Japan doesn't make better games than the West, you just like the genres they're good at.
Japan
>Melee combat games
>jRPGs
>Racing (literally one series)
West
>Shooters
>wRPGs
>Racing (every other racing game)
Vanquish is not an argument for good Japanese shooters, since it's so much more about movement than aiming. Good, but not a shooter.
because SHOW ME THE WAY TO THE NEXT WHISKEY BAR.
Who gives a shit, each side has good and bad games, just enjoy what you like
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The west has done more than that faggot. Japan might have made a lot of iconic games, but the west literally pushed, created, and forefronted genres, USA especially.
This is primarily due to the fact that in the 90s, Japan were more concerned with pushing consoles like Sega, Playstation, Nintendo, etc, while USA wanted to push fucking games.
You're breaking genres down into sub-genres. It should look like this.
Japan
>lol
West
>Action
>Adventure
>RPG
>Sim
>Strategy
>Sports
While I kinda agree most wRPGs have been pretty bad since The Witcher 3.
when it comes to how the games are technically, Japan far outclasses America. Their games are far better polished than anything from the west.
Good picture, but why does it not have anything from the last 10 years?
Please no, don't start this shit, i can already hear the typing of the westacucks who worship Fallout getting triggered.
>Vanquish
>not a shooter because going fast is important
I guess the Titanfall games aren't shooters either.
>Japan good at jrpgs
>west good at wrpgs
WO
Witcher 3 is terrible and not a RPG.
Age of Decadence, Banner Saga 2, Grimrock 2, and Underrail are more recent and great.
These topics are only happening right now because Japan went on it's first good run in years to start 2017. This is really REALLY great for video games overall though because Japanese games have really been struggling lately and it should give producers and publishers a little more confidence in non-gachascam mobile games again in order to take some risks (which I know Japan has just absolutely hated the very concept of for most of the last decade in it's entertainment in general) which will hopefully drive their industry which will hopefully in turn drive the Western industry again to break of the rut that IMO it's starting to work itself into with too many high profile Triple A DLC scam games that bank on hype but end up being thoroughly mediocre.
American companies became more concerned with making money, scamming their consumerbase, and pandering agendas, instead of actually making good games anymore.
America needs to wake up and starting obliterating the market again.
Nah japan does WRPGs pretty well too
Doom doesn't even vertical aim and it's still one of the best shooters.
Vanquish still doesn't qualify as a good example because it uses a controller for aiming.
>Japan v West
>Not Japan + West
Ok, faggot. I'll just have fun while you let hate dominate your life.
Nope, you're just cherrypicking.
Japan: Breath of the Wild, Bloodborne
West: GTA V, Arkham Knight (console)
this
I played the shareware lords of the realm 2 to fucking death, omg.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
fuck off weeb
This. The west has a varied selection of games to choose from, meanwhile Japshit is just pedophile movies and map packs of Final Fantasy 1.
>L I T E R A L L Y going for the cuck centrist "just b urself" option
What a special snowflake.
>crpgs
Boring cuck shit
No good shooters or WRPGs have come out in the past decade or so.
On average, Japan makes far better games than "the West"
I agree that the West is better at most video game genres but the japs themselves are very good at a lot of certain genres.
>Fighting game
>Beat'em ups (both 2d and 3d)
>Mech sims (debatable)
>Shoot'em ups
>aRPG(debatable)
>Sidescrolling action games(Megaman,Metal Slug,etc)
>Platformer(debatable)
Me thinks the nips are almost absolutely better than the west at these genres but other than that, the west have the upper hand in absolutely everything else. Nips strategy and tactic vidya are pretty weak when compared to the west.
>can't aim on a controller even with slo-mo
user...
>Calling other special snowflakes while he spergs over games because of elitist mentality
k then
Japan has significantly better arcade games. I dunno what to call them...shmups generally? Metal Slug, R-Type, etc. I know America did well in this market before the exodus to console.
What happened to the FPS genre anyway? Before, they were all the rage, but nowadays it's all gone quiet.
>West
>>wRPGs
eh you know japs made souls
Implementing realism after CoD and focusing on cover and fire gunplay killed it.
Please tell me what good shooters Japan have made in the past decade other than Vanquish. I'm dying to laugh.
