I've never really played a fighting game for more than a couple hours before, best I've done was button mash my way through some random MK campaign.
But recently I've been watching a lot of that stuff and really feel like getting into it. What games would you guys recommend to start off with? I'm on PC only, btw.
Also, should I just invest in a pad right away or stick with my PS3 controller for now?
(Also Kolin is best grill)
SF5 should be fine if you are new, a big playerbase with people around your level is very important.
If you are fine with the pad just stick with it, shit killed my thumbs so I got a stick.
>le zoning projectile spam
For 3D fighters DOA5 is fun, pretty easy to get into, has a great tutorial and a free-to-play version if you want to test it first.
And tits of course.
Yeah, I meant a stick.
Still not hip with all the lingo and stuff
This is 100% based on absolutely nothing and I have no experience with them, but for some reason 3d fighters don't look as fun to me.
But if there's a free version I'll be sure to check it out, thanks.
If you are comfortable with your ps3 pad just use that, hell you could play on keyboard just fine.
Wait for Tekken 7
>Tekken 7 + 1 frames of delay
Dis nigga...
Really though Tekken is easy to press buttons but hard to master. Movement is a bitch though. You should learn movement first and foremost.
Pick up Xrd for the cheapest you can. Rev is the newest and most active version, Rev2 is coming soon™ for PC. The tutorials and missions in the game are the best around. Worst part though will be finding online matches unless you have friends or find people from shit like here or discord. SFV's only saving grace is the sheer amount of people all over skill curves playing cross-play on PC and PS4, however it is in an incredibly poor state right now and I cannot recommend it nor the DLC.
Forgot to add, you can also emulate plenty of games with MAME/FBA and play online with Fightcade. Also PS2 emulation and Dolphin open up even more fighting games. Melty Blood also has a free version with netplay.
I love plebs you have just got into cancel back dashing and make it thier whole game. They just sperge all over the stage and i just stand there negating the whole thing. They get really mad when you refuse to chase them like they want and then they come charging in and get punished. Mfw.
I recommend you pick a game or two out of the recommendations given so far, and find a discord for it. That way, you have a place to find matches of either people around your level, or people that are willing to teach you and not just destroy your ass.
If not, then only SFV and Tekken 7 (once it releases) are likely to have plenty of people around your level to be automatically matched against.
play guilty gear
I was actually just looking at xrd the other day, it looks great, certainly on my list.
Oh, and I downloaded Fightcade and a few games earlier today but didn't get around to playing any of it. Anyway, thanks for the help, man
Try out some UNIEL if you want something really fun play.
Yeah, I'd love to find people willing to help, no one I know irl is into fighting games and YouTube videos will never be the same thing.
I'll look around for some discords, idk if there are any big ones that are only for fighting games, but there might be people on just general gaming ones willing to help, thx for the tip
Don't play SFV it will teach you to play wrong.
Looks good, but does it have an active player base? Game is 5 years old already
I don't really know what that means, but if you say so...
Nope, you gotta make a friend or two if you want to play. Shame since it's such a fun fighting game with some really cool systems. I love how the meter works.
I'm not going to recommend you anything. I'm going to list the common games people will recommend, explain the pros/cons, and let you make your own educated decision.
>SFV
Pros: SFV has an active community and is easy to play, which makes it a good choice for new players
Cons: The game is very one dimensional. You will learn how to play one playstyle, and won't learn the finer points of SF or 2D fighters in general.
>USF4
Pros: SF4 is pretty much built as the best "Baby's first SF" of any game in the series. It has all the staples, but also has easy to use crutches for new players
Cons: SF4 teaches bad habits to new players. Also, this game is dead online. Unless you have some local competition, or friends to play with, good luck finding opponents.
>SF3/2/Alpha
All of these are bad ideas. SF3 is too hard for new players. SF2 is too unforgiving. Alpha is dead, and unpopular, so it's hard to find good tutorials or competition.
