This game was ok

This game was ok.

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It was good.

I think it's the best out of all 3. Sadly I haven't played Demon's Souls. Fuck whoever thought a souls game should be limited to a console.

Still better than Demon's Souls and Dark Souls III.

it was terrible. I played it for literally 20 minutes and dropped it. It's not a Souls game as far as I'm concerned

In some ways, but its too clunky my man

>Dark Souls 2
>not a Souls game

By dark souls standards it was the worst in the series. With that said it's still a step above the majority of games released in the last several years.

and to be people about to ask me "why?", das2 has better a covenants, better pvp, it has real poise (some people in Sup Forums threads and steam forum threads literally have to ask what is das1 and das2 poise is like. I've seen it happen. It's sad and pathetic), better weapon variety, better magic (and by magic I also mean miracles, hexes/dark magic, and pyromancy), and better armor sets (quite a few made it dark souls 3 but not some of the best, like the Ironclad Set and the Jester Set. Both negating lagstab fishers).

>Hidetaka Miyazaki, who served as director on the two earlier games in the series, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls,[10] acted as a supervisor, while the game was directed by Tomohiro Shibuya and Yui Tanimura.[10]

you're a fucking retard then. please don't reproduce.

>Turret Tracking
>Heat Seeking Projectiles
>Broken Hit Boxes
>Plain Environment Textures
>Rehashing DS1 bosses
>No Kick
>Soul Memory
>Agility & Adaptability
>Shitty World Design
>Crystal Lizards Are Super Annoying
>Shit Story

>he's a pvp player

lmao all souls pvp is trash.

>Better than demons souls

6/10 for making me respond.

If the entire game was just latria it'd still be better than ds2

>>Rehashing DS1 bosses
HAHAHAHA you fucking absolute idiot. Dark souls 3 just copied a bunch and through em in for lore. Thats fine but dont talk shit about das2 when at least they were creative with bosses.

hardly, i just like invading from time to time. I prefer PVE but dark souls 2 easily has the best pvp.

>better pvp

Soul memory.

Yep it was just OK. The most mediocre of the games

BUUUUUT at least it had original stuff, unlike DS3. DS3 used waaaay too much shit from the first game. Really wasted the opportunity for original armors and civilizations desu

>all arguments are about pvp
>nuh I like pve

Not fooling anyone shitter.

threw em in*

you can get PS3 new for $199 and even cheaper used
there's a good amount of exclusives out there to make it work your while
Demon's Souls is fantastic I was playing it the other day and think it holds up perfectly fine even after being spoiled with DaS3 on PC at 60 FPS

>Dark souls 3 just copied a bunch and through em in for lore.

Which bosses are copy-pasted in DS3?

It had fun glitches

hey retard, when I say better pvp I mean better fighting, I did not say better matchmaking/pvp game mechanics.

you must be joking. I'm not going to give you a legit answer.

>this suddenly makes it not a souls game

Miyazaki is the creative genius behind Soulsborne... DS2 wasn't under his jurisdiction/he wasn't as active in the process and it shows.

>I have no arguments: the post

Also, half of all bosses being humanoids isn't creative in the least. Get fucked, cuck.

Rat Authority = Re-Skinned Sif

Old Dragonslayer = Re-Skinned Ornstein

Belfry Gargoyles = Re-Skinned Bell Gargoyles

>You were saying? Phaggot!

>Rat Authority = Re-Skinned Sif
did you forget the five toxic rats that gank you before the real boss even wakes up?

Wow those 3 examples sure showed me. Fucking retard. No matter what you say dark souls will always be the best souls games.

dark souls 2***

>Old Dragonslayer
Reskin is being generous

>When make something new when you can just ad some trash ads and dipshits won't notice the difference?

DS2 design in a nutshell

>I'm not going to give you a legit answer.

You can't, is what you mean.

There is exactly one boss that's "copy-paste," which is the stray demon, and he's an optional side-boss. Every other boss is new.

As someone who thinks all the Soul games are overhyped trash, DS2 had some good variety in PVP. I put more time into this one because various builds WORKED. I had 7+ characters all with different magic builds, weapon builds, etc.

