Why would you spend $1500 instead of a $300 console if you still pay $65 for each game?
PC Gaming hardware will go down by about 90% within 2 years if this Denuvo meme continues
>every week a new Denuvo game
>every game worth playing has it
>CPY cant keep up
>only professional pirates play Denuvo games for $4 each
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Did they ever crack any Denuvo games?
What makes you think that only pirates play pc games/build pc hardware for games?
they did. but the process takes months usually
I don't think there is 90% margin for hardware to lower that much. Besides, if PC gaming died, hardware would just emphasize other computationally expensive tasks.
I love how it triggers piratefags.
>i can't steal my vidya
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I play denuvo games for 1$ each in my country
statistics show that around 75% of pc gamers are pirates
in third world countries like mine, less than 1% of pc gamers buy games
If you don't buy games anyway why should making it harder for you to steal them make the market plummet?
>statistics show that around 75% of pc gamers are pirates
Link me those statistics.
That's a damn shame. Maybe one day, people will be encouraged to actually buy games.
>people
Third worlders don't qualify
How are these statistics made up? I can pirate a game right now or i can not download it, nobody will know.
Also nobody gives a shit about denuvo
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in a couple years
you guys just wait until the word gets out that piracy died on pc
the GPU market will shrink so hard so fast; i have no idea what will happen
Sony always wins baby
It'll probably just cater more to GPGPU use cases.
No, I'm a pirate that pirates 99% of the stuff I play since I'm expecting 99% of it to be trash, and I welcome Denuvo with open hands.
>w-why?
Because it's the death of single player games. You either get an overpriced single player Denuvo game, or one that prevents piracy by being online and restricting access to servers unless you pay, but is cheaper
Single player themeparks are a relic of the age of slow internet that is overliving its lifetime. Sorry guys, but its true. It must die.
I would never have got a PC if it wasnt for easy piracy.
same for the wiiu i recently bought
activation servers are on sony
>Because it's the death of single player games.
And this would be good why?
>Denuvo will destroy PC gaming
So you have to wait a few months for a crack. Big deal. Most games are not worth a day one purchase anyway since they launch broken and incomplete.
Or people will stop buying games with Denuvo and publishers will be forced to stop including that glorified malware.
Because as I said, they're a relic of a past which lacked good internet connection. I'd rather have more MMOs that continue to be fun 100 hours later than more cheap single player shit that lasts for 7-8 hours and costs $50
This. Vote with your wallets, People.
Things won't get better for you paying customers if you keep supporting this crap.
Denuvo only affects pirates for a few months but the guys actually buying these games will keep getting fucked in the ass in the long run.
t. Sony shill. Still not buying your Bloodborne machine, cuck.
I don't see anything wrong with Denuvo.
It doesn't even stop mods, I'm using a few in Nier Automata
I wait a few months before purchasing a game for consoles nevermind to pirate
>paying £50-£60 for a video game
>paying £80-£100 for a special edition
The prices still plummet to £15 after a few months anyway
>every game worth playing has it
Almost no game worth playing has it.
I will lose nothing if I never play another Denuvo game again.
you are crazy . be quiet please. your argument is equivalent to saying that No Man's sky world is better than gta5's
op here
few months or never basically
fat chance (the performance hit depends on how good devs are)
>wanting to deal with the human garbage that is most online game communities
>its another episode of console warriors spreading fud
whoa
Statistics show that you're a faggot.
>I'd rather have more MMOs that continue to be fun 100 hours later
I haven't seen a MMO that's fun past the first 5 or so hours since WoW came out.
WoW killed the MMO genre.
Statistics show that 110% of console gamers pirate.
Nooooooo! Damn you! Damn you all to hell! I just bought a geeksquad certified $5000 dollar PC and had the unholy trinity service (steam + ubiplay + origin come installed and configured for ~$50), and was running low on cash so I thought I'd pirate. But now you're telling me I can't??!?
nice joke
99% of steamtārds dont care.
Even xböts made microsoft change their mind on 24h activation and used games, pcücks have been gobbling up drm for years, they're anesthetized on drm.
let's say they successfully boycott a game, imagine if nier A sold 5k, what would happen? they stop porting to pc.
I'm a console gamer and I pirate every game twice. That means companies lose their money two times.
this, pirating day 1 games fucking sucks too because you have to download broken ass pirate patches that sometimes don't work.
>Why would you spend more money for better performance and more freedom over things like controller inputs if the games are the same price?
