There is literally NO argument and no way explaining Zoras existing in the same game as Rito...

There is literally NO argument and no way explaining Zoras existing in the same game as Rito. Wind Waker stated Zoras developed into Rito so no one can get close Hyrule castle/Ganondorf.

Nintendo fucked up.

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Convergence of timelines

Convergence in the timelines somewhere before the last 10k years.

Next question.

Rito were forcibly developed from Zora to prevent them from aceasing Hyrule by exploiting some possible evolutionary pathway. In this timeline, the evolution went naturally instead of by force, on some isolated population of Zora. Same process that differentiated the freshwater from saltwater Zora.

Humans evolved from apes and apes are still there

This

The apes we evolved from are not alive anymore.

There is literally NO argument and no way explaining apes existing in the same world as humans.

God fucked up.

Zelda having deepest lore is a meme.
The games aren't connected. The worlds aren't connected. There's no timeline.
Each game is a stand alone entry in the Zelda series. Just like every Mario game is its own thing.
Don't fool yourself into thinking there's more to it because it's the only Nintendo franchise with something close to an actual story.

who fucking cares

I'd rather have a good game

The Zora in BOTW are not identical to those of OoT.

No game has deepest lore, but some people are lonely with nothing to do, so we have to deal with this shit.

>so we have to deal
Why do you have to? Don't you have something else to do?

Or the whole thing is bullshit.

That don't really works because the Zora were magically transformed in Rito in a timeline and both Zora and Rito exist in an another game without explanation.
So it's a bit weird.

>The games aren't connected.
But that's blatantly false. Disregarding the Capcom games, practically every single game has been made as a continuation of another. Just because Nintendo doesn't care about every single minute detail doesn't mean there isn't any continuity.

Yes there is, 10,000 FUCKING YEARS HAVE PASS RETARD, YOU DON'T NECESSARY NEE DIVE INTERVENTION FOR EVOLUTION

>The games aren't connected. The worlds aren't connected. There's no timeline.
Honestly, where did you heard this? Where does it come the retarded idea of "it's the same story but told differently every time"

If this is supposed to be a timeline-converged game then what came from the defeat timeline? Most shit seems to come from the child timeline and the only part of adult timeline that seems to have carried over is the rito.

they never should have acknowledged the timeline bullshit. it was fine having a few references/easter eggs between games but they should have stuck with the whole games existing by themselves and basically being retellings of the same legend (besides direct sequels like MM and LA)

they fucked up

What connects ALBW with Zelda 1?

I really don't think Nintendo gives a shit.

It was never really confirmed that "GODDESSES DID IT," only that the Rito were descended from the Zora in some fashion.
The real explanation is "over 10000 years have passed, all sorts of bullshit is possible."

How does this explain anything? How is this even logical? Zoras factually don't exist in a time where Rito exist. And then suddenly they exist again.

they resemble the bird people from zelda 2 more than the rito from WW though

Neither are the Zora that the Rito/Zora from BotW evolved from.

LoZ 2 is a sequel to LoZ, MM to OoT, links awakening and link between worlds to link to the past, phantom hourglass to windwaker, ect

It just goes chronologically. The NES games are the loosest games out of all of them, but they have to occur after AlttP for Ganon to work. Since ALBW is directly connected to AlttP, it must also come before the NES games.

Think of it this way, if you took off ALBW, it would still only be a loose connection between LA and LoZ.

Or or or, this timeline is the same as Twilight Princess where Rito didn't exist and it's factually been 10,000 years later so Rito could have formed from regular fucking birds or something else.

And why is it so hard for you to consider that the Rito simply branched off naturally from the Zora in the post-TP timeline?

Clearly, the Zora evolved from the Rito.

what if the world only got partially flooded so the gods only turned some zoras into rito?

Fair
I do agree with your main point though, the plot holes in this series continuity only appear when you over-analyze and/or think about the capcom games.
Even shit like the divine prank can be explained

How are there evil River Zora in one timeline but none in another?

Same reason why the Rito evolved from Zora in one timeline and didn't in the other.

maybe because the timeline shit is stupid, so they don't care about it

This guy gets it

How do you explain the Dragon Roost Island theme in Rito villiage if it doesn't take place after WW? :^)

>downfall timeline
>zora become loyal to ganon to survive
makes sense to me

>area themes
>having shit to do with canon
By that logic Saria was in TP and Majora

saria was in the same timeline as those 2

>Game is full of literal gods and magic
>You can't explain it!

No, I sure as hell can.

Because they evolved from fokka

the only thing this guy gets is his cousins puss puss on the sly

Next you're gonna have an explanation for why "Romani Plains" exist in BotW

How can monkeys exist if humans do too? Check mate atheists.

What if the Zelda timeline was actually just nonsense?

No, that couldn't be.

Saria is in every timeline
That was an example of why that shit is stupid

But where does Super Smash fit in the timeline?

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What game is Breath of the Wild a sequel to?

by that logic how is there level 9 music in the game if its in the WW timeline?

Our ancestor that we evolved from is long gone. We did not evolve from any ape that is alive today, we shared a common ancestor. The game explicitly says they are directly descended from them

Oooh, there is? Where?

>The games aren't connected
End of a linked Oracles game Link sets out a raft
Start of Link's Awakening is that very same Link on the same raft

>implying a segregated Zora species couldn't of developed differently than those that became Rito

you are retarded son

The apes that is alive today is not the ones we evolved from.

