The great debate

The great debate

But it's not a debate.
There's a clear cut winner out of those three.
Now go to sleep.

I haven't played any, but I'd take a punt and say Persona > Tales > FF
Persona has some interesting looking elements, but I can't deal with weeb shit or story.

FFXV is not even in the running though

is FF 15 a comfy game where you ride a comfy car with your comfy bros or is it really an unfinished meme like MGSV?

kinda considering buying it but also don't want to get too disappointed

P5: 9/10
Berseria: 6/10
FF XV: 3/10

both, and it's only the former for the first half. The sense of brotherhood between them all is the only thing I liked about it really

and how long is the first half approximately?

P5>Berseria>>>>Shit>>>>>>>FFXV

Took me about 30-40 hours in total

Just stop, spaming these threads won't make Berseria any more popular.

I played the Berseria demo 20 hours into P5. It didn't stand a chance.

All three are good. Persona is the best of them.

Persona 5: 7.5
Tales of Berseria: 7.0
Final Fantasy 4.5

I'm not Phil Fish, but Japan needs to learn that games which focus on combat and dungeons, should have worthwhile combat and dungeons.

Both, but it feels much more unfinished than MGS V which at least has high-tier gameplay mechanics.
Also, better get it once they're done with updating the game in a year or so

never in my life would I ever have thought that I'd rate a tales game above final fantasy, bravo Square Enix

The story in XV has a definite ending and the major plot threads are all wrapped up. So no, not like MGSV.

Nier: Automata

which one is it

Berseria won already

Kill yourselves. P5 is literally a VN with turn based combat in a corridor, the tutorial is also literally 10 hours long, fuck man there is more invisible walls in P5 than XV has despite you being in very small areas to walk in in P5.
P5 has the worse soundtrack and it sounds like fucking generic filler trash, XV has fantastic fucking themes for battles, bosses, characters and story moments that P5 doesn't even fucking come close to reaching.

P5 all takes place in a single city while XV takes place in a whole world and has music reflective of you going to differnet places, Letallum has havana flavor, Altissia has italian flavor, walking on the overworld has wanderlust which has a wild west feel to it which completely fits Leide and the general overworld, as does sunset waltz which reflects a sense of adventure and romance of adventure. The songs in XV actually evoke emotion, nothing in P5 evokes any emotion.

Well MGSV definitely plays better and XV definitely has some cut content, but not to the extent of MGS and the story has a definite conclusion unlike MGS. They also both are light on cutscenes (although that mostly changes in XV once you get to the final third of the game) and have a large amount of busy work side missions.

>and the major plot threads are all wrapped up.

Out of screen or in the most retarded way possible which doesn't make this game any more justice.
Also
>absolutely no explanation on why the Astral war occured aside from vague hints that barely make any sense
>Eos (as goddess) being mentioned, yet her portrait in the murals is described as Oracle
>no explanation why Noctis is the chosen one and has to die
>no explanation why the Astrals suddenly started hating Ardyn despite giving him abilities in the first place
>no explanation why Ardyn went corrupted when he basically was the Oracle 1.0
>no explanation who Isunia is
>no explanation why Regis was willing to sacrifice his son
>no explanation why Luna acts like a retard and gets away with it

No, just fuck this game and its devs who didn't have any idea what they're doing

not an argument

good night daddy

XV has a solid ending, better visuals, characters, visuals, gameplay, environments, design, enemies, music.

MGSV had no ending and was inferior in every regard. It only got high reviews because muh Kojima and because they wanted to send a message to konami as a "fuck you you fired this guy whos been in the industry 30 years so we'll score his last game high to show you what you're losing". MGSV is more unfinished than anything in XV.

Fuck off retard.

Good Webm.
I like when my sandbox game is empty.

The why of the Astral war isn't important to the story. Noctis is the chosen one the same way every other "chosen one" character is across all mediums: just because. Ardyn was given the ability to cure the starscourge or whatever if was called, and did so at the Crystal's guidance, but by taking it in himself he became contaminated. The crystal couldn't let him in XV Valhalla because he'd corrupt everything else. Regis was willing to sacrifice his son because otherwise the world would end. Luna acted fine. She was dying due to her Oracle powers and was doing all she could to prep Noctis to kill Ardyn.

still not an argument, just shit and tasteless opinion

>XV takes place in a whole world
Aside from fishing spots, everything feels pointless. I didn't even try to hide my displeasure. Sadly, World of Final Fantasy also suffers from reused assets and pointless filler. The difference is that areas fit a theme and at least look different.

P5

Pretty sure this is just weebs rating the game based on how much they want Velvet to step on them. I never trust steam reviews of anime games, it's a whole different crowd with different sets of priorities than other games.

>I can only play action games because I'm too dumb for RPGs

Berseria.

Persona 5.

I played all three of the games OP posted and Automata is indeed better. None of those are deep RPGs anyways. Persona I guess has the most depth but it's still a shallow and easy game.