>Guilty Gear Xrd
Pros: Xrd has an amazing tutorial that will get you into the game quick. The community wants more players desperately, and will do whatever they can to help you. Guilty Gear is the best way to get started on Anime fighters, if that's your thing.
Cons: The community is pretty much dead. The game is pretty much "Rushdown: The Game", just like many of the other airdash/anime fighting games.
>MK/Injustice
Pros: Both these games are super newcomer friendly, and not hard to play
Cons: They're weird, and lots of the skills you learn won't transfer over quite well to other 2D titles
>Tekken 7
Pros: Tekken 7 is the only active 3D fighter worth playing. The game is solid, and is based on years of the series evolving.
Cons: Learning Tekken seriously is an uphill battle. It's a hard game to play, both execution and strategy wise. Also, 3D games aren't anything like 2D ones.
Continued:
Yeah, movement is really important but a good player still needs to know which buttons to press at what time. I'm honestly better at movement than I am at pressure but that has it's own perks like whiff punishing.
>Skullgirls
Skullgirls is a hard to play, shallow, and ultimately dead game. I cannot recommend learning Skullgirls at this time, but especially not as a newcomer.
>Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
Marvel is near dead. A new one is coming out that shares more in common with Marvel Vs. Capcom 1 than this one. On top of that, Marvel will teach you some things really well, and completely ignore other important fighting game skills. Lastly, this game is COMPLETELY BROKEN AND UNFORGIVING. Expect to lose 100% of your life in a single combo on a regular basis.
>Killer Instinct
Pros: Easy to play. Fun as fuck. Active.
Cons: The Combo Breaker system means that you're going to be playing like an idiot, and are ok with that because you can just break the combo if you guess right. Also, you need Xbox One/Windows 10 to play this one
>KOF XIV
Pros: KOF is a solid game that isn't too focused on any one part of fighting games. This is a great way to learn fighting games.
Cons: KOF is mostly dead unless you live in Mexico, South Korea, Japan, or some parts of China and Brazil. Also the graphics look like butt.
user, you're the best, I'm eagerly awaiting part 2
Oh shit, it's here already, scratch that
(Still the best though)
So, basically all of the current big fighting games either have major flaws or zero pleyerbase.
Unless I play KI or KOF (which maybe I can cause I'm in Brazil).
Honestly though, the massive reliable pleyerbase of SFV is veeeery attractive (and they gave my girl Kolin), but if I can get over that I'll probably go with either Xrd or KI (KOF is still on the table but I don't know a thing about it, so I have virtually no interest so far)
Anyway, thanks for the breakdown, very helpful
How did I fucking mistype playerbase twice?
Taking bets on how long will tekken 7 survive on pc.
Im glad everyone gets a try, but it really says something about Steam if you can't get one of the most popular fighting games ever to work out.
This is why everytime PC guise say "*also on PC" i feel kind of bad for em in this case. The community is 20+ years old and are unlikely to make the switch from PlayStation to PC for one game.
You can buy the best PC ever, but there is something you can't buy: the community.
Also hurts knowing that the PS4 version gets an extra few things thrown at them. My GTX1070 ain't going to play this game, going to have to get it on PS4. Depressing to be an idort sometimes.
OP back just to say:
Holy shit, KOF XIV has like, 50 fucking characters.
Not saying that's good or bad, just, wow
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 has 60 characters. More characters is not exactly good for the competitive side of things.
I know King of Fighters isn't the best game to start with as your first 2D fighting game, but is it necessarily a /bad/ game to start with? I really like the series, but I'm wondering if I'm wasting my time learning these K' combos.
>Also hurts knowing that the PS4 version gets an extra few things thrown at them
Oh yes. And if this image doesn't mean anything of importance to you, then maybe Tekken just ain't for you because this PS4 costume exclusive is gonna be the tightest shit.
>caring about the gays
Video games are all about cute girls.
Wait for tekken, its the only fighting game worth playing, try doa also
Stay away from 2d shit. Also avoid mortal kombat
Ps3 controller is fine, 'pad' meme is just that a meme
not op but in same situation. how is blazblue playerbase on steam?
