Xbox Scorpio

I mean, unless it's sold for $299, what chance does it have of saving Xbox from getting outsold 2:1 for the next 4 years?

None.

hardware means nothing without games. It won't sell.

I mean, I don't think MSFT thinks this will become the dominant console for the 8th generation (whatever that means). It's probably more a part of their strategy to merge Xbox and PC gaming.

It is funny to see them coming out with badass new hardware while cancelling games.

It seems like a good deal to me and Japanese exclusives don't seem like they are very popular with the majority of gamers. The PS4 specs is what gave it the edge it needed in the beginning and I don't see how it will be any different now and for most people mainstream multiplats and dudebro exclusives are what most people buy. So a system that can run those better than any other console and a lot of PC will big a big hit.

My guess that they'll drop the price of xbone to 150 bucks when Scorpio arrived. That way they could grab both early adopters and cheapo gamers since both console shared the same game library.

And my wildest speculation is that Scorpio will be released along with Minecraft 2.

This comparison chart is shit because it's looking at false numbers. Even those "2 Kaby Lake Cores" will blow out any single console without issue.

Also the cores and RAM are shared with the Console OS, so it's much lower.

>teraflops
Literally who uses this shit?

Also the Kaby Lake i5 or i7 is only half the equation.

The 1070 itself will have its own processor and dedicated video RAM.

Even if this shit sells "well", sony still have marketing rights for RDR2 and Battlefront 2, and in a few months after scorpio's launch they will release spiderman and gow and those will sell gorillions.

There is virtually 0 chance of it to be successful. PS4 is simply too successful.

>The most powerfull console
>Hey lets release all of our exclusives on the most powerfull platform what could go wrong
They really shot themselfs in the foot by releaseing all their games on PC too. There is just no point to own a Xbone if you got a PC.

This, they played themselves hard.

Good thing most console owners don't own a gaming PC.

If they can migrate Xbox users over to games for Windows that's probably a win for them.

Can someone give me a quick rundown on this? What is it? Just a more powerful Xbox?

PS4 kept selling record numbers when it came out and all that shit had was Knack and Octodad.

Xbox One Pro

More powerful than the PSPro but still built to run this generation of game engines.

So if you want 4K versions of games you played 4 or 5 years ago, this might be for you.

>hardware means nothing without games. It won't sell.
Implying normies wont go for the best looking multiplats which is the REAL systems sellers despite the hardcore shills and spergs who insist its exclusives.

Whoever made this chart understands nothing about computing.

80 million households already hardware that will play nearly 100% of the games that Scorp plays.

It's an uphill battle.

It's also a shit comparison because Scorpio optimization is in a league of its own

>Microsoft told Digital Foundry's Richard Leadbetter that Project Scorpio's DirectX 12 hardware implementation should cut CPU workloads by half on DirectX 12 games. "Roll call instructions on the CPU that would typically require thousands of instructions are now reduced to just 11," Leadbetter said in DF's exclusive Scorpio reveal. "State changes that are also heavy on CPU are now cut down to just 9. Microsoft tells me that this custom hardware automation should cut CPU workload by half on titles built on DirectX 12 renderers."

that's because xbone blew itself up so hard everyone already knew what console to buy, even before the promised exclusives started to drop.

Never said it was going to be a lightning in the bottle type,but it will sell well despite the ''no games'' rhetoric. Especially when it will be the default best looking version of any multiplat that inst on PC.

>The system constantly re-allocates free resources such as system RAM, various GPU features and CPU processes into the system's Scorpio Engine to boost in-game performance. With Scorpio's flexible software pipeline and myriad of UWP-powered tools, developers can use the console's free resources to help maintain native 4K resolution, consistent frame rates, and even use extra RAM as an IO cache to speed up loading times.

Ugh. The console Teraflops are compared incorrectly against the PC teraflops.

So the console teraflops are TOTAL cpu+gpu teraflops in this chart. The PCs are only showing the GPU teraflops, not the gpu+cpu. The Kaby Lake alone is another taraflop.

