>Replaying the Metroid Prime Trilogy >Realizing how well crafted everything was in these games. >Gameplay (in the Wii version), music, animations, lore, details, boss battles, even the cutscenes, they can be both subtle and hype as hell.
What happened? Why did Nintendo fuck its own franchise? I mean I get that it's not the heavy seller like Mario or Zelda, but come on. Even Prime 3, being as divisive as it is, had some spectacular bosses, lore, music and ideas.
I just want to play another Prime game of this quality on the Switch. The core concept of Federation Force was great as a spinoff, but it had so much against it that the game didn't have much for it.
>paid 80 bucks for a used copy of Trilogy from gamestop in 2014 >it goes on sale for download from the wii u eshop a year later I've never been FUCKING GAMESTOP'd so hard
Austin Martin
Nintendo only makes games for children now. BotW is unintentionally difficult, they'll patch it back to retarded easiness soon.
Cooper Anderson
>bought Trilogy on release despite being a 14 year old fuckhead
Asher Wilson
>If you look up at rain it will splatter on your helmet >Explosions close to you cause you to see your reflection >Beams have dynamic lighting Metroid Prime 1 had really good technology
Lucas Harris
At least you have the sick metal case.
Michael James
Quads speaks the truth
Wyatt Long
Did you know that, in Prime 3, you can interrupt Ridley's attacks by screwattacking him? He will move out of the way. It's really sick.
Julian Nelson
Don't forget the sick poster. I just dug it out of my closet recently and hung it up again.
Elijah Garcia
It's a good thing they removed the problematic videogamey stuff, like a working hardmode. Wouldn't want the children to be scarred for life with a game that actually has challenge.
Colton Diaz
>Prime 2's Varia suit. That's the best Varia suit.
Owen Rogers
I replayed Prime 1 for a bit for the first time in a very long while.
Still pretty good.
Daniel Peterson
post favorite suit
Josiah James
>Wanting me to decide from Prime 2's Varia Suit, Dark Suit, Light Suit, Phazon Suit and the first PED Suit. You can't make me decide.
Jack Cooper
Basically Retro Studios wanted to do something else. So they made some DKC games, which were again.. incredibly well crafted. Retro is just a really good development studio. Nintendo saw the talent they had and gave them the resources to realize it with franchises they thought deserved it and that Retro would want to make.
Now Retro has done so well with what they've made, that Nintendo is letting them make their own New IP game. Hasn't been announced yet.
Anthony Wood
Fingers crossed that it blows us away.
Jace Ramirez
not my favorite, but it was pretty cool to have in prime 1
Easton James
I honestly can't understand why people still love these games, I think they've aged horribly. It was incredible and revolutionary when the first one came out, but all you can possibly be playing them for now is atmosphere
Wyatt Evans
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Brayden Cook
The only thing Prime 3 had for it was some really good bosses. I replay these games every year and I'm always impressed by just how good Prime 1 is in everything it does. Prime 2 is good too, but it lacks the level design and all the hidden upgrades that 1 did so well. 3 Feels like an arcade shooter in comparison and I rarely manage to play through to the end without being bored.
Joseph Fisher
no
Colton Cooper
I don't know about that. It's been a while since the last DKC came out.
Liam Garcia
What do you feel has aged badly?
Ryan Stewart
Prime 1 > Prime 2 > Prime 3
100%'d the trilogy last year and it was really fun going back to the games. Prime 3 was the weakest by far but still decent.
Too bad I didn't play them with the right version of Dolphin that gets rid of the shader issue.
Andrew Torres
Corruption is fucking shit.
Samuel Jackson
>Good bosses. >Ignoring the top notch lore. >Ignoring the atmosphere of Bryyo and Elysia. >Ignoring the kick ass music. >Ignoring the characterization of Samus. >Ignoring the expanded Federation stuff which was healthy for the Metroid setting.
You make me weep.
Jose Foster
Honestly I didn't care for the wii-remote aiming in prime 3. In prime 1 and 2, the clunkiness of the the gamecube controller added to immersion, as Samus had to physically lift her arm to aim up.
Kevin Robinson
I think what was amazing is that they made a game with a female protagonist who wasn't just a slut who showed off her ass constantly. This is what made me throw away games like Bayonetta and Dragon's Crown. Just imagine how rare that is, a woman who actually has a personality beyond just "whore who strips for money".
Tyler Brooks
What are the differences between Prime 1 on GC and in the Trilogy edition?
I know that in the trilogy they removed the effect of you cannon freezing when you charge the iceshot.
Jordan Martin
I think they nerfed some bosses from the GC version in the re-release.
David Perry
-A handful of graphical effects are removed -Wiimote aiming -Waggle2jump morph ball -GC Normal difficulty = Wii Hard difficulty
David Jackson
You know what's even more immersing? Having precise controls that do whatever you want. That's the feel of the wiimote.
Asher Cox
Wasn't that Echoes?
Christian Harris
Power Suit
Cameron Baker
They just added an easy mode and hypermode is Hard difficult on the Wii.
Andrew Lee
Shame the Prime games are such fucking terrible METROID games though.