>Recommending fightcade
Dude just gonna get destroyed.
Brazillian here, forget Guilty Gear. I tried finding people from our tegion for 7 fucking months and i only found it once.
Yeah, I figured so.
I was thinking of how hard it would be to remember how each of the other 49 characters you're not playing works and know how to counter them and shit. I also feel like it'd be hard as fuck to pick a character to learn, for me least
Not them, but the other benefit of it is that because it's seen as a titty-game you opponents skill will be significantly less than in Tekken where often they can juggle a large portion of your health off.
But as Core fighters is free, you have little to lose by giving it a trial, although you will be locked to just the ninjas I think
Fuck, what can you reliably find matches for, then?
Just Street Fighter and the other huge ones?
Not Street Fighter V. That game installed a fucking root kit into my PC last year so I am done with Capcom. Dont care what the SFV defence force says about it now being removed...Capcom put it in on purpose to begin with and thats super shitty,
Mortal Kombat X port started out really bad but improved so thats something.
Best fighting game on PC at the mo is King of Fighters XIII.
Buy all fighters when they're on sale.
You can get SFV for like 15€ these days so thats a good starting point.
You can also get one or two seasons worth of characters in KI for that much.
that's easy, if you don't like the look of any of them you go into team battle with a fully randomised team until you find one you like, and what to learn more of
Street Fighter 5 is pretty much the only one. I also have MK XL but most people there have more thn 5k matches under their belts. You can try KOF but i only even played the demo.
I have been looking into Injustice 2, that will be released in about a month.
Just not sure how hard it will be for a completely new player to get into it.
The combo system seems pretty complex.
Guess that's life, huh.
At this rate I'll probably settle for SF, but idk, maybe with Xrd Rev2 more people will get into it over here? (I doubt it, but a guy can dream)
I played a decent amount of Injustice, actually, but I didn't even dip my toe into anything complex with that game, so I couldn't say
>Guess that's life, huh
Pretty much
Design is the only thing Tekken 4 got right. Seeing that outfit brings back memories of the most broken move in Tekken to ever exist: JFLS.
Yeah, learning frame data (in Tekken at least, it's more exaggerated) is very important. Especially when you have 60 characters.
>Skullgirls is a hard to play, shallow, and ultimately dead game. I cannot recommend learning Skullgirls at this time, but especially not as a newcomer.
This is all incorrect.
Not the same guy nut i guess shallow might be the only wrong thing with that statement.
OP here, could you elaborate?
Pick up Touhou 12.3 Hisoutensoku, you won't regret it.
Not the same guy again but skullgirls is very similar to MvsC but you can pick a solo character or a team of 2 or3 character to call for assists. It creates inumerous possibilities since you can input whatever attack you want as an assist for each character. The game also has a shitload of little mechanics that you can use during the match. The game is dead as fuck though and the only plataform with players is on PC and you would need to find them on discord.
I visited the skullgirls brazillian discord and they just shitpost, i was able to get a match only once but you might get luckier than me.
>I visited the skullgirls brazillian discord
>i was able to get a match only once
As expected
Everything that is not SF5 is dead as fuck here and Sf5 doesnt even have region filter.
Im waiting for aprils update to go back and play it, without region filter the game is a fucking mess.
Virtua fighters 5
Well, I'll probably see you there, then. Seems like that's really the only option.
(I mean, I can always play with 200+ ping :))))))))))) )
If we're going to go for dead games then we may as well say Bloody Roar
Dont buy a game.
Hop on fightcade and play some old games, ST, 98, 2002 and Third Strike if you're into that (just don't become one of those retards who thinks 3s is teh best game evar and nothing could ever beat 3s!), talk to your opponents and ask them to help you out. Find a discord for a game you like and ask for help there.
Melty Blood is also free and very active, check /fgg/ for the links for that stuff.
You're gonna lose a lot.