This what confuses me, I'm almost certain that MS is hiding something just for next E3. Just like when they made the surprise announcement of Scorpio out of nowhere.

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PCbros, Sonybros and Nintenbros are so afraid right now.

No normies will get the system all there friends already have

Holy shit, more memory bandwidth and GDDR5 than a high end gaming PC, plus more CPU's. The only thing the gaming PC beats it in is GPU megahurtz and raw terraflops, but that's only because a computer video card can run much hotter, and with optimization (which we know microsoft is the king of) they'll easily be able to beat a gaming PC terraflop for terraflop.
The Scorpio is so much more advanced than I ever expected it could be.

>PCbros
But we are getting the same games as you do.

What if anything could help them shift the momentum in their favor?

>2:1

This doesn't mean anything at all, i wish people would stop memeing this.

Just look how many ps4s where sold then look at the sales of any game on that platform and you'll realize why it doesn't mean shit.

you selling 10 million more consoles doesn't mean shit if 9 million of those people are normies who just watch netflix and don't play any games.

So when one upgrades to native 4k Scorpio (because it's the best option now) the rest will follow?

how much would a comparable pre-built PC cost?

One you assembled yourself?

>Memory bandwidth
Lmfao, nice bait

How the fuck do you people still eat this shit up after "the cloud", "the creators of directx", "dx12", etc etc.

You poor naive fools.

>those sales number don't matter, but these do

> developers can
lol, how many developers will use those features on cross platform titles?
None

US sales

>PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 17,882,939

>Xbox One Total Sales: 16,080,375


EU Sales

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 15,925,597

Xbox One Total Sales: 5,474,115
Basically if you're in America, No there aren't 2 ps4's for every xbox one.

Best selling X1 exclusive got outsold by PS3 exclusive remasters on PS4.
Most multiplats sell twice the ammount on PS4
Best selling ps4 exclusive outsold all x1 retail exclusives combined
> doesnt mean shit.

>More powerful than PS4 Pro
>60Hz at 4K
>Can actually play games in true 4K
>More powerful than a PC with a GTX 1070
>60Hz at 4K
>Makes to sense to get one if you have a 4K TV
>60Hz at 4K
>Makes sense to buy one if you're unhappy with the performance of the vanilla Xbox One
>60Hz at 4K
>Can play VR without needing an expensive PC
>60Hz at 4K
>PCbros will never make fun of you for owning under-powered hard ever again
>Best NepNep girl is based on it
>Superior hardware to any console available

Don't even think twice. Just get one. You won't have any regrets and you'll be at the pinnacle of cutting edge. You'll be able to brag to friends/co-workers about how your Xbox outputs more frames at 4K compared to their crappy PS4 Pros. Also, Microsoft sold more units than Sony.

>jap girl in xbone attire

shamefuru disrray

It's a ybox 420 nerd

>Can play VR without needing an expensive PC
Did Scorpio jumped on the VR bandwagon as well? I thought they learnt their lesson not to supporting useless peripherals with Kinect2.

If you think most games will be running at 60fps you're a moron. It'll be the exact same shit as it is now. 30fps games will still be 30fps at 4K, possibly with less framedrops.

You're also a moron if you think everything will be native 4k.

>Autist gives a random number and claims that unless something is that number it will be shit
Wew

You should really look up things you say before making an ass of yourself spreading false information.

>PCbros will never make fun of you for owning under-powered hard ever again

>More powerful than PS4 Pro
Also more expensive
>60Hz at 4K
On select, native titles
>Can actually play games in true 4K
Again, on select titles
>More powerful than a PC with a GTX 1070
No, it's closer to a 970
>Can play VR without needing an expensive PC
You can do that with PS-VR for cheaper
>PCbros will never make fun of you for owning under-powered hard ever again
I still will, and I'll make fun of you for not understanding PC hardware and for thinking you're getting a good deal.
>Superior hardware to any console available
Steam Machine? Sure steam machines suck, but they have better hardware.

I did. You didn't obviously. Even the guys at DF that did the reveal (sponsored by MS themselves) say as much.

