Did Gael surpass Orphan of Kos as definitive vidya kino?

Did Gael surpass Orphan of Kos as definitive vidya kino?

>masterfully crafted tragic backstory that gives the player a reason to visit the Ringed City
>amazing enviromental hazard in the form of lightning that strikes where the dark souls shards collide
>cape physics deal damage and punish panic rolls
>combos several techniques mid combos such
>the player stands in disbelief as he is not sure why they are fighting Gael, a friend, situation turns into pure survival

This is the peak soulsborne bossfight.

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I like the fight against Gael, but it really felt more bombastic than it needed to be. OoK fight has a somber tone, but he himself contrasts that by being a shrieking, crazed personification of the curse that plagues Gehrman and the hunters. Gael comes across more of a surrogate in the plot than anything else. Where we could have answers and conclusion, he denies it. He seems more like a way of writing away your hope of answers.
The fight itself is great, but it has the same DaS3 issues other bosses do. Not enough going on outside of them just attacking continously. When they aren't doing that, it's just excessive projectiles. They never quite merge them correctly and find that balance, OoK comes closest IMO. That and the environmental attack that forces you to change positioning.

Not really, there were fights in the base game that gave me more trouble than Gael. He's a pretty flashy boss but he's pretty easy to deal with.

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Define kino. In addition, stop with your forced Sup Forums memes.

To answer your retarded question though, no.

If anything it's the most insulting. The effort it makes to please all the senses while providing almost no build or relevance to it when considering the fact you're playing the third game in the franchise is honestly astonishing. It exists solely to provide quick, understandable content to people that think a flashy fight with a half-assed 'feels' backstory is the greatest thing ever.
Maybe I was wrong to expect more, and to expect it to really bring things together for the last DLC, but it is nowhere near the level of Bloodborne's DLC. In Sup Forums's memes, it's more comparable to capeshit.

They somehow managed to shoehorn a minor character into a major role harder than B-Team did with Aldia.

It's shit.

Oh cool. I need to filter "kino" on Sup Forums2.0 now too.

i wanted more buildup, artorias felt a lot cooler when you read about this guy who kicked darkwraiths ass and walked in the abyss like it was his bitch. gael just had his painter waifu and muh dark soul.
good fight tho.

He wasn't even in the launch version of the game. I didn't care.

The fight was breddy gud, but the arena just felt weird to fight in. I get the whole, 'end of the world' thing, but a more structured area would of been nicer.

>masterfully crafted tragic backstory
"go get some shit for your underage waifu"
"ok lol"

Aldia had more than a minor roll in Ds2

>a slave vs someone who couldn't even kindle the flame
>two people of the lowest form
>fighting at the end of the world

I couldn't be more kino than this.

Up until SotFS, he was 100% a minor, nearly inconsequential character that you never even saw. And then he would just awkwardly show up to smack you in the face with a bit of exposition during SotFS.

>flames
>arrows
>lightning

What the fuck is even going on

>final boss of the souls series is literally guts
they actually did it

Gael is alright but he was too easy, OiL is more difficult by a wide margin and thusly feels more complete as a final boss

That's like your opinion.

Step aside plebs. Im the only kino around here

The way he shoots the repeating cross bow wholemeal suspended in mid air,is straight our of Devil may cry,and I love it

haven't played BB, people call him pure kino all the time. What makes him kino?

Can someone explain to me the story of the two DLCs? I don't even know why I was in the ringed city or why everything died when I touched the egg.

>le my sword was by my side all this time XD

le fanservice sword of moons

...

Music is godlike

youtu.be/uPP1e7hOyik

>the player stands in disbelief as he is not sure why they are fighting Gael, a friend, situation turns into pure survival

I honestly dont remember the guy. Where do you see him in the games?

And who the fuck did you wanted to be the final boss of the series? The resurrection of Gwyn? Artorias? Solaire? You stupid pieces of shit always complain From rehashes but the second they do something original you bitch is not more lazy fan service. Go fuck yourself.

Cathedral of the Deep if you have the first dlc.