Possibly thousands of hours of playing and losing.
>This is all incorrect.
Shallow it is not but it is definitely not an easy game.
It is an anime fighter with 6 buttons and assists. Anime fighters are hard enough with a single character and 4 buttons.
>The Combo Breaker system means that you're going to be playing like an idiot, and are ok with that because you can just break the combo if you guess right
Fuck no.
Play like an idiot and you'll get counter broken into 90% or just lock out instantly and eat 70% meterless.
Why are street fighter designs so bad? Literally every other fg I've seen doesn't have cringy characters. Fucking sagat in sf2, douche sean and wtf oro/necro/hugo in third strike, dhalsim in sf4...
>Sagat is a bad design
>
The fuck?
SF2 has the most iconic designs in videogames.
You dont even know what game Dhalsim is from, get the fuck out.
I get good connection there on the regular in my region.
What about BlazBlue?
Doesn't have an active player base either?
Dhalsim is from SF2 you moron. Kill yourself.
but he looks dumb as fuck in sfIV.
Also sagat looks ok for his main design, but the sprites just make him look "hurr durr smiley bad guy"
>Also, this game is dead online. Unless you have some local competition, or friends to play with, good luck finding opponents.
bruh how bad are you at usf4
It's not a bad series at all. It's different from most fighting games in that it's very fast-paced. Not to mention hops add so much to movement, that you'll feel restricted and slow in other games later.
After I started KOF I'm pretty much addicted to it now because everything else seems like molasses in comparison. Which one are you starting off with?
fuck off
...
Just start with SFV, easier to get into and more players
Anime fighters are memes, especially for beginners
Anybody willing to bet how long it will take until Tekken 7 dies on PC?
I'll give it two months before the playercount drops below 1,000.
fightcade fightcade fightcade
super sf2 turbo (the best sf game), kof98, and vampire savior are what you should be playing
SFV or Killer Instinct are the 2 most alive fighting games because of having crossplay. Get Killer Instinct if you have Windows 10. It's free and the definitive version is cheap. Also it has a god-tier OST.
If you start learning to play, do all of the tutorials to learnt heir combo system and try not to button mash to break combos when you're being attacked or else you'll get punished hard.
bet you are shit at all of those. fucking hikikomori
>KI
>alive
wat
Yes, you can find matches easily in KI and they still make new characters. It's alive.
yeah but who fucking cares about KI, honestly it is so boring to watch
>honestly it is so boring to watch
that's subjective and only a cuck bases a game on how fun it is to watch others play it
play a shit game that sells you each character for $2.99 oh and make sure the developer is american they totally know how to make fighting games.
how do you expect to get better if you dont watch pros play?
By watching with an objective mindset or by reading information?
sure pal, thats why you play shitty games like KI
good argument, meanwhile you probably are a stream whore for outsource fighter v with its play-dough models and forced esports scene
Download fightcade, find a game you like the look of and give it a try, if you dont like it nothing wasted and try something else.
Don't spend money on SFV the game is abysmal.
Is KoF 98 better than 2002? They're both very active so I'm not sure which I should learn
I think it comes down to preference
bitch im in platinum, what're you? you own a xbone you already lost anything and everything
Or even worse, he might use Windows 10.
>complains about rootkits
>willingly installs W10
Can't make this shit up.
I'm no expert but I think you're shit outta luck unless you happen to be Japanese.
You can just use discord to find matches.
>no melty
haha
>fightcade
>only active games are 3s, KOF2002,and KOF98
>kof has a bunch of hues in it so expect a shit connection
>SFA3 occasionally gets a population of 50
>everything else is dead
Super Street Fighter II Turbo is THE best game to learn the genre on.
Ultra Street Fighter IV is probably the overall peak of the genre.
King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match, and King of Fighters 2002 Unlimited Match are also highly recommended.
>Tfw you are so retarded at fighting games that you cannot do pick related after 200+ tries
>fightcade
>only active games are 3s, KOF2002,and KOF98
Literally false