rpgs or roleplaying. thanks for showing how stupid tou are to everyone

>dude if you boil it down youre just killing variations of 1s and 0s shit characters theyre all the same lmao!!!

I thought those ideologies were supposed to have been crushed, user.

So you didn't talk to any of the Legionaries in the game? Neither the grunts or the significant ones?

Their dialogue clearly hints at their tribal backgrounds and that they are somewhat self-aware of and might even have internal struggles about the uniformity and absolute obedience with stuff like talking about the burned man

Actually I just finished a tabletop roleplaying campaign this very night user. I think I know a little more about character than you give me credit.

At least when it comes to genuine character with motivations and history rather than a bunch of hurriedly-scrapped together personality traits generated by the meme-magicians in charge of this little circus.

You know, like 90% of most modern games are.

dead money is stupid easy
>run to dead money immediately
>level 3, guns 27
>enemies scaled appropriately
>use police pistol exclusively, even with my unarmed build
>two shots with .357 standard ammo kill a ghost
>literally waltz out of sierra madre with 5 gold bars and enough chips for 400 stimpaks
its basically cheating. i get a voucher every day for 1k chips and it all goes into stimpaks. i may as well have godmode on

No, the ideologies if the separate tribes were, the legion has its own set of ideologies that you see in the game

>You mean like fallout?

Fo1 wasn't survival insomuch as an RPG. You started out with a handgun and more or less everything you needed to beat the game if you specced right. Bioshock and Bioshock 2 introduce each weapon slowly, as does Dead Money.

>I never did that in dead money and never felt like there was an empahisis on it

Same goes for Bioshock 1.

>That isnt exclusive to bioshock and hell bioshock was far more cramped

It isn't, but Bioshock just did it very well.

>You mean like ghouls? Because thats practically what ghost people are.

That's basically what Splicers are, too.

>Oh fuck off fallout did that first retard

not really, outside of the cars and vault city (in Fallout 2) most everything looked normal

>Yeah bioshock invented revenge tales.

it's a trait all three have

In fairness, I'll grant you this: everything I said here can also apply to System Shock. DM isn't particularly innovative in terms of gameplay.

I'd argue there's two DLCs that show they haven't.
They have been crushed and molded into the legion, yes, but outward actions don't always portray how someone thinks. You can still hold ideals without outwardly displaying them.

Is there any mods that let me have Joshua as a companion in the main game?

See because you're supposed to play the game and then make sense of the stuff

All your arguments are either
>stating something that is clearly stated in the game because you foresaw it but expected it to not be there because you expect yourself to be intellectually superior so you stop playing the game to point it out before the game points it out for you
or
>you want Sup Forums to spoonfeed you about things you didn't have the attention span to actually notice or pay any thought to, downright claiming things in the game don't exist because you didn't play those parts in the game or were somehow clinically unaware of your surroundings to the point where you didn't notice them

That's entirely believable until you start bringing slavery into it.

7 and this guy fucking dies NOW

You clearly just don't like that someone might not like your favorite vidya m8.

In retrospect Fallout 4 was Morrowind with just a bit of wood-polish.

Oh definitely. I was more trying to point out Caesar's legion seems to grow by enslaving and turning their enemies then killing anyone who refuses to submit. The soldiers themselves would likely be a complete mess of scrambled identities but they still have to march under the flag if they don't want to die.

Yeah there is, you go on the mod website and write "Joshua Graham" possibly followed by "companion" in the search field

Sorry for rude, here: nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56791/?