Adam Stewart
Why the fuck dont more console games have lock on for first person shooting?
It felt great.
Gabriel Ward
I know they did it for echoes, but I swear that there were one or two that were weakened in prime 1. Like Flaahgra the elite pirate take more damage or something
Cooper Smith
There's so much wrong with your post user. They tried dowing something new with the lore, but it really shows that they were running out of inspiration by this point. I can agree Elysia was comfy, but other than that there were basically only two memorable areas; the ice cave on Bryyo where you get the screw attack and when you return to the ship you start the game on. And the expanded federation prescence was the last nail in the coffin, ruined the atmosphere and loneliness the previous games had. Everything in Prime 1 was remarkable, from the way the scanners and puzzles felt realistic (unlike the movement based stuff they threw into prime 3 just because), to every area. Entering phenandra drifts, the pirate base, getting the thermal visor and navigating in the dark to that really off putting music is a 10/10 game experience.
I kind of disagree, as someone who played through a bunch of Metroid games for the first time recently (Super, Zero Mission, Fusion, Prime Trilogy) the Prime series still had that Metroid feel to me. If any game seems like a terrible Metroid it'd be Other M, didn't play it, but reading about it sounded like it barely had any connection to either the 2d or 3d games.
Yeah they feel more like zelda games. Not that that's a bad thing
William Stewart
The difficulty was toned down a bit. The games weren't design with motion controllers in mind either, and that also trivializes many enemies. I'd really have liked if they increased the difficulty instead.
Some graphical effects are removed, like the frosting over on the ice beam. They've also patched out 95% of the sequence breaking.
I played through the Prime series not that long ago, though just beat 3 recently a few months after beating the others, I still felt 3 was pretty damn good. It did lose a bit of atmosphere with the whole federation and bounty hunters, but overall it still felt like a Prime game, had some interesting locations, and was enjoyable to play. I'd still rate it the weakest out of the trilogy, but it was still a highly enjoyable game regardless
Xavier Rogers
The way Samus controls in Other M is taken directly from Fusion. I couldn't believe how much like 2D Metroid it felt. And I'm not just talking about the lack of 3D analog movement, the jump physics and ledge grabs are all spot on. It's too bad the game itself didn't hold up.
Jackson Rivera
If I ever saw shit taste in post form, this is it. Prime 3 is spectacular on its own ways.
James Reed
It all boils down to how much has their creativity and self direction improved over the years. Remember when Retro first started out they were a new startup company, they were making 3 Gamecube games. Miyamoto went to tour the studio and see how things were coming and was disappointed in everything except an action adventure tech demo, that when Miyamoto saw it, he saw the next Metroid game. So he gave them the license to make Metroid Prime and he produced it and supervised it to make sure it'd be up to his standards. He also cancelled all their other projects.
So.. we might see that Retro has grown and they can do something creative on their own, without direction and oversight...
Or we might learn that while Retro can do the technical stuff, they really need Nintendo's direction on WHAT to make.
You can look it up, they've been working on their next project since Tropical Freeze came out. They just haven't announced it yet, maybe this E3?
As for how long it's taking? Good games take some good time to develop. I wouldn't be worried about that, also lets remember that Initially they would have been developing for Wii U back in 2014. But in 2016 they would have moved over to developing for Switch instead, that'd cause a delay.
Carter Miller
Oh. I never played the Trilogy pack so yeah.
That's too bad though I guess they could made it harder to compensate for the easier controls at least like you said.
Ian Adams
normal is now easy, veteran is normal, and hypermode is hard mode.
Ryan Cook
Ok that's fucking amazing, Retro is full of genius.
Cameron Fisher
Hmm maybe there's more to it than I thought, still, just from the synopsis I read and everything I've heard about I'm not sure if I should even bother with it.
It is but it should have been the last Metroid game anyways.
Daniel Nguyen
>maybe this E3
I've been telling me that same thing for years and years in hopes of a new good Metroid.
Kevin Taylor
If you ever wanted to try it out, see if you can play or emulate the Japanese version if you can. The story is bad anime shlock, and the English version is like watching a mediocre English dub. It feels like they're reading the lines in English with a direct translation of the Japanese text which does not flow well in English dialogue at all. The Japanese version has Japanese voices with English text selected by default, and I find it more tolerable.
Owen Stewart
>a woman who actually has a personality Samus never had personality
I don't think it'll be a metroid though, it'll be a new IP. Metroid might be dead, and you can thank Sakamoto for that.
Caleb Gray
In terms of aggregate quality between all of the games on it, MPT might be the greatest compilation disc of all time.
Parker Jones
Prime Samus is fucking boring.
Every Samus is boring, the games are good in spite of her and not because of her.
Samus is just the spam in the can. The armor is the true star of the show.
Sebastian Reed
It's a good action-shooter, but it lacks all the traits that to me define a good metroid game.
>can't start a new game on anything harder than veteran >need to play through the game to get some decent difficulty >all your scans carry over, ruining half the enjoyment I love the Trilogy version and bought a wii solely to play it but I really hate some of the decisions they made.
