and why is it Berseria
Which is best?
Persona 5 > FFXV >Talesshit
Automata>all of these kusoge
p5 is just p4
FFXV was a somehow rushed piece of shit despite spending 10 years on it
Bersy has a good cast, good story, and good combat, and tries something different form past entries.
why do all these characters have the same fucking hair
Yup.
fpbp
decent attempt at creating a Nier thread
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Objectively P5.
Fpbp
P5>Berseria>FFXV
Final Fantasy XV is a terrible mess of a game which just shows how far the FF name has fallen.
Majima>>>>>all those other shitty MC's OP posted
>removes normal attacks so it becomes artes spam
>good combat
Doesn't even sound like a Tales game. Huh, might have potential then.
P5 is the only good one
Berseria is generic and mediocre but still better than the shitshow that was FFXV
>P5 is the only good one
>self insert blank state mc
>good
Also XV has better dungeons than both those games
level design is shit and running from point a to b is incredibly fucking boring like other tales
>Majima>>>>>all those other shitty MC's OP posted
He's comparing RPGs though user.
Yakuza has no place in the conversation
>Generic and mediocre
care to go in depth autistic child?
>gay faggot MC
>good
It might have decent caves, but the game as a whole is much worse than P5, can't comment on the Tales game as I haven't played it.
as far as JRPGs go it could be classified as one
>sphere grid
>random encounters
>weapons armor and accessories you can upgrade
P5 > Bearsia >>>>>>>>>> Nep V-II >> XV
>Also XV has better dungeons than both those games
XV's "dungeons" were just linear crap or the abortion known as Chapter 13
All terrible, I would unironically play a neptunia game instead.
Fbpb as always
Joker>Velvet>>>>>>>Noctis
trash the lot of them
>Berseroa
>good
the combat was worst in the series
the story is edgy shit.
the first half of the story was ok because its self-aware
the second half is pure shit that tried to inject gray morality but failed to fresh out villains
Magilou is literally only good thing came out of that thing
P5 is trash. Almost every scene is presented with the same static camera angle, the dialogue is uninteresting and not tonally consistent, every coop story ends up feeling like the same shit since they're almost all solved in the same way, the villains are ridiculously cartoonish and generic, they overexplain the scheme the protagonist used to evade Akechi's attempt to murder him despite it being retarded, and Ryuuji is is an incredibly bad character whose only purpose in the narrative is to spark up conflict when the writers can't think of any better way.
Berseria is the best JRPG of recent years.
FFXV is one of the worst games ever made.
I disagree with everything except the last line.
I understand that P5 is still in the honeymoon period for a lot of you EOPs. It just isn't very good.
Why do Tales games insist on having such shitty, bland, boring overworld maps and then making you spend so much time on them? Who still likes this?
Oh right, japs. Gotta keep that shitty DQ style overworld meme going so they don't have to be confronted with something different.
Gameplay: P5 > Berseria = FFXV
Story: P5 = Berseria > FFXV
Characters: Berseria > P5 > FFXV
So really, XV is the worst when it comes down to it. Not that it helps that P5 is exclusive and thus will get shilled as though it's the best in every way.
Vesperia world map was fine, great even. The bland fields with reused assets shit didn't start until Xillia because the team was scaled down significantly for financial reasons and they insisted on trying to become more 'modern'.
Berseria is almost Integrity and Faithlessness tier.
P5 is great all around and easily the best, Berseria is a step in the right direction for the series and has one of the better stories in the series but still has shitty level design and the combat is lacking this time, didn't play XV
Only reason I would see putting Berseria over P5 is if you want something with a vibe closer to more traditional PS1/PS2 era JRPGs
P5 had really bad writing that brings down the whole experience significantly because so much time is spent in cutscenes.
>not bland as fuck until Xillia
Symphonia's overworld map was bland as fuck, so you're about a decade off.
Obviously Persona 5, FF15 was an embarrassment compared to that game.
>everyone shitting on FFXV
All of you haven't played it.
Visually sure, it was an early 3D action RPG that prioritized content and performance over pretty graphics, but it was well structured and explorable with the player often having the option to do dungeons/bosses out of sequence.
Sup XV-kun
fuck off already you autistic lunatic
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Other than Ryuji being retarded and blackmail both being used as tools to string along the plot being used a million times I was fine with it
Xillia 2 was great, except for the fact they padded the game out way longer for no fucking reason
The debt didn't even have a story reason at the end.
>Magilou is literally only good thing came out of that thing
Eizen would like a word with you.
I'll still agree that Magilou was great
Berseria is fucking awful aside from Velvet, Phi and Eizen and their role in story and interactions. I don't remember seeing a JRPG with level design THIS bad in a long fucking time.
Berseria's plot is only good compared to an average anime revenge plot. Which isn't saying much.
The only reason people like persona is because you can self insert as a good looking high school lad who gets all the trope waifus and live in glorious nippon. It's literally nearly every user on 4chans dream.
Take away the japan setting and dating simulator and into the trash it goes.
Is that a bad or good thing? I was thinking of finally starting IAF.