It's just unfortunate that the PVE combat in these games are just R1 spam.

i feel the same way, I thought it was good game, definitely a dark souls game but I don't really have any desire to replay it anytime soon

Demon's Souls is unique and always a good time and I buzz through it fairly quick now that I have all the weapons from the get go post NG
Dark Souls is a classic and always fun to make return trip to Lordran and see some familiar faces
Dark Souls III is a good game and have only played through it once but I have a much stronger desire to respec my character and replay it because it is still unfamiliar and it has that current gen polish to it and runs like a dream on my computer
but Dark Souls II, while I did enjoy it the first go around, I eventually got kind of tired of it and just wanted it to be over. Nothing really sticks out for me as something that I'm chomping at the bit to return to
Bloodborne was fantastic, I've played through it once and plan on getting the platinum which would be 2nd platinum trophy ever for me, the first being Demon's Souls

Hey, they made his lightning purple.

$199 is a lot of allowance for a Sup Forumsirgin to siphon off of his dorito budget

BB=DaS>DaSII>DaSIII
In terms of content, Dark Souls II feels like a much larger game than Dark souls 3 and to a lesser extent Dark souls I, but it's marred by the fact that A: the level design feels much much less grandiose and organic than dark souls I, B: The lighting/graphics make you feel like you're playing the game with your eyes perpetually strained (WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO BRIGHT AND GREEN ALL THE TIME) and C: The game as a whole feels more sluggish and floaty during combat, especially with rolling. However, in terms of sheer content the game feels the strongest of all of three dark souls games, all the categories of weapons were filled to the brim with interesting weapons, there was a wide diversity of spells (dead again, forbidden sun, etc) and the enemy design was probably the best out of all three of the games.

I'm still trying to figure out the bullshit behind that elevator in the windmill that goes UP to Bowser's LavaLand.

>enemy design was probably the best out of all three of the games.

Really? What enemies did you think were particularly good in 2?

sometimes I feel bad for some poorfags here and entertained the idea of buying someone something that they really wanted but just couldnt afford
I was about to this one time but then I realized he was an underage BR so I decided not to

It goes through space horizontally as well, due to the cursed ones cursed

If you read the item description from the ancient dragon it says something like "the undead that plauge his land don't have to obey the laws of physics"

Vaati pls don't steal my analysis.

kys you are just a mindless shitter that tries to fit in ds2 is literally the best dark souls

here is a list why ds2 is the best ds game


Bonfire Acetics
Stopping Enemies from Respawning
Pharros Lockstones
Petrified Statutes/Fragrant Branch of Yore
A Lot more Areas and Bosses
Much Better and More Useful Covenants
Deeper Lore and Story
Linearity. DS3 basically had you going on one set path the whole time, DS2 had at least 2-3 different paths at any given time.
Magic Being Way More Balanced and Useful
rolls
Left hand weapon with full moves.
Stamina
Poise
Cooldowns
Animation cancelling
Backstep
Weapon variety
Armour variety with distinct effects
Viable dragon form
All kind of builds viable at any point
Dual wielding
Poison builds
Blue Eye Orb
Better bosses

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Okay, at least now I know this is a joke.

man of good taste
also pvp was much much MUCH more lively in DaSll
and being a pvp loving faggot i am i just cant play DaSlll because it's so boring

Well it's a better explanation than none. I'll take it. I mean... We ARE talking about a series where people zombify and eventually become trees.

His armor isn't as shiny........

Maybe you should proof read your shit before posting frantically in an autistic rage.

>interesting weapons
Is this a meme?

Almost everything feels the same with maybe 1-2 slightly unique weapons in a class (and most of the time it's not even and actual interesting moveset, it's that it also casts a buff/gimmick spell/is just a catalyst that can also light attack)

Bloodborne has the best weapon variety, less weapons overall, but almost every single one is it's own class.