If you don't like RPGs that's fine.
I wasn't implying they made any, you illiterate retard. I was saying that they make better games on average than Western developers.
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>all style no substance vs muh realism
videogames are dead
Replaced by open-world shooters
I think Japan and the West each have their own strengths, although Japan is still largely better.
Japan exceeds at creating deep, interesting gameplay systems that ask for a lot of technical proficiency from the player, along with good enemy and boss design that require you to make the most out of the game's mechanics. They also exceed at presentation, including polish, atmosphere, good music that contributes to a game's atmosphere, and so on.
Western devs excel at world-building, writing, and storytelling, although even that isn't really that good most of the time. I'd say they're better at making shooters as well, but a lot of the best shooters are Japanese.
Quake Live is the best 'shooter' ever made and came out in 2010. There are several good WRPGs out.
Are you sure when you say West, you don't mean AAA garbage that does not represent the west any more than capeshit represents Western movies?
CoD burnout. The new meme is class-based multiplayer-only shooters like Overwatch. Even the more "realistic" takes like Siege use the class model now.
What are some good Japanese shooters, other than Vanquish?
Binary Domain? Come on.
Oversaturation, like every "big" genre. Look at all the DMC-like games that showed up in the early 2000's because of its success, now look at how those games are small, niche things today. I doubt FPSes will ever fall from grace that hard, but it's definitely becoming out of fashion. Open-world ARPGs are the new hotness
I'd argue that nip RPGs tend to focus a lot more on trying to have unique systems. Sure, a lot of them are run of the mill trash or worse, but that's just the nature of things.
AAA is more prevalent in the west, which brings the overall quality down. In Japan, the only AAA company still standing is Squeenix, and that's only in regards to Final Fantasy.
Not him, but Splatoon?
I agree most Jap shooters aren't super great.
>any shooter
>good
Eador>Might and Magic
Resident Evil series 4 through Revelations 2
Splatoon
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Most of the big Western shooters that everyone loves, like CoD, Gears, and Uncharted, aren't even that good imo. Quite shallow and boring mechanically, in fact.
>west
Britain on its own makes better games than Japan.
>grand theft auto series
>batman arkham series
>fable
>banjo kazooie series
>battletoads
>burnout
>football manager
>driver series
>original tomb raider
>little big planet
>total war games
Literally takes a fat shit on anything Japan has ever produced.
See Although we might start having to define exactly what you want from a shooter.
I'd add Steel Battalion, but is that just because you can do a lot of shooting in mech game?
>I was saying that they make better games on average than Western developers.
And what fucking metrics are you basing this on? If they don't even have better Shooters, why do you believe them to have better game on average?
I wish some fans of Japanese games weren't so rabid.
I mainly play western stuff, but I can see that a lot of Japanese games are objectively excellent. The Souls series, Zelda, Mario, Persona, Platinum stuff. It's amazing and highly polished.
There's no need to say "western games are all corporate trash churned out by talent-less hacks". A lot of western games are beautiful, interesting, and fun. It just depends what you like.
>eastern vs western thread
i'm asian
so i don't know about 'western' games very much
which western countries make good video games other than america
Remind me what is the purpose of these threads when it ends exactly the same way every time and another one will be up tomorrow and the day after and again and again and again and again and again
Britain and Slavniggers.
Slav states
Sweden
UK
UK and countries in Europe (eg Guerrilla, DICE, CDProjekt)
If we follow this line of logic, I guess I'd add Armored Core. You shoot stuff in those and they're pretty fast.
>it ends exactly the same way every time
You mean it ends with weebs getting shit on?
>but the west literally pushed, created, and forefronted genres
And killed it until the famicom brought it back.
No it ends with each side getting the more and more triggered by everyone's rampant autism. Nobody will change their opinion, it's a waste of time.
>Weeaboo board likes weeaboo games
I didnd't expect it
>Leafs don't make good ga-
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Yeah I know NLG is the only good leaf developer. Wish we had more.