Not exactly. Atleast they acknowledge that the revenge is futile and pointless, but still goes on with it anyway. Your typical anime revenge plot usually has some flimsy justification along the way and some bad characterization as well. To be fair in most Tales of games, the plot is irrelevant because its either some Technology is bad Aesop or some story about fantastic racism. Tales is all about stylish combat, character interaction and content.
Someone's bitter.
Hey Potter-kun how's the game?
Pretty much.
It's better than Berserk which most of Sup Forums loves.
Nothing bitter about it, he's actually spot on. Persona threads are nothing but waifu shit.
Like all JRPGs.
I like the modern Persona games in spite of the fact that I dislike the modern MCs and dislike silent/self-insert/Gary Stu MCs in general. What does your "What I learned in my high school level psych class today" armchair expertise think of that, Dr. user.
And why do many Persona fans also like EP when it has a female actual character protag and no dating sim?
>all the tales game are shit
Please leave Sup Forumselvet
except XV
What's funny about this is that Berseria has better girls than P5.
Yes because when I go to a game with a literal social sim as a major game mechanic I wont expect discussions about the girls in it, like Im going to a Witcher thread and not seeing shitflinging whether Yennifer or Triss is the better woman. Literally almost every game has that shit and it isnt an argument, hell even literal faggots can join in the fun because of XV
Obviously, but it doesn't have a self insert protag that allows you to date them so it sees less popularity from otaku scum.
Literally.
>Tales
>Less popularity from otaku scum
Please neck yourself
>TW
>good
lmao
>Every thread is Waifu shit
FTFY
I havn't played Persona, Tales of B was fun, but Nier A is the goty for me so far.
>I dont have reading comprehension
Lmao
>Why do many Persona fans
I'm sure those are more Mainline SMT fans who like P2EP
>Tales
>not crap only otaku could like
user Tales is one of the few JRPGs that has an annual festival where fans of the game gather at a stadium and circlejerk each other to oblivion, please refrain from talking about it when you obviously dont know anything
Velvet alone makes berseria better than P5 and XV.
Nice samefag.
What's your point? I never denied that a good deal of the playerbase are waifufags (or rather fujos), just that it has less appeal to those people than a literal dating sim.
>Velvet Crowe
Her name is stupid, even dumber than Noctis.
You would probably buy a game that crashes on startup as long as the anime girl on the cover art was cute.
Now if only the Tales Of creators would stop killing/writing off their protagonists.
It's been 4 games already (Xillia/2,Zestiria,Berseria)
They also forgot how to set up proper romance without making it unbearable (Abyss).
The series has gone down the drain for a while now, it's time to do something else.
>10 years
fuck this idiotic meme
>I dont know how to read post times
Xilla didn't kill off its protag
Although yeah, they should really stop doing that.
Hearts R had the sappiest ending around next to Graces F, but its cheating since its just an enhanced remake. I wish we could have feel good endings in Tales again
DID
NOTHING
WRONG
P5 can't be the best because it's exclusive. Simple as that really.
Plenty of actual Persona fans love IS and EP and often at least one of the modern (3/4/5) Personas as well, and your attempt to discredit that means nothing, sorry. They may also be SMT fans, but that doesn't mean they aren't Persona fans. The autistic screech fits between the vocal minority who think you can only like new or old Persona games does not represent a majority of the fanbase.
Lots of people are drawn to the series because of the way each game applies Jungian psychology differently and to different relevant modern social scenarios.
Mate, P5 is played by normals, entry levels and shutin weebs. Berseria is only played by shutin weebs and homosexuals on steam with anime profiles. Dunno where you're getting the idea that Tales is less /r9k/ tier than P5.
Tell that to Zelda and Nintendo in general.
They totally did in Xillia2, arguable on the first but the excuse and execution to send Milla away from Jude/everyone was a fucking stretch. Made even more stupid after what happens in 2.
Post more of her
Quality argument.
Fuck no. You guys are only rating Berseria so high because you're waifufagging Velvet. Its reaching Vesperia levels of wank except Vesperia actually had other stuff going for it regardless of the MC.
It was a step in the right direction after Zestiria but still had a lot if the same dumb shit like bland dungeon designs, an uninteresting over world, and a terrible way of handling equipment. Combat was good when it flowed right but could instantly become shitty due to have the SG worked. Break Souls were a nice idea in concept but executed in a way that made battles incredibly easy once you figured out how to abuse them.
The story is somewhat better than usual for the series but still nothing that great. People go on about how the cast doesn't care and how they're bad guys even though most of the stuff they do ends up being for good anyway. The only objectively innocent person they kill is Shigure because Rokurou is a psycho who wanted to git gud.
You misspelled Magilou
>Lots of people are drawn to the series because of the way each game applies Jungian psychology differently and to different relevant modern social scenarios
No, that's the minority. The majority are nu-weebs ala pic related that are drawn to the Japanese setting and cute girls.
Not an argument, just an observation.
Moron.
With that sort of projection, you should work at a movie theatre.
>n-nuh-uh
Thanks for playing.
FFXV>Tales>DatingSim5
>renamed that image to personafag
Where did it hurt you
>m-my baseless assertion is stronger than your baseless assertion
Stay triggered, Personafag.
It's even funnier when you'll read it from Japanese.
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