>statistics
Do tell us about the methodology here, how'd they estimate piracy rates? Given the level of hubris in this industry I wouldn't be surprised if it was literally (Number of sales)/(number of people who own a pc)
Where dat nier automata i wonder how goes the reverse engineering of the game's .exe dump.
you can build a pc for 800 dollars that will blow ps4 (and ps4 pro in 4K, but below 60fps) out of water.
also, you don't have to buy all previously bought games every time you switch to new generation of hardware.
it doesnt matter, denuvo or ps4, they're both sony products, sony always wins
>you are crazy . be quiet please. your argument is equivalent to saying that No Man's sky world is better than gta5's
No, my argument is that a GTA MMO that is actually invested into being compatible with many players playing it is worth the monthly subscription of $15 far more than a single-player GTA that gets boring right after the 10th hour for $40
With the one model you get far more fun per month for the small price of $15 and it never ends, with the second you get baited into paying $40 for 10 hours (make that $60 if they include Denuvo with the next version)
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>Falling for bait this obvious
>go to type out response about how its a bullshit minority
>realise I pirate the occassional retro PC game that are borderline impossible to legitimately buy these days and thus am technically a pirate
>only professional pirates play Denuvo games for $4 each
> profesional pirates
Fucking poser I swear.
NIce strategy, shill. I guess pirates didn't give a shit about the guilt-tripping you shills normally resort to.
>still pay $65 for each game
I don't.
statistics show you are gay and your mom has a big fat cock
ahhh the pc graphics meme
I REPEAT
>Why would you spend $1500 instead of a $300 console if you still pay $65 for each game
maybe to have 8x AA instead of 2x AA? that level of autism is actually rare...also ps4pro is here. dont get me wrong....i am a Pcbro myself
ps4pro probably has better visuals than 90% of pc gamers
>technically a pirate
Honestly, I'd wager that 100% of gamers are "technically a pirate" if you go by industry definitions.
This is a pointless statistic, really.
If better graphics are a meme, then the PS4 Pro and Scorpio are nothing but meme machines.
Turns out people will pay more money for better looking results, even console gamers.
>ps4pro probably has better visuals than 90% of pc gamers
Well yeah, but spending $1500 on a gaming machine puts you in the top 10%.
Graphics aside, it's not like consoles can compete on game variety either. They basically have the same dumbed down open world action-RPG shit these days.
Everyone who wants out of that particular niche to play some better games has no choice but to go PC.
>Impying AMD still makes hardware that can compete in the 1000$+ range
yes a lot of them
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Could pirate be an increase in profit?
> Pirate that would never buy games in 1000 years
> Decides to pirate a game
> Likes it
> Spreads good word about it to other people
> Those people decide to buy the game.
Why do people act like piracy isn't a thing for consoles?
Absolutely, private servers are the sole reason WoW became what it was. If it wasn't the trial-like advertisement from the private servers that pretty much forced you to upgrade to retail to avoid the bugs, WoW would've peaked at 3-4mil at most
There is nothing wrong with Denuvo. As long as you connect to the internet once in a blue moon, it's literally invisible.
It's hilarious that Denuvo causes such a shitstorm when Steam is the real cancerous DRM on PC gaming.
If the only DRM on games was Denuvo, delivered through a CDN like GOG, without being encumbered by Steam then downloading and playing games would be significantly better.
Who the fuck spends $1500 on a PC? Nigga, I build my own and it only cost around $700. 16 gigs of ram, i7 4790K, and a GTX 970. Runs everything on the market at high/ultra.
>high end i7 and meme GPU
OP here; maybe coz it aint?
ps4 has no piracy, neither does x1
>inb4 some rare method involving flashing the console with 10 games for $100 in brazil
i remember the ps2 days where piracy was the norm
>>every week a new Denuvo game
>>every game worth playing has it
lmao no
Also, how long have developers been doing this Denuvo shit? Do they even have data that it correlates with an increase in sales? It's kind of fucking with the people that actually buy your games, but then again they tend to remove it once the game has been cracked
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Steam enforces no DRM by itself. It is entirely possible to release a game on Steam without any DRM.
nier and mass effect for example. constant denuvo games
>high end
Where the fuck did I say that? The only thing that matters at all in my statement is it runs everything at high/ultra. Yes, the hardware is dated, but they sure as hell aren't putting out titles these days that are pushing limits any more. Since everything is limited so much by console hardware, even a low/mid to mid range computer can max out the graphics.
none of them do even reach mediocre tier
>Where the fuck did I say that?
You didn't. I did. You bought a high end CPU when the GPU is much more important.
So far, Nier is the only Denuvo game that I'd consider playing.
The rest are either shit, forgettable sequels or downright mediocre.
I don't even buy games at launch anymore, I still don't pirate them either because my backlog is big enough, but the point is that charging 65 bucks for a digital download just because of Denuvo or other humble merchant excuse is retarded.
That depends entirely on the program. If you've ever played an MMO before, you'd know that statement is bullshit. MMOs are far more CPU heavy than they are GPU heavy. Quite a few titles also offload shader effects on to the CPU for some reason, like Starcraft 2, leaving the GPU to be less important than you'd think. Again, depends on the title and the competency of the team developing said title.
Statistics show there can be no reliable statistics on computer piracy because most of it can't be established anyway.