Of the Dark Souls games, 3 has the best weapon variety by far (especially with the DLC which smokes the variety in the other 2 games almost by itself)

Don't forget:

>LOL death counter, look how many deaths.....this game is SOOOO HARDCORE

...

hey guys
remember when you could make a bullshit build and it would actually be able to kill people?
good times

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Salamander enemies, The Suspicious Shadows, Flexile Sentry, Smelter Demon, Alonne knights for being too fucking fast, Rasta-Axe Niggas, Mauldron, Shadows in the woods, the midget inquisitors, Porcupine-Sonic-Ice assholes, Crystal deer niggas, etc etc etc. Compare that to the enemies in DaS I and III.

Learn to greentext properly please, I mean this sincerely.

DS2's gameplay was probably the best of the series, but the bosses were pretty shit in general

DS3 is easily the most beautiful and consistent in design of the series, it's my favourite just because it's like exploring a Zdzislaw Beksinski painting
I particularly love how the whole world looks like it's disintegrating and being pulled towards the Kiln like a slow-motion black hole
my favourite aspect of the series has always been that you're wandering around a dead, decaying world in a collapsing reality

I'd rank them DS3 > DeS > DS1 > DS2 because I'm a sucker for world-building, DS2 fell flattest on that aspect

That's the meme of this entire series you shitter

LOOK HOW HARD THIS GAME IS WOOW

look at how many times you're gonna die FINALLY A HARD GAME FOR GAMERS

Lets not put any thought into the combat or mechanics and just focus on making video games "difficult" because people will fucking eat that shit up

Man check out how hard this game is. I beat it too so I'm pretty good at video games now.

I will never not associate this image from a filename thread as >/vg/

i wish areas in dark souls 3 were spookier/more fucked up.

>there
is no way
>to greentext
Properly

Queer
>Phaggot

On my tenth play through

It's the most unique entry in the series and it's my favorite game ever, it's what I imagine a modern NES Castlevania game would be like

I ask you both, have you played Bloodborne?
I think it might be what you are looking for

he's a pretty good artist to say the least

Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 were never intended to be hard for the sake of being hard, they were paying homage to classic games that actually challenged the player.

Dark Souls 2 played into the idiot fans of "OMG so hard, much difficulty, many deaths LOL". Dark Souls 2 also has the most unfair bullshit and artificial difficulty in the series.

Everyone on that list except for smelter and maybe Mauldron (because he acts like a bitch, not because actually fighting him is interesting) are total shit.

Holy fuck, you actually listed Alonne knights, that's hilarious. Their AI is atrocious, they just walk up to get stunlocked, or if you can't stunlock them, roll right through their 1 attack that they do every time for a backstab. In fact, that's pretty much 90% of enemies in DS2 because it was designed around fighting groups of retards so nothing on it's own is actually interesting.

>genius
>puts 2 swamps in the final piece of souls content

Nice counter arguments, faggots. Go plop Miyazaki's cock in your mouth because he can manage 2/3rds of a good game.

Shitting yourself is not ok, op

Yeah it was fantastic

But it doesn't have that beautiful trainwreck feel that DS2 does, something about it is absolutely perfect even though it feels like a mess, it's difficult to articulate what I enjoy about it so much, it just feels like its own genre of game

>climbing windmill tower surround by mountains
>take elevator further up
>now surrounded by a sea of lava
defend this DaS2fags

>go through said ruins many years after
>take a huge drop
>now surrounded by a sea of dried lava

defend this DaS3fags

It's a cargo cult Souls game.
All the "Souls stuff" is there, but it's not cohesive.
It's an action-adventure game with Souls assets. It feels a lot like a fan mod or something, it's honestly quite endearing.

I don't dislike DS2, but "B-Team" undeniably fucked up. They didn't understand what hardcore fans enjoyed so much about the series.

Dark Souls 2 sucks compared to the other games in the series, but it is still better than 90% of all other games.

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I'm not going to defend the level design/enemy placement of Dark Souls II, that's one of if not it's greatest flaw, but in terms of creative enemy design I still stand by Dark Souls II as having the most varied and interesting enemies in the series, about the only interesting designs in Dark Souls I are the Titanite Demons, the Gargoyles, the Moonlight butterfly, and maybe the abyss-enemies. Dark Souls III it's the same shit, a lot of generic knights of various sizes, a shitload of enemies in armor and not a whole lot else. And the worst part about Dark Souls 3 is that none of the enemies are particularly fun to fight against and usually rely upon some bullshit gimmick like the Jailors and the Serpent Men who can snipe you through walls for some reason.

