Skill ceiling so low that american nobodies can beat storied japanese legends

>skill ceiling so low that american nobodies can beat storied japanese legends
So why haven't we moved back to 3s yet? Smash players play melee. Starcraft players play Brood War.

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3s is fucking garbage, surely you meant Alpha 3.

Alpha 3 is fucking trash, surely you meant USF4

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street fighter is shit surely he meant tekken 5

>3D
Literally unplayable.

What changed from IV? I desperately want a reason to cling to that justifies how garbage I am at this game. I was never good at combos but I got to B rank easy with just footsies, knowing my normals, mind games, and patience. Now it feels like to play V you can win ONLY if you just become a never ending stream of inputs and pressure.

>Implying it's not the lack of arcade release that gives Jap players a leg up on everyone six months ahead of time

that's not how you spell cvs2

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You guys are all plebs. They were never able to top the very first game in the series.

I don't get it

Combos don't take skill anymore.

Combos used to be about player expression. Take youtube.com/watch?v=wRNGTGpUf7k for instance. You don't see stuff like this in SF5 because everyone does the same exact optimal combos. Skill went out the window as soon as Capcom gave 3f buffers to every link.

People still play 3s. You're welcome to play it if you like. I really don't get Sup Forums when it comes to fighting games. You'd all rather bitch about SFV than A: play a fighting game or B: talk about another fighting game.

because i want everyone to move to 3s. there's no point in playing it if barely anyone plays it. without a paradigm shift in fighting games, people will keep playing the same shit.
the problem here is that most fighting game players came in after sf4. they don't understand that 3s is pretty much hands down the greatest fighting game ever made and as a result, they end up getting complacent and playing the newest capcom fighter just because it's new.

>You'd all rather bitch about SFV than A: play a fighting game or B: talk about another fighting game.

I don't get this either. I like SF5 and if I want to talk about the actual game, /vg/ is the only viable place most of the time. Sup Forums barely talks about fighting games.

3s is not even good let alone the greatest, kid.

>So why haven't we moved back to blank yet

Money.

If you want people to play 3s then make a topic discussing it. If I'm joe schmoe thinking about picking up a game I want to see someone passionate about it discussing it. Instead you just seem like a little weeny mad that you're not the popular kid.

Also it's not really as objective as you make it sound. Someone could love 2d fighters and not love 3s, it's not that hard to picture.

>evo moment 34
>thousands of players in coop cup
>every character has interesting idiosyncrasies
>absurdly good balance
Yeah, you can sit down now.

Kinda what I was thinking but Im afraid to comment on the new lower bar because I cant even utilize it properly. I don't wanna be the guy shitting on something just because he cant git gud with it

>evo moment 34
Ahahaha, good job.

>3s
>absurdly good balance

What parallel universe do you come from, stranger

>japs dont get the game one year earlier like usually
>suddenly the results are more even
woooooow

I'm more than thankful for that, though. I won't ever play at the same level as a goddamn Tokido, but I'm still glad I can perform some good combos anyway. I wanna enjoy a good game first-hand instead of watching streams.

Parry gives everyone a fighting chance and in an optimal situation, makes every matchup a 5-5 because literally no move is safe.

You obviously have brain problems, I'm out.

So you've never played Third Strike.

I kind of assumed he was dumb when he said there's no point playing it. It still has a fairly active, if small, community.

3s is just as guilty as other Street fighters with it's low short in to super

the difference is 3s has interesting supers. like yeah, the short short super and the normal lengths between 3s and sf5 are comparable but sf5's supers are all cutscene into 50%. furthermore, you can't add 3s style gorilla dashes in a fighting game and not give players better defensive options like parry.

youre actually correct

everyone is really just fucking terrible at the game and the only people who act like they know everything are losers who hanged out at arcades and fags who play makoto

>own a stick and a ps4pad
>don't know which to actually learn the game with

it's the newest game in a series everyone likes and it's a joke, people want it to be good since it's such a loved series

in b4 xrdfags try to get sf players to play their shitty dead casualized game even tho it's nothing like sf in the first place, juist as bad as sfv but they don't know since they never played any of the previous games

Just flip a coin.

if you don't use a stick, you might as well not play fighting games.

The one that feels more comfortable.

Last I checked fightcade still worked. There's nothing stopping you from playing the older games.

I rarely if ever see other fighting games with threads. They just make threads whining about SFV. It just seems really pathetic.

Don't listen to this guy

> 3DPD

fightcade is shit tho. fba is a godawful emulator for cps3 games.

so who's ready to see a third boxer at the end of the month?

yeah, if you'd rather have clunky 4 directional movement instead of smooth, precise control with an analog stick go right ahead

if you use a d-pad just kill yourself

Don't listen to this guy either

>analog for 2d movement

Third ?

Why are younger people so much better at SF5 than the old guard? What changed? Shit like this is depressing to see since I'm 25.