And all you have to do is look at the specs and have a bit a common sense.

Can you show me where they said that? I remember it running Forza at 4k 60fps and still had almost half its power to spare. Microshaft ultimately left it up to the devs how to use the power. so I guess you're right in that sense. Definitely not because it doesn't have the power to though.

Anyone else here very skeptical of DF about Scorpio?

It sold more because it was 100 dollars cheaper and could do 1080p more often. That was the only reason.

DF isn't even shilling it 100%

They talk a lot about possibilities and maybes. At the end of the day they didn't get their hands on a test unit to do their pixel count testing, comparisons with the pro and pc and all that other stuff.

They were however happy that they got the exclusive on the reveal so they sung it as many praises as they could. It's still 8 months off at the end of the day

Have they ever been wrong in the past? When I heard that they claim that FH3 ran at 4K ultra settings at 60fps just drives me insane.

Wichard said that he was shown the Turn 10 tech demo where they ported Forza 6 in 2 days and were getting 4K locked 60 with only 66% of the system resources being used before optimisation, so he was willing to give MS a good bit more benefit than he did Sony's Pro reveal because they were more open with it and he was seeing it live compared to the Pro where they didn't get anything substantial till they got the actual unit and Sony wasn't very willing to talk internals outside of a Cerny interview where Cerny wasn't really giving much up either. They didn't really get a lot till their review units were given to them.

Not really. Every fanboy accuses them of bias at one stage but most of their analysis has been spot on and they do take revisits into account if they spot something odd. They went and looked at Zelda again because they noticed the Dynamic Rez.
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>Brand Loyalty to the most anti consumer company in gaming right now.

man you guys are Cancer.

>"Brand Loyalty to the most anti consumer company in gaming right now."

It's not about console wars for xbox anymore. They are just focusing on building an infastructure than can be used across multiple gens. They are looking beyond xbone and ps4. For example their commitment to the backwards compatibility program is a good indiactor of this. That's not just for xbox one. That's for all xboxs in the future. They are building xbox as the ultimate gaming OS

They can put out whatever system they want but what fucking GAMES does it have?

By being the new hot thing, at least in the US.

Honestly, selling 2:1 to the PS4 isn't even that bad, and they still profit a lot from montly fees and software. I think if anything it's Sony the one who has to step their game up because Nintendo is taking Japan back.

These numbers look horrible for Europe. It's a continent with 700 million people living in it yet it gets beaten by a country with only 300m.

When did I ever mention Sony ?

Microsoft as a whole wants nothing more then to fuck its consumers in the ass and as a whole have fucked gaming incredibly.

>standardized Paid online
>standardized Nickel and Diming DLC's
>popularized gaming to the dudebro audience and "Hardcore" gamers.
>Console with a high failure rate is okay.
>Does shit things to fanbases that honestly want a good game.
>Suits are always looking for ways to strangle your ass for more cash and are super fucking vocal about it hiding it behind clever marketing tricks that most people dont fucking see.
>Games for windows live
>Newest OS is a locked down piece of shit that
monitors what you do.

Microsoft is cancer. and no amount of MUH Sony deflection will change that.

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Even if the Scorpio is as low as $500 (absolute lowest it can be sold), its still will only scrap out a niche.

PS4 is now as PS2 prices back in the day, all everybody with friends has one, leaving the other consoles to find specific niches.

Even if Scorpio is a powerhouse, it still only hits for small niche of people loyal to Xbox (which all apparently jumped ship to the PS4 as the designated "bro console" and people who want horsepower but are too stupid to just buy/build a PC.

And on top of that, they are doing this without any exclusives whatsover.

Criticize Nintendo for all kinds of shit, but they made sure Zelda launched with their console. Xbox has actively cancelled more games than they've announced in the past few years.

So yeah, its dumb

>xbone has no games

>installing windows 10

one of these memes has to go, Sup Forums

>high-end

>3ghz
>8gb ram
fucking pick one

the ps4 had exclusives in the pipeline. scorpio does not. pretty simple