Brandon Martinez
Fuckin Sakamoto. He deserves being shitposted online forever.
Joseph Scott
I don't think the difficulty was changed at all user, it's just easier with the better aiming controls.
They found the same thing with RE4, so they made the hard difficulty normal and halved ammo pickups to balance it and keep the experience they wanted.
Owen Hughes
Metroid games post Metroid II were subtle about her personality, which makes it great.
Charles Cox
Funny how all the original metroid games (not the prime series) would reward you with pictures akin to striptease for fast runs.
She has a videogame character personality, that's what I referred to. Before everyone wanted to make her "deep" and "emotional" she did whatever was necessary for the game to progress. She didn't need drama shoved in everywhere. Compare that to garbage like Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy, where every woman had to cry for at least 10 minutes, every 10 minutes.
This is why the first Prime game is the best.
Jaxon Ramirez
POST YOUR FAVORITE: metroid game beam suit area boss music non-beam upgrade
Kayden Ortiz
>play prime >enjoy game >get near end >have to find all the hidden artifacts
Stopped playing right there. Ruined the pacing.
Adrian Miller
>a thumbs up is subtle personality She has no personality everyone fucking does that just about when they approve of something. She is a blank slate and never the focus of her games. She was always gameplay and no personality which is why her games didn't suck until fusion
>Samus slumping over after her life support fails and she flatlines
Luis Powell
For someone who the backtracking in MP1 was a deal breaker, would 2/3 potentially interest me? Was the backtracking better or worse?
Juan Perry
That's a good personality though. I never said it was deep, just that it was good.
if you want your female characters to cry and have emotional episodes every 5 minutes, then titles like Gone Home would be a better "game" for you to enjoy.
Anthony Campbell
Federation Force just came out.
Owen Bell
>What happened? Why did Nintendo fuck its own franchise? They kept trying to focus on the woman inside the suit instead of making a game based on gameplay. Why they didn't build on Fusion personification of Samus is beyond. Fusion was a perfect example of how to give Samus humanity without sacrificing who she is as a character. No asked for "dire situations" (Zero Mission) or "knowing what kind of person she really is" (Other M).
Ayden Rogers
>Super >Annihilator >Ped / Dark suit with all of the upgrades >Torvus bog >Quadraxis >Prime menu theme >Super missle
Joseph Jenkins
The endgame backtracking issue is there in 2 as well. 3's is..okay. At least getting into the endgame area only really requires a certain amount of keys to get into. You don't even have to find them all. Hell you can even find some of them naturally.
Henry Sanchez
*is beyond me
David Cruz
Remember feeling like this when playing blind. When you've replayed to the point where you know where all of them are it actually feels really well paced to go get them when you're in the area. You should have all of them before you go fight the Omega Pirate.
The backtracking in Prime 2 is arguably worse. And there is the power cell hunt in Prime 3 but that's entirely optional iirc.
Benjamin Nguyen
I've heard people complain about 2's backtracking but personally I didn't see an issue. Certain areas are locked away until you have the final suit and beam, and its fun to destroy groups of ing with a single shot
Chase Murphy
Do the Prime games emulate well yet? I have an i5 6600k and 1060 6GB so I'm kinda hoping it runs well
Jaxon James
>In Prime 3 where she becomes a second Dark Samus
Eli Jones
>Game Prime 1. Seeing those kind of locations in 3D is great. Immersion out of the whazzoo. Motion controls made it better. >beam Phase beam. I like the green. >Suit The Varia Suit >Area Space Pirate Research Lab in Phendrana. >boss Rogue Security Robot >Music youtube.com/watch?v=Pim1s_DBR64 >Non Beam Upgrade Grapple Beam
Gabriel Morales
Prime 3 had severe loading issues, the gameplay was shit, the level design was shit. 2 was fucking terrible and just annoying all around. 1 was the best of the lot but still shoddy as fuck. All of them were awful as fuck in trying to bring Metroid to 3D.
Kayden Sullivan
>That first encounter with Ridley in Prime 3 The hypest shit, I loved that.
Carter Clark
prime 1 or 2 annihilator phazon or light can't come to a fragment of a decision quadraxis tallon overworld 2 thermal visor
you can tell i can't decide on my favorite anything when it comes to metroid
Prime 2 Touch choice, but I'll go with the plasma beam of Prime 1 Light Suit Sanctuary Fortress The Metroid series has way too many bosses, those on Super, Fusion and the Prime series? I cannot pick one Same with the music The Screw Attack
Logan Wood
W H E N
Cooper Campbell
Except you forget other subtle animations in the Prime games, like after beating Thardus (where a rock hits her on the head and you actually see her look back for a second) It's clever ways of showing that she's not just this blank slate bounty hunter
Jonathan Morales
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Charles Flores
>yfw ridley screams
Austin Stewart
I'd get that, and I don't care about what any of you autistic faggots say either, I'd also get the Other M one, it's a nice figure.
prime 3 Judicator from prime hunters the repaired suit from after the atack elisia because of >music Quadraxis from MP2 youtube.com/watch?v=I-tENhSkhOE hyper misile