It's a volcano you dummy

the tunnels and elevators between zones cover a much bigger distance than what is shown ingame
It made the world bigger

what is there to defend? dreg heap was a cool zone with lore explaining why shit from all over the place is smashed together.

earthen peak is literally submerged underneath a sea of lava.

wasn't too bad, not nearly as shit as everyone says at least
but still the worst in the series by a decent margin

>DS2's gameplay was probably the best of the series
the concepts were great but the execution was horrid

I think it's built more like an old school action adventure game with a level based structure that doesn't adhere to any logical format, yet at the same time isn't completely linear, which shouldn't work at all but it does in an odd way, this actually applies to most aspects of the game actually; things that shouldn't work but somehow do

I hate all kinds of stuff for the most petty, insignificant reasons, but DS2 manages to make me not care about the flaws as they (to me anyway) end up contributing to the overall package in an impossibly positive way

Like I mentioned, I'm on my tenth play through and I don't play games more than once or maybe twice on the hardest difficulty if there is one

>DS3 > DeS > DS1 > DS2
my nigga, but I'd slide Bloodborne in after DS1

Bloodborne is #1 in the series for me, I just didn't list it

This was the Souls game that I was introduced to by friends who wouldn't stop chanting about the difficulty. It wasn't particularly hard at all and I quickly realized the game is all about trial and error.

However, the worst part of DS2 comes from the part where you're told to kill 4 bosses to advance. The road to the final boss/castle is blocked by waist high RUBBLE that you could just climb over. But no, go gather the souls of 4 fuckers instead. B-Team didn't really think things through did they?

Do you remember DS3 at all?

>Cage Spiders
>Pus of Man
>Irythyll Beasts
>Pilgrim Butterflies
>Tree Women
>Skeleton Balls
>Crystal Lizards
>Lycanthropes
>the Sandworm
>Corvian Storytellers
>Sewer Centipedes
>Monstrosities of Sin
>Outrider Knights
>Evangelists

Please feel free to explain to me how none of these are interesting or unique.

All they had to do was put the soul-gate in place of the rubble. It would have been so easy.

I still think its a fantastic game, however I put it so low because the others are just as fantastic but in my experience have much more build variety and replayability

as I said, I'm a sucker for world-building and tight design

makes sense, they probably knew they only had one game for that so they went all out

Define creative, please

>This game was ok.

>recieves examples proving him wrong
>doesnt accept it
>calls him a retard for being right

ADP
D
P

Please

Bloodborne was alright but I hate the level design. The shortcuts are fucking constant and super predictable and it totally kills the immersion and all of the surprise and joy of finding them.

that didn't even register for me, I was too busy having a massive Lovecraft boner the entire time

I'm not saying DS3 has no enemy variety, the issue is that there are too many copy and pasted enemies within it, how many times do you remember fighting the cathedral knights? How many times did you fight the Thralls? How many times did you fight the Lothric Knights? At least with DS2 there were, for the most part, new enemies in each new area rather than having the same fucking enemies copy and pasted over half the goddamn game, not to mention the fact that apart from the ones you listed and even including the cage spiders, the lycanthropes, the corvian storytellers and the evangelists a lot of the enemies are just some undead chucklefuck with a weapon, the Jailors, the knights, the wax-sorcerers, basically everything in Irithyll, the skeletons in the crypts, plus all of the re-hashed enemies from DSI and 2.

Haha, yeah, well, you know what, faggot? That's a valid criticism and I respect it.

no it's not. I refuse to play it because it is responsible for ruining dark souls 3 but inspiring miyazaki to bring a bloodborne style of fighting to dark souls 3 and get rid of poise. I want bloodborne tier spookiness but without it looking and being like bloodborne.

by inspiring*

I agree with some of this, but the Fragrant Branch of Yore? Fuck that. It would be okay if you could just buy the fucking things, but aside from one or two you can't.