XV has a proper world, it feels like an actual living world with both large empty areas and dense populated areas with outposts of civilization here and there, with natural animal habitats and caves, dungeons and lots of places to see. Leide actually captures the area it was based on and has a sense of place, and you can see the landmarks to regions over from Longwhythe peak, Duscae arches to the Rock of Ravatogh in Cleigne. Other open world JRPGs like XCX just look empty for no reason.

Fuck off retard.

Stop samefagging.

FF15 was a half-finished, half-assed game Sqeenix only released because it was a black hole endlessly consuming budget, so really it's between Velvet and Fatlus.

Stop replying to such obvious fucking bait.

>solid ending
you are pretty much accepting that FFXV ending is mediocre by saying that is solid.
>characters
The only "good" character is Ardyn
>better visuals
Muh graphics
>enemies
Holy shit more generic soldiers.
>Gameplay
A littelal button mashing simulator

>I can only play 'hit the weakness' simulators because I'm too dumb for action games

Even within the first area the game gave off the vibe of just using assets that were available and smashing a storyline onto them that had little or nothing to do with the environment the game took place in. There's literally no in game explanation or lore for why just outside of this huge sprawling metropolis modern city you apparently have ye old Interstate 75 complete with redneck truck stops and what looks like broken down refineries and pipelines and shit.

Berseria is a 7/10 at best. Still had some of the same problems from Zesty, namely bland as dungeons and environments combined with subpar graphics and a retarded equipment system.

But it put the series on the right track. Hopefully if they keep it up the next game will be great instead of just slightly above average.

P5 >> Bearsia >>>>>>> XV

>The why of the Astral war isn't important to the story.
It is, considering it started the Starscourge which set things in motion in the first place
Noctis is the chosen one the same way every other "chosen one" character is across all mediums: just because.
Usually that doesn't mean getting fucking killed just to finish off some crazy hobo
>Ardyn was given the ability to cure the starscourge or whatever if was called, and did so at the Crystal's guidance, but by taking it in himself he became contaminated.
Oracles are given the same ability yet nothing happens to them.
>Regis was willing to sacrifice his son because otherwise the world would end.
That's plain stupid, that's not how any father would behave, especially given their already not so good life as father and sonn
>Luna acted fine. She was dying due to her Oracle powers and was doing all she could to prep Noctis to kill Ardyn.
As in what? Wakening the Astrals that didn't do a single thing aside from being sucked into the ring without even appearing in afterlife to finish off Ardyn?

The game shoe-horns so much random stuff, I can't take it seriously

Never talked about cities or dungeons.
Talk about overworld.
Also XCX look more interesting in this pic than FFXV.

Nice to see the contrarianism on Sup Forums is so strong that the game is apparently able to come back around from being the absolute worst thing ever and Tabata the new great satan of JRPG's to this in like barely half a year. Is there a new FF thing coming out for something that allows for this because that's usually how this stuff works. Like I can't help but notice suddenly everyone loves FFXIII and not just "Lightning is muh waifu" posters.

Yes OP, trade them all in and put it towards a new PC

FINAL FANTASY XV IS SHIT
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

>it feels like an actual living world
Not with the invincible walls, enemies appearing out of nowhere and zero events happening in it.

FUCK YOUUUUUUU
IT IS THE BEEEEEEEEEEEEEST GAAAAAAME EVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEER

XV has a fantastic ending, strongest end any JRPG has had. Noctis's death was manly and honorable, killed by his forefathers and ultimately by his father.

Nope the bros all feel and act like actual people, like actual bros who've been friends for a long time and act like real people.

Art direction is visuals, not graphics, graphics can help facilitate art direction to make it look better. P5 has shit graphics so whatever art direction it has looks like shit because of the shitty graphics. XV has great art direction to begin with and having great graphics let the art direction shine even more.

XV has more enemy types to fight, more weapon types to fight with, more combat variety itself, better dungeons, the party in XV are more likeable than anyone in the P5

It's not even remotely close to as good as XV. 90% of battles in P5 I just press options and watch the game win and only on bossfights just spam persona skills to deal highest amount of damage the quickest until you get an all out attack, while XV I'm using different weapons switching on the fly in combos, warps and warpstrikes, shield blocks and parries, and all kinds of abilities and team attacks and link strikes and aerial combat that make it great. Running is clunky as fuck, camera is terrible, crouch points are unintuitive, there's more invisible walls than even the most walled off section in XV. Graphics look like shit compared to XV. Music is bland and forgettable compared to XVs god tier OST, the characters are just copy pasted archetypes from the previous games with new designs and it just feels like a generic anime, while XV feels like a grand adventure with your bros that feel like actual humans. Character designs in XV also shit all over P5 too, older Noctis is easily one of the best JRPG protag designs ever.

Fuck off retard

unfinished meme. story feels rushed and has lots of plot holes, gameplay feels unfinished and unsatisfying (especially chapter 13, jesus fucking christ), world feels bland, pacing is garbage

>weeb games
kys

this is a ironic post

Once again lads, don't reply to really obvious bait.

>XV has a fantastic ending, strongest end any JRPG has had

I played XV and I think this line is full of shit.