Great music, best version of the sword, challenging and build up. He was hyped as some bad ass legend in the base game and you finally get to fight him in the DLC.

eh, i don't see it. guess i'd have to play it to really know, but no matter what now it'd be a watered down fight.

Gael was probably the most disappointing fight in the series.
>moveset is largely made up of recycled Artorias, Nameless King, and Orphan of Kos moves
>boring, generic, messy character design
>recycled orphan of kos lightning gimmick
>recycled Maria flame aftereffect gimmick for what is now the FOURTH fucking time
>is a literally who worthless character
He was fun to fight but incredibly unremarkable, nowhere near Orphan of Kos, Ludwig, or even Maria. Midir was way cooler too.

The funniest part was how they recycled the skulls from Martyr Logarius moves during the first phase but didn't even bother to change the color to black to match the dark soul. Simply amazing

Not him but they could have done what every other DLC in the series did and introduce a previously unseen character that exists in the lore, or introduce a character that was already in Dark Souls 3 as a minor role and reveal that they were more important than you believed and you fight them. Instead, they introduce this LITERAL nobody character that has no personality and a boring, forgettable design and go "Wow you're fighting GAEL now! How crazy is that, can you believe it?"

The final boss of the ENTIRE fucking series should have absolutely been somebody with some level of importance, and there are tons of creative things they could have done with previously existing NPCs or lore characters. For example, if Nameless King never existed in the base game I think he would have been a perfectly satisfactory final boss for the DLC.

But why the would NK search for the Dark Soul?
Gael does make sense if you played the first DLC.

>music is fantastic
>feeling of excitement and dread as an already very difficult boss straightens up and and draws an enormous magical greatsword
>that particular sword is fanservice for people who played other Souls games, most of whom aren't used to having it used against them
>boss is perfectly judged in terms of being challenging and giving you a tremendous feeling of catharsis when you finally get the hang of it and turn the tables

>introduce a character that was already in Dark Souls 3 as a minor role and reveal that they were more important than you believed and you fight them
That's literally what it is

>Nameless King never existed in the base game I think he would have been a perfectly satisfactory final boss for the DLC.

After revisiting the lore of Dark Souls 3 and playing the game again, I can say that I wanted Sullyvan to be the final boss, either in DLC or just the final boss of the base game. I mean the plot of DaS3 can simply be resumed to "Sullyvan did this because he was a dick" so why not make him the final boss?

To me if Sully was never a boss, he would have been perfect for a final boss battle. Going to the ends of the world to search for this guy as he is trying to claim the power of the dark soul sounds pretty fucking awesome to me

Gael only makes sense because of bizarre, meaningless asspull lore that they added in this DLC. He is still a totally worthless character that they suddenly made the most important character in the series.
>why would NK search for the dark soul?
I didn't mean NK would perfectly fit the story they made for the ringed city, I just meant that NK was a good example of revisiting a previously alluded-to character and making them a fresh, fantastic new fight while having elements from previous games. Hell, Orphan of Kos was a completely new, random, bizarre character but his existence and role in the game added on to previous lore and explained things that had been unanswered, as well as providing background for other events in the game's lore. He was the same idea as Gael but they actually integrated him in a satisfying fashion.

there is a difference between "minor role" and a fucking bum that literally sits there and does nothing. It would have been cool if say, Yuria had been involved somehow, or that chick who is strongly implied to be a shard of Manus. A fight against the Primordial Serpents would never work but a fight against Yuria in the Abyss with Kaathe eerily writhing around in the darkness and attacking you to help her every so often would be cool.

Agree with this. Trying in the whole virtually-unused "waterworld as an alternative to the age of fire" concept would have been a preferable alternative to the ash/desert-future, as well.

They could have established a more complex endgame for Sullyvahn than "get jumped by the ashen one and some cheap summons in some random church", and the revelation from the first DLC that he came from the Painted World could have played a greater part.

What I like about the pontiff is that you only learn about his impact in the story AFTER you've killed him.

Making someone truly evil be the last person you defeat isn't really the style that the souls series have been going for anyways.