As a result, publishers make estimations, that they'll never be able to check, ever. So they're not right, but they'll never be wrong. Based on those bloated estimations, they assume they're "losing money", when they're at best losing consumers, and spend REAL MONEY on anti-piracy solutions like Denuvo which costs a small fortune. The consequence is, many people pirate games before buying them, and if they can't pirate them, they won't be buying them for sure. Anti-piracy measures cost a fortune and lower the sales. The initial sales of Denuvo games were low as fuck, and sales still struggle to pick up. Publishers fucking fail to even realize that pirates sometimes buy games too, just like some of their consumers sometimes pirate games too.
And then publishers keep making shittier and shittier games no one wants to buy, when a much better solution to piracy would, in fact, be to make ACTUALLY GOOD GAMES.
t. former Eidos exec. They'll never understand the market, and the whole thing now turned into a giant bait & switch strategy, which consists of spending largely more money on marketing than development, and hyping people to buy what is essentially a shitty, lackluster, underperforming game. It won't be long before all AAA games are 99% trailers and 1% actual game.
Denuvo is still relatively new though. Once people crack more games they'll learn how to crack new games faster and faster, right?
What makes Denuvo so hard to crack?
>t. former Eidos exec.
Why are you guys so based? Also, what the fuck happened to Eidos? I used to love the games you guys produced.
San Andreas multiplayer is a thing
And it can be pretty fun
denuvo is a cancer, and does nothing to combat piracy. it just pushes pirates to do more unethical things. just buy a key from a reseller on g2a and then chargeback, you keep your game, get your money back after 2 weeks and the dev eats a $200 chargeback fee.
This is assuming the key wasn't originally acquired with a stolen credit card. A lot of these key sites are only able to sell Steam keys for so cheap because they buy Steam keys from less than reputable sources in bulk, with the bulk of those keys originally being obtained via stolen credit cards.
> just buy a key from a reseller on g2a and then chargeback, you keep your game, get your money back after 2 weeks and the dev eats a $200 chargeback fee.
That all sounds pretty cool but then how come I've never heard of it. Something about it is probably messed up and won't work.
>pay $65 for each game
Nah fampai-kun.
The last vidya i payed shekels for was EVE and that was years ago before i got gud enough to plex, since then the only release even remotely worth spending shekels on was Nier and i'm still waiting for a crack to see how it runs on my rig first.
I can't imagine what it would be like to spend actual money on these dumpster fire releases year after year, not only are you buying literal garbage that you then have to slog through to justify the purchase, but you're also actively supporting the boomer scum in the (((industry))) who think its okay to shit out these broken dogshit games.
My ass
you get sales on the reg
you get gray market
you get steam market that gets you free money
this. the rest of the denuvo games that've came out have been absolute kusoge compared to those without.
i was always planning on buying nier on sale anyways, because it seems worth about 15 dollarydoos, but the rest of them aren't even worth a pirate.
Who cares, gaming is dying as a whole, and the sjw cancer that is happening is the major sign. Just look at Hollywood and all the garbage the pump out.
>Supporting PC games will ruin PC gaming.
PIRATE FAGS B T F O
SAY IT WITH ME HAHAHAHAH
So what you're saying is that publishers get their money and pirates get their game and everybody wins?
Denuvo only protects the first weeks of release. You are still getting Gaben jew sales at the end of the season.
i think the actual sentiment is "supporting bad practices will ruin pc gaming". avoid denuvoshit titles out of principle and they'll just stop.
>every game worth playing has it
I can't think of one.
Companies need to just follow-suit with developers like Rockstar. Release it on console and delay the PC version for a year, it maximises sales from consoles before receiving sales from PC. Avoids this bullshit protection software ruining games.
The problem is that Denuvo tanks performance. I bought nuDoom, JC3, Lara Croft, Shitman, NieR, and a lot of other games, but they have completely inexcusable performance issues.
JC3 took several seconds to render one frame... on dual 970s.
>Denuvo tanks performance
got any proof?
Except Social Club ruined GTA V anyway. It takes several minutes to connect to Online, and constant session splits and retarded lobbys system ensure that you'll be staring at loading screens A LOT. I don't play GTAO anymore simply because loading times are so long.
Tales of Berseria
Okay, but OP isn't talking about that. He's pretending Denuvo is permanent when you can still pirate/jew out games after its two week/one month protection expires.
>Everytime a new powerful DRM appears consolefags shit on PC
>Everytime DRM gets cracked and consolefags get BTFO
It's history.
Not him, but there's much more anticipation to play a game on release, same with movies. The majority of the audience want to play the game within release month, especially if it has a multiplayer aspect. If the game was cracked months down the line, even a year then interest in the game, even the online community would probably be dead by then.
I guess it's a different story for single player only games. You could easily wait. But still, the game wouldn't even be a talking point anymore.