Persona 5 > Nier Automata > Berseria > FFXV

>he writes this wall of objectively wrong text unironically and for free

nevet change, xv-kun, threads featuring you are the greatest thing on Sup Forums

Here we go again, XV-kun vs nigger5.
Can we have a berseria thread already?

>the party in XV are more likeable than anyone in the P5
Deserved a (you) here, very solid bait

Replace XV with Automata and you can have an actual conversaion

XV shouldnt have even been made

Not an argument.

P5 MC is literally devoid of any actual personality or character and is just a self insert of the player, he pales in comparison to an actual fleshed out character that we see has growth and personality like Noctis. After a while in P5 when you keep doing shit everyone just sucks your dick. Fuck off retard

Not an argument isn't an argument, it's just a paradox of opinions. Accept that, sperg.

Persona 5 >Nier Automata > First 6 chapters of FFXV > Berseria > rest of FFXV

P5 > Tales > FFXV
They're all fun though.

so FF XV is a definite must buy GOTY of every year right?

Let's not do that today.

>so FF XV is a definite must buy GOTY of every year right?

in his deluded mind, yes.

Here's anothet (you), got me again

how long do those first 6 chapters last?

Uh-oh! Someone hasn't played Persona 5! Shit dude, there's like 80-100 hours of great character development in P5, whereas XV just sticks to the same monotone characters.

The flash forward in XV was a plot device which ruined all chance of character development.

I must be the only person who liked chapter 13. It kept changing things up so despite the length it never got boring, and it was a nice change of pace from the rest of the game. It gave you all the tools you needed to survive and I enjoyed hearing Ardyn taunt Noctis. It was better than Altisia IMO.

ToB and FFXV were legitimately terrible.

I've yet to try P5.

Why was Noctis on that island and why was there a fucking jet ski there

Depends on your pace and willing to cope up with fetch quests.
May take up to 20hrs I'd say

Yes, it's the best FF yet, best JRPG of this gen and has more GOTY awards than any other JRPG does.

you can keep your denial to yourself since you clearly have not even touched the game faggot

Stop samefagging.

XVs cast of bros is better developed and more human than the shitty generic highschool cast of P5 that jut rehashes P4 archtypes again. XV is superior in every aspect to P5.

that game has a really bad ending stopped me from getting it

>since you clearly have not even touched the game faggot

Nice February image you saved from the archive.

>XV has a fantastic ending, strongest end any JRPG has had
Haven't played so much RPGs then user
>Nope the bros all feel and act like actual people
Holy shit they killed my father.Don't care
Holy shit my friend is blind.Act like a retard.
>XV has more enemy types to fight
Pic related
>A sword, a gun and big ass sword
>he party in XV are more likeable than anyone in the P5
A side character is better than FFXV party

So you're saying the self insert gets character development, or are you talking about the cast?

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>XV has a fantastic ending

>Cup Noodles walking advertisement
>RECEPEH momy-steriotype butler
>sassy blonde prettyboy

>more human than any P5 confidant or party member
Good stuff, care to share the joint you smoke?

Hey nice damage control there, why are you acting like only one score matters but the other one doesn't? Are you Metacritic cucks really that desperate? How about you compare the amount of positive reviews XV has to the positive reviews P5 has? Metacritic is fucking useless yet here you are still fucking shilling it.

How about compare the amount of GOTY awards XV has to the amount of GOTY awards P5 has?

Not an argument.

>people still respond to XV-kun

> generic highschool cast of P5 that just rehashes P4 archtypes again
Oh boy.

Both the cast and the MC. The last dungeon and Christmas eve was a massive development in the MC. Every event such as the Fireworks festival, the beach and Hawaii, progresses the character development of the main cast even deeper.

I'm not responding to him. I'm triggering him.

Why are you using reviews to decide how good a game is? You realize people can just be paid to give good scores right, or that some of the reviewers don't even know what they're talking about?

>How about compare the amount of GOTY awards XV has to the amount of GOTY awards P5 has?
It came out almost 2 weeks ago.
Are you retarded or something?

It mattered when it was at 86 according to you.

nice 180 kek

Always loved your logic, Barry.

>Metacritic score doesn't count!
>But goty awards from noname websites do!
Hypocricy can't go much farther than that

I'm not the same user dumb ass, now why are you basing the quality of games on review scores?

Persona 5 is my first Persona game and first turn based jrpg, so far I'm 24 hours in and fucking loving every aspect of it.

I've heard Berseria is good but it looks generic as hell, does it have good story / characters and combat?

The 4 bros in XV are better characters than any of the literally who blank slates and generic anime waifus in P5

Aranea, Cidney, Cid, Iris, Cor, Ardyn etc are better than any piece of shit character in P5

Ardyn is literaly the best JRPG villain to date and shits on the cartoon characters in P5.

Thanks for proving my point

Not an argument.

sure it wasnt

But how does the MC develop, he's a self insert, you make all his choices.

>I've heard Berseria is good but it looks generic as hell, does it have good story / characters and combat?

story is decent and the combat is good. It's not turn based, instead it's an action RPG.

Yeah it's not, I can't make that many replies in that amount of time, use your brain.