They could have used his origin as a resident of the Painted World to create a more complex/sympathetic backstory than "wants to take over shit"

I bought das3 at half price. What are the chances for the DLCs to go on sale?

Regardless of sales, would you recommend me to get Ariandel or Ringed City first?

On an unrelated note am I clinically retarded for not realizing that the Abyss Walkers were literally Artorias Redux, until I read the item info on the Soul they drop

>How about a fight with an NPC we've already seen in a featureless black background whilst a snake with comical teeth and a fake moustache wriggles around
No thanks

>add a character in the first dlc
>he's talked about by at least one other character who talks about how he's looking for the darksoul
>fight saidcharacter as a dude who found the dark soul
Wow what is this fucking asspull should've been lucatiel.

>Gael

Fuck no, literally who as a boss and forced as fuck with the first DLC, not the kind of final boss anyone was expecting or hoping for

Everyone wanted to you know, fight like, I dunno, the Furtive Pygmy or Kaathe or something.

Go through Ashes first, then Ringed City

Ariandel first. Both DLC are a side-story of the sorts to the game and barely connect to the events of DaS3 and Ariandel serves as a prequel for the Ringed City.

2easy. He needed a 4th phase were the dark soul starts going wild and he transforms into something similar to Manus and slaps your shit. Also needed a cutscene or something for all your trouble.

Otherwise all the bosses in this DLC were a lot of fun if you aren't a massive autist. Spear of the Church is a hilarious pastime. Imagine if Gank Squad in Sunken King had worked like that

what's the lore behind him? Who the fuck is he?

some guy who served under Gwyn with other Slave Kinghts and fought against the Dragons.

>masterfully crafted tragic backstory that gives the player a reason to visit the Ringed City
Gael is a shit non-character and this fight, while mechanically great, is absolute trash on the story telling level.

>tfw it's the massive health pool that kills me every time
It's not a fun boss to replay, I usually get 10-15 minutes into the fight and then have to teleport out after running out of estus.

Also,
>tfw they didn't bring back best armour

>masterfully crafted tragic backstory
?
>not sure why they are fighting Gael, a friend
?????????

Mechanically it's a decent fight, up there with Dancer and Friede as one of the best in DaS3. Thematically it's everything wrong with DaS3 turned up to 11.

>kino

Probably the unfunniest meme any board has put out. Shame on you, Sup Forums.

an ancient undead who served the Gods, then he chose to serve the little Half-dragon girl in the painting.

he went and wandered till the literal end of time to find the Dark Soul so he could get blood from someone who had it, so the girl could paint a new world.

turns out the pygmy's don't have blood, she had to take the Soul into himself and it drives him mad.

you fight him to collect this blood and bring it back to the girl.

>What makes him kino?
not being spoiled on the kino stuff that goes on during the fight

looks slow as shit and boring to fight

>hollow greatsword
what a piece of shit

he's easily one of the most pressuring fights in the series, I wouldn't call him slow.

though that doesn't make him hard if you can dodge, but if you are a blocking player, he'll kill you ever time.

are these the guys from DS II that attack in hordes in the prison?

What are you talking about, Drakeblood is in DaS3

he was a slave knight
he fell into the painted world and took care of some child painter
he then goes to go find the dark soul, ends up at the end of time, eats the dark soul or something and fights you
he's got about 4 lines of dialogue across both DLCs

>any DaS2 shit
>best

ye
na

never liked using shields
well from the webm he looks slow (compared to kos even during p1

>has not played DaS3
>still watched all the move sets from the last boss

cancer.

>torn cloth
maximum pleb taste

everyone except fucking Alida in the SERIES has 4 lines of dialogue.

some of the most beloved characters have less than that!

looks awful

thats all his moveset?
what a shit fight
>dont even remember witcher 3 spoilers and i've read them here , and haven't played the game

he's slower than Oprhan (these ARE different games...) but he puts way more pressure on you than nearly any boss in the series.

