Find out enemy's weakness

>Find out enemy's weakness
>Exploit it
>DUDE ALL OUT ATTACK LMAO
This combat is fucking babby tier even by JRPG standards

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didn't you hear, you only play JRPGs for "muh story"

Any JRPG with good gameplay is forever shitposted to death with "muh story"

>Playing on easy
>Complain that it's easy

>poorfag
>watch stream
>haven't played the game
>sperg out like a retard

Hurrheurhrurheu

>playing any SMT game that starts with Persona
>for the difficulty

Would you prefer classic JRPG gameplay, such as:
>Hit enemy with weakness
>He takes 10 more damage
>Now it's his turn

Play this it has some of the best turn based combat in jrpg history

I really wanted to like this one but I just couldn't.

>implying WRPG standard is high
name one good combat from wrpg shit

>Decided to wait for the game to ship until next week because I wanted that sick-ass steel cover.
I regret nothing

>battles are practically auto-pilot
>characters constantly praise you for winning
>sexy women with low self-esteem literally fall in love with you for telling them they look pretty and giving them chocolates

This game

Baldur's Gate & Baldur's Gate 2

shit and shit
next?

No one plays Persona games for the crappy combat.

> implying normal SMT's combat isn't as fucking braindead

>Click guy
>Tell him to hit enemy
>Now it's his turn

Dark Souls and Dragons Dogm

Oh, wait, those are Japanese too. Even the Japs do WRPGs better than the west.

Name one (1) video game with intellectually stimulating gameplay.

>no u

I don't even agree with OP but come the fuck on.

Chessmaster 5000

>expecting challenge from turn based combat
It's literally time + luck, no skill required.

Intellectual Stimulation Simulator 2016

>What is Valkyria Chronicles?

none
westcucks can't into combat

buff alica and rush the camp

>Select scout
>run across the map with no problem
Yes, way better

>they do an attack that one of you are weak to
>heavy damage AND another turn

it goes both ways

The game feels more balanced on hard, you NEED to exploit all out. It's basically a game of wrecking them before they wreck you. On Normal the combat would be very balanced without all out, but it feels cheap as is.

The combat is fun but there should have been a middle ground between normal and hard mode.

better than standard jrpgs which have been trash/mash attack

>Find out enemy's weakness
>enemy's weakness

still in first 2 dungeons, i see

Persona was never hard besides some bosses on hard difficulty.

What it is is punishing, the game is just waiting for you to mess up, and once you do you get multi-turned into oblivion.

>team wiped because of despair
>a billion stupid afflictions
>didn't have the item/spell to cure it
>no mention of stat affliction causing death
bullshit desu

they outright tell you about status tutorial in the menus early in the game, idiot

Hard just makes the battles and dungeons take longer and need to be done over the course of more nights. Which doesn't really create added fun. The core gameplay is so easy in this game that you can't really make it more difficult without simply making it more tedious.

>no mention of stat affliction causing death

It's in the tutorial menu, that and the negotiation personalities and answers should have been in game tool tips rather than in a separate menu.

The game starts throwing enemies with no weaknesses at you during Palace 3, after that it just gets harder.
>he isn't doing a Merciless Arsene-only run anyway
scrub

It does add more reliance on buffs, especially early on, but the tedious part is exactly why I toned it down to normal. I feel like there's too much to do in the game for me to spend too much time in the metaverse. Especially considering you get cockblocked from doing night activities by stepping inside metaverse.

you can access that during battle?

I don't think so, its in the main menu under system I believe. Which is why I said that it should have been in the tool tips.

well you do get a tool tip saying information about status effects is available

Try rushing in VC3 nigga.
I'll watch.

People only praise Persona 5 for either the waifus or the "man, super cool noire vibes and aesthetics"

No this is bullshit:
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+ 300 spells/abilities.
No, this is not exaggeration. And it's not 'lel quantity over quality' either.
Infinity Engine games had amazing combat system.
They were cheesable though.

>replaying p4g on NG +
>be going through kanji's dungeon with Lucifer
>killing everything with ice amped mabufudyne
>forget that one enemy reflects ice
>get a mindcharged amped bufudyne to the face
>MC dies immediately
>had to start the whole dungeon over again

>300+ variations of "Hit him"

"i never played past madarame but i want to shitpost" starter pack

pretty annoying hopefully p5 eventually unlocks an ability to switch out teammates without waiting for slowass MC-kun to switch them

>dude the "one more" system makes this game to fucking easy
>dude the enemy gets extra turns for exploiting my weakness? Fucking artificial difficulty

I bet this faggot will pull this shit In a few days

Why did they water down the difficulty so much?