Reminder:
Being a "weaboo" really means liking stupid anime-style games. Just liking games made by Japanese studios is fine.
famicom actually ruined it though
the nintenjew turned everything into a race for who could appeal to the widest audience
>>Racing (literally one series)
>Mario Kart
>F-Zero
>SEGA racers like Daytona USA and Outrun
>Ridge Racer
That's at least four OP
Dead Rising 2 and OTR were good. Damn shame about 3 and 4 though.
I'm not triggered because I'm not an autist who feels the need to defend grorious nippon and its zero good games.
Oh okay fine. They're good at weird cartoony and extreme racers.
>Quite shallow and boring mechanically
m8, as someone who played both, you're terribly wrong. Gears of War and Uncharted multiplayer shits on Resident Evil 4 both mechanically and in terms of depth. The amount of moves and interactivity that complements each other is simply unmatched.
I don't get how anyone say that Splatoon is a good shooter. You shoot at the ground and environment to win and it's so fucking slow when you compared it PC FPS. I always saw people complementing about its verticality but it is really shit compared to the likes Titanfall.
>Kid Icarus: Uprising
The only decent shooter in your list though it's really unfun trying to play with those controls.
Remove everything except F-Zero.
>>grand theft auto series
ok
>>batman arkham series
asylum=ok, city=eh, knight=shit
>>fable
shit
>>banjo kazooie series
shit
>>battletoads
shit
>>burnout
shit after 3
>>football manager
eh
>>driver series
coast3r (shit)
>>original tomb raider
shit
>>little big planet
SHIT
>>total war games
eh ok
Overall, acclaimed jp games have mechanical depth and artistic creativity while acclaimed western games have meandering openness or realism.
But you are an autist who needs to spend hours of his life arguing with people who are not going to listen to you in the end. So why bother screeching about glorious western games?
>Gears of War and Uncharted multiplayer shits on Resident Evil 4 both mechanically and in terms of depth
What? No. I was defending the West, but this is just blatantly wrong.
What kind of faggot doesn't like Outrun and Daytona USA?
>britain
no surprise
they are basically japs of europe
>slav
>sweden
really
what series
They are average games.
Games from the 80s don't count, grandpa
Turns out when you cede control of video games from the developers to dipshit publishers, they all turn into dogshit that seems solely focused on making a buck for the publishers and do terrible shit to their employees (crunch time, massive lay-offs) and consumers (removing content in development and selling it later at a premium, placing all money into advertising and not development,).
Basically what I'm saying is class war now, hang the rich, communism will make video games good again
>all those games and companies got bought by giant shitlords like EA or disney and crashed them right into the ground
Respect your elders whippersnapper
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JAPANESE DEVS BTFO
State capitalism is as bad as normal capitalism. If the workers don't own the means of production, it's not communism my man
>soviet game
>put coin into machine
>giant face screams at you
>seizure inducing flashing screen
>you are now driving directly into traffic and immediately crash into a car
Ah yes, the true golden era of vidya.
To be fair that's pretty good for the 70s, the year when that was made
Quality is dependent on the discipline created by the free market. Communism will create the same issues as the rampant corporatism we have now, perhaps more so. Sorry friendo, looks like you will have to keep your shitty mcjob.
It really isn't. Stuff like Space Invaders and Breakout were the standard then.
Jesus, what the fuck America? You fat fucks used to make such iconic industry shattering games that changed gaming, now you guys are basically nothing.
>seizure inducing flashing screen
That flashing is due to the display being recorded.
>I don't get how anyone say that Splatoon is a good shooter. You shoot at the ground and environment to win
Ignoring your laughably ignorant statement comparing Gears and UC to RE4, this is a blatant oversimplification of Splatoon's meta. There's so much more to it than just shooting at the ground and environment.
Why are commies so bad at videogames?
has capitalism improved on the original tetris yet
It's inferior soviet displays. What's your point?
>mildly suggestive themes
Nintendo sure knows its audience huh?
I can only imagine how bad the eng voices are
>WRPG/JRPG
>Genres
Into the trash.
This, RPG's were a mistake. WRPG's are either autism sims for people that would rather be playing Microsoft Excel than a game, or people that would rather read a generic fantasy fiction book than playing a game. JRPG's are completely irredeemable trash, mostly casual grindfesta or "tactical" games with the depth of tic-tac-toe.
>Japan: Video Game
>West: Video