You could have fought the pygmies instead and then got the original dark soul, it could have been this epic ass fight with like 12 stages or some shit, and with that finally broke the curse. Would have been a much better ending and conclusion imo

why do people get so angry at the word "kino"
you really are scared of the unknown, huh Sup Forumseddit?

Drakeblood is the best set from 2

Ringed City just made me want more DLC from Dark Souls III, there was really no finality to it.

Yeah, but if you're going to try make a character for me to care about and include them in not only one, but both DLCs as an important character, then you need to do more than a tiny bit of dialogue. Manus and Orphan didn't have any dialogue but they had amazing buildups that you pieced together as you went along, and Artorias was heavily referenced over a dozen times in the das1 base game so that you could build up an image of what he was like.
Gael isn't mentioned at all in the base game, is barely relevant in the first DLC, and then his boss fight comes out of left field right after you touch a broken egg and teleport through time (?). There's no buildup, I wasn't amazed to see Gael like I was Manus and Oprhan, I was extremely confused and when he died I thought there was more to the DLC due to the laughable note it ended on.

They could have at least thrown in some closure. Something like, "Truly, these are our Dark Souls...(III)." Give it some oomph, y'know?

You mean like "Is this the blood of the Dark Soul(TM)"?

DO they actually mention it? I always skip the cutscenese

(you)

who was the pigmy? the princess?

But they did it already
>Is this the blood of the DARK SOULS™®: Prepare To Die™® Edition

And it's fucking autistic

that's because he himself isn't important, he's a slave to his mission, he's a reflection of the player character, it isn't who he is, its what he's doing and why.

he isn't a god with some epic tragic shit, he's just an old bearded man at the end of the world.

pygmies are humans mate.

Yeah, Gael genuinely says that. "Aah, Is this the blood...... The Blood of the Dark Soul".

>And a fine Dark Souls 3: The Ringed City to you!

Lapp was fucking retarded

a bunch of kings with shards of the Dark Soul, you meet them at the literall end of time and the end of the world as they are being eaten by Gael.

Gael mentions it, first time a non serphent does in the series, at least so directly.

its weird, he seems to gain immense (possibly the STRONGEST character we ever fight) strength just by.. knowing he has it?

when he realizes he has the Dark Soul and has effectively completed his mission he gains his power boost, doesn't even transform or anything, just stands up and utlizes it.

>talk to npc
>somehow int he middle of it they start cackling or laughing everytime

Why do they do this all the time?

because they're crazy for being alive for hundreds of years without even the option of death.

Dark souls 3's DLC makes me sad.

we see the truth of the world, that it WILL end in nothing but a field of ash, no light or dark, no abyss or fire, just endless nothing, with no one in it.

all that struggling was for nothing.

I suppose the Painting the Little girl makes could fix this by making a new world that will never rot or fade...

>muh furtive pygmy final boss
probably dead. and the pygmy lords are literally husks. you probably wanted them to power like yoda and have some anime shit boosfight
>muh Kaathe boss
he is dead as told by Yuria when you kill her

>with no one in it.
Except one ringwraith for some godforsaken reason.

I doubt it's something they missed. They put that fucker there intentionally to hint at something.

its more that primordial humans just don't wither of natural causes.

That's all well and fine, but sticking him as the final boss of a DLC meant to answer questions that have been asked since the first game, while taking place in one of the most lore-important locations in the series, and making players wait a year and charge 20 bucks to play, is a gigantic middle finger by From soft. I understand that it's meant to be "oh so poetic, two literally whos at the end of time", but that doesn't make it a good ending, satisfying or enjoyable. It's a moment that tries to be deep and cinematic and comes off as a complete joke.
Maybe I'm just salty the rest of the D

LC is so fucking shit, and they even lampshade how they don't care about answering lore questions through that faggot locust character. Both the DLCs should have been one DLC together, maybe it wouldn't feel so half assed and disjointed.

I like to think that when he says that he is telling to us (the player) that the DaS franchise is dying and bleeding inthe floor and when he ask us to bring our Dark Souls to him is in truth Fromsoft begging us to refund our copy of the game so they cant make another entry 'cause everyone has refunded the game

Sirris > Shira > Yuria