I'm more interested in the new cute girl.

>tfw no fighting game with 3rd Strike's pacing and movement but without parries and with characters with better toolsets
What's a guy gotta do

Pretty much this. Most of the time Asia and more so Japan gets the game 1 to even 2 years ahead of time and gets more time to play. Look at Tekken if you want to see that gap.

I'm fairly sure SF3 got some hd releases on last gen consoles then if that's how you feel.

To be honest I don't really think most of you play fighters. I think you just cling to shit like SF or Darkstalkers or whatever for e-cred and probably only ever played arcade mode on them back in the day.

That's a lot of assumptions to make, but there it is.

>dudley
>balrog
>whoever the third silhouette is

No it doesn't. It actually makes 3 characters fucking monsters because of it.

Oh, you counted Dudley. The next one might be Byron, a sambo practionner.

I can see that gap just by playing a game for a year and looking at my progress.

When you put 1000+ hours into a game in a year you will get really fucking good at it.

I'd body my early 2016 self 100:0.

SFV throws traditional fighting game skills and play out the window

Dudley is very much a boxer, isn't he?

>people think 3s is good when there are characters with moves that are minus on fucking hit
laughing my fucking ass off

He's not in 5, that's why it was confusing.

I just thought you were only talking about SFV.

>only 3s has that
Wow.

Even old FGC vampire wasn't popular unless you had a scene. So if you didn't live in California or NY you didn't play the game at any level. SF3 was fucking dead in the water when it came out. Once again the only people that played it were in NYC and California.

ahaha, good argument.

There is nothing to argue about, he is retarded.

That was the impression that I had. But to hear people talk you'd think everyone was a darkstalkers pro back in the day.

Darkstalkers "fans" are the biggest fucking posers in the universe.

Next time you see one ask them what their characters bnbs are.

Try KoF '98

just people that pretend to play/like the games/series. Same as xrdfags that pretend to play their dead game

SFV is like a more boring Tekken since the pokes are so stubby and so much of the game is both players right up in each other's grill and guessing with buttons.

Every game that isn't SFV, NRS newest, and Tekken 7 is dead.

best stick = seimitsu
best buttons = sanwa
best case = madcatz te

>precise control
>in a genre with only 8 directions of movement

Analog sticks are less precise for fighting games, if anything.

>Not using a Hitbox

best stick and pads belong to hori

I just take all sanwa in whatever box they come in.

Americans have beaten the Japanese in SF2 and CvS2 as well, not to mention American made/adopted games like KI or Marvel.

American Capcom players have always been strong if they like the game and adopt it early enough.

So, was there any announcement after NCR?

name 1 other game that's actually a game that has shit like that
and I'm not talking about "durr it's minus from full screen so literally no one can punish it"

>post your face when they close the tournament with Rashid's theme

Not CPT so no.

The reality is that Third Strike is also shit.

>what is Ryu's low fierce
Pick a game.

oh fuck me I swear I meant to say "special" moves

actually you're an idiot anyways because no sweep is unsafe on fucking hit in any sf game what the fuck are you even talking about

>low fierce
>sweep
I'll give you some time to figure this one out.

it's cancellable so it's a moot point

Stop moving the goalpost, that was just the most obvious one because it's -half an hour.
Also fireballs can be negative even on hit.

Because 3S is HELLA imbalanced. I agree with Sirlin on them needing to make a patched version for the game to become interesting again.

Uriens mk tackle is -3 on hit in sf5. Don't talk about fighting games with authority if you don't actually play them, retard.

Too late for that. Veterans wont accept any change at this point.

I have this same problem
>get B+ with fucking Guy of all characters
>can barely get to Silver with Season 1 Rainbow Mika

>muh combos mean the game was betterrr
Know how I know street fighter 4 was your first fighting game? In that case anime fighters are the best fighting games and that's never been the case

>Caring about a game that's going to be ded once Marvel comes out

Character is all about whiff punishing, so is a bit hard to play correctly.
KoF XIV is still dominated by asians despite it coming out around the same time worldwide. That may just be due to lack of interest in the west, though. Juicebox's autism still haven't allowed him to beat Xiaohai, to my knowledge.

It has more to do with SFV not getting an arcade release.

>/vg/ is the only viable place most of the time
What? /fgg/ is hot poopoo with more tripfag circlejrking than game discussion or matchmaking.

>tripfag circlejrking
That's the whole board though. I don't understand why won't they just fuck off to reddit.

which is the same thing.
arcade releases usually come at least half a year earlier.

its very rare that a game comes out on console first and then moves to arcade like KoF14.

I've played XX and still like Xrd. I think I'm the only person in the world that actually finds danger time to be an interesting mechanic, though.

Because even the dev team has admitted DT was a mechanic that was forced on the game by higherups who wanted the game to feel more exciting, turning what once was a mundane game mechanic into a very serious issue.