Remember the pivotal boss battles in Tartarus and how actually difficult they were? How you had to exploit buffs and even use your healing items?

>ahem
F A L L O U T 4

No I remember spending Decemeber in the arcade getting a 99str Persona and just wrecking all the last bosses in Tartarus in a single hit.

i dunno i think its a plus because its lets me get through the garbage combat quicker

though i have no idea how these games get so much praise with the atrocious dungeon design and combat that they have

>Remember the pivotal boss battles in Tartarus and how actually difficult they were?
No.

>P5
>Atrocious dungeon design
t. Never played another Persona game

Those are action rpgs, not wrpgs. WRPGS are games like planescape or arcanum

I think the main draw is the fact that the battles are easy to win, but also easy to fuck up. There were quite a few times where I got nuked by some common enemies because I underestimated them.

honestly, the games are high school simulators with an RPG on the side. the social stuff is RPG-like as well. i typically play persona on normal difficulty bc its never worth grinding and the combat is what it is. i never wanna get stuck leveling when i just wanna progress the goddamned story

>>P5
>>Atrocious dungeon design
>t. Never played another Persona game
The implication is that they're all garbage and despite P5's improvements its still garbage.

not once cake teacher starts giving you "massages"

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I don't understand

Nope.
The Answer bosses were hard, though.

In all seriousness, every Fallout ever made is pretty decent on the combat front.

1 and 2 have God-tier turn-based combat and while 3, NV and 4's combat is mediocre by FPS standards, those systems still have a lot more variables to toy around with than the average WRPG.

The funny thing is, I don't even use all out attacks. They literally do less damage than a baton pass empowered physical attack.

You realize they don't use up a turn, right?

>Literally last mob before next save point
>Killed everything but one guy
>It's his turn
>Attack up
>Heat Wave
>Crits errything, joker at 10% life, everybody else basically dead
>Mob does regular attack
>Targets joker
>Sweating fucking bullets
>Makoto steps in my way and takes the hit like a champ
I FUCKING LOVE YOU MAKOTO

>You realize they don't use up a turn, right?
They do.

Huh? I'm pretty sure you can't baton pass after an all out attack anymore. Or am I horribly misremembering?

Actually I think he's just calling P5 shit compared to other JRPGs.

>all out attack
>not extorting them for mad cash
stupid

>don't do this
>have fun

Huh really gets the ol' motor revin'...

Baton Pass isn't a free move.

Is there any way to make turn based combat actually require any sort of skill?

>He doesn't know you can extort AND do an all-out attack after that.

Baton Pass doesn't consume your turn. It's a free move.

Actually no it's not

This is fucking awesome

it's not a free move, but they can get another free move on that turn

It passes your turn to someone else dumbass. It doesn't consume it.

>Not having money so deciding to settle with the fucking PS3 version
If only I had a PS4...

It doesn't consume the target's turn, but it does eat the One More! of the guy who uses it. Just be completely exact.

Is Rank 2 Knowledge enough for the first midterms? Fucking cat introducing Mementos after telling us to study hard.

Persona has always had babby tier of combat system, why are you complaining?

Its clearly a socializing/pretend to be a high schooler first, and a dungeon crawler second.

Post your face when you walk into the airsoft store for the first time and come face to face with a FNV NCR Ranger

I got 2 Knowledge studying with Ryuji the day before exams started and only got "above average." Decent charm boost though.

Doing well in exams isn't important, it will just give you a Charm boost.

Define skill.

So there's no reward like in P4?

Devil May Cry 4

I never played a JRPG but I heard they're supposed to be hard and/or grindy

There's no real difference between them aside from resolution.

Persona is a VN pretending to be a JRPG.

still miles ahead of FF games that can be finished by using just basic attack command, also in Persona games statuses etc work on enemies unlike 99% of jrpgs... yeah it all boils down to all out attacks but its still much better then any other jrpg

Persona is neither of those things. There are even limits albeit extremely generous ones in place to keep you from just grinding your shit up.

I love how P5 threads complain about artificial difficulty one thread, then says it's too easy the next.

??

You can use the online features on PS4 without paying for PSN?

>only have charm and intelligence maxed
>everything else is at 3 and 4
>a month till the game is over
FUCKFUCKFUCK
im not sure if i should even start haru's link
i wanna max sojiro's link as well but that's a fucking pipe dream at this point

Yes.

>third or so palace
>two oni show up
>get them down to a ball hair of health each
>one uses rampage
>gets crit on one person
>uses it again
>gets crit
>they proceed to spam rampage until i die

that's what i get for not paying attention