>tfw Nintendo gives enough of a fuck to give Fierce Deity cameos now and then but not enough of a fuck to talk about his and Termina's backstory

And the Zoras alive in BoTW look nothing like the ones in OoT, MM and TP

It's a video game. I hope Nintendo did it just for this point. It's a video game. They can do what they want. It doesn't have to match up with your logic

[spoilers]Lynels have only appeared in games from the Downfall timeline. In fact, all games from the Downfall timeline feature Lynels, the two exceptions being Link's Adventure (which was a direct sequel to the original Legend Zelda, so Lynels are in the world despite not being in the game) and Link's Awakening (which was a dream anyway, and that Link has been confirmed to be the same Link from Link to the Past, which DOES have Lynels).

I like his backstory from the MM manga

So its the River zora who became the new Zora while the original fully evolved into bird people

Fixed
Stop trying to put the NES games in the same continuity as the others, they just don't fit
The connections between LttP and OoT are also tenuous as fuck

Ok, I'll do my best to explain this, as in "THIS" took place in the defeated hero line.

>In WW the Godesses didn't just turn Zora into Rito, but rather they just fast forwarded the evolution process up intil a point where they coulnd't swim underwater anymore, so, in BotW, it just so happened that they brached off sometime and some developed wings and some didn't, but the Zoras in this game clearly look different from the ones in OoT, colors and variations on their fins too.

>2.- The Godesses actually just transformed the Zoras in WW into Ritos (Another species that lived far away from Hyrule during the flood, so, Ritos and Zoras have always coexisted, it just so hapenned that we never met any in Ocarina of time or any game before it), so, there is no "common ancestor" between them, just that they all were transformed into another pre-existing species.

3.-Taking point 1 into account, maybe BotW takes place at the end of the downfall timeline but Ritos were River Zoras who finally evolved and Sea Zoras remianed pretty much the same-ish.

There is no continuity anymore, also convergence only creates more plotholes.

>timeline faggotry

>WW coming AFTER MM

If anything, it should branch right in Ocarina, as it always had.

I'd argue that TP and TWW are not in the same continuity of OoT and MM.

But it is much more accurate.

>Zoras factually don't exist in a time where Rito exist.

The Zoras in Termina lived in the sea instead of freshwater. You could argue that the Termina Zora were biologically different from the Hyrule Zora but that opens a huge can of worms where every other human in Termina might have some evolutionary adaption that their Hyrule counterparts don't. The most plausible scenario is that the Hyrule Zora can survive in freshwater and saltwater. Hyrule flooding wouldn't necessarily wipe out the Zora if they can survive in saltwater. Some Zoras remained in Zora domain and others went up to land and evolved into Rito. When Hyrule stopped being flooded the Rito exist and the Zora will be where they've always been.

death mountains ambient music is level 9 music from zelda 1

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Why is LA there but not the Oracles?
The Oracles at least told a proper story and wasn't a dream.

I think it's pretty obvious OoT was meant to be a prequel to aLttP before they retconned it.

All you did was seperate the loose connections from each other and mistakenly put WW after MM.

This guy knows

>There is no continuity anymore

There never was, people need to stop pushing this "Zelda timeline" shit.

WW has that bit about the Triforce getting broken after Link left for another land that seemed like a pretty obvious tie in to MM

But Zoras DO live in salt water too (Confirmed in Oracle of Ages where both Zora species appear).

It breaks apart because he is sent back in time you fucking mong.

What happened to all of the precursor species from Skyward Sword? There were the kikwis, the mole people, the seahorse things, and those robots.

But then...if both TP and WW take place AFTER MM (Where Link is a child again and leaves for Termina, which btw is not just a dream inside SK head lel) what happened to the Adult Timeline? In fact, WW CANNOT happen during the child era since they clearly reference the Final Battle and events from the Adult timeline, also "going to another land" could just mean he went back to the past.

Timeline doesn't exist.
Only Zelda games that connect are ones specifically stated to do so. (Oracles to LA, OoT to MaM and Zelda 1 to 2 for example)

There, now everything can exist together in harmony

there's some continuity.

OOT>WW>PH>ST
OOT>LTTP>LAOOT>MM>TP
ZELDA1>LINKS ADVENTURE

are all pretty obvious sequels to each other

the real question is why are goddess statues all over the place when no other zelda after SS had them before?

Genocide committed by the Hylians.

There is literally NO argument and no way explaining chimps existing in the same time as humans

This

Are you overlooking the fact that there are fucking Koroks ripped straight from Windwaker in BoTW? Koroks literally evolved from the Kokiri of OoT so logically BoTW takes place after WW.

Why is there a 3 way split after OoT, I thought it was either the Hero of time Won or Lost?

What I want to know is why the springs from SS are present mostly unchanged from their SS forms in BotW.

Fixed your fix

The Zelda games coexist in alternate dimensions like the Wild Arms series.

WW took over AlttP's spot for it's timeline placement, so they made a what-if scenario in which OoT Link dies in order to make it work.

>There is no continuity anymore
there never war until autists wouldn't let it go, why does shit need to be connected

They could also evolve in another timeline, bear in mind, the Deku Tree is VERY over protective of the children of the forest, so maybe in most games, he doesn't want to get involved in that shit for the safety of the kids, so maybe in the end they all just turned into trees or something.

Mikau Lake and Lulu Lake are also in BotW.

Names for nostalgia sake.

It's a video game. Fuck the timeline bullshit.

Because people like to have fun discussing things. You know, the thing this fucking website was invented for.

>Kikwis
Interspecies sex led to the Kokiri

>Moles
Ded or living deeper underground

>Seahorse
Most likely are Zoras now

>Robots
Non-organic, more were never built, just rotted away, wich begs the question, who built them? And, why was there such advanved tech so far into the past? Is the Zelda series taking place in a post apocalyptic world? (And in some games, it IS a fucking post-post-post apocalyptic world it seems).

Right, evolution is bullshit and so is this game's ecology.

probably built by the shiekah. Its obvious that the shiekah existed long before SS happened.