So now that it's a confirmed success, how much longer until 3rd parties jump on board?

It got me thinking after Battlefront 2 was confirmed to not be coming. How much longer until we see the big third parties of this gen start coming to the switch?
We have Square now which is a great start, but there is still a long ways to go before stuff like Battlefront comes to it.

As compared to previous nintendo generations, the switch is actually close enough to the xbone and PS4 to play their games with minimal optimization. A huge step up from the Wii u and Wii compared to the 360 and PS3.

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>implying Switch can handle games like RDR2, Battlefront 2 etc

>As compared to previous nintendo generations, the switch is actually close enough to the xbone and PS4 to play their games with minimal optimization.
Absolute delusion.

Switch will never get high profile AAA 3rd party games like RDR2 or Battlefront 2

Switch will be a 1st and 2nd party Nintendo machine with a lot of weebshit from Jap devs and indieshit from the west. It's a supplement console to a PS4 or PC.

And I'm ok with that

It is closer to PS4 and Xbox One than the Wiiu but it's still closer to 7th gen hardware than 8th.

Never, even Square is wary and handing out lower end games.

You have to compare and see if the games can run in portable mode, which is the gimped mode and slightly weaker than a Wii U. Ultimately, this will mean the Switch will be a low tier port machine, and likely wont get many past its second year except indies.

I'd say its just a matter of NEVER EVER

It's going to be a Vita 2, but with, you know, support.

I wish, it ain't as sexy as the Vita.

Pretty much this. Can't see US AAA titles coming to the Switch even if Nintendo ends up selling a lot of units.

Audience for AAA western garbage isn't there, AAA development is stupidly bloated so publishers won't bother. It won't sell 8 million copies and they can't peddle theirDLC and microtransactions as effectively so its not worth their time.

What you SHOULD be asking for are new, original games from third parties, not ports of games people will just buy on the other platforms anyway. But that won't happen since third parties seem to be completely unwilling to take any sort of risk with software and make something that's not a focus group tested checklist of elements from popular games.

>So now that it's a confirmed success
Fake news.

The Vita has more support in its first year than the Switch, objectively speaking. Not only that, it will likely have a longer life cycle AND more games. So I would say saying that is an insult to the Vita if anything.

Agreed, why are thr bezzles so fucking huge and the screen is super low quality plastic

>It's going to be a Vita 2, but with, you know, support.


Yeah it got a Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Kirby, Yoshi, maybe Metroid and MonHun and then die like every other Nintendo console.

no 3rd party multiplats like Battlefront 2 and RDR 2 = no interest from the average normie gamer

no interest from the average normie gamer = low lifetime sales


It aint that hard to see.

call me when it can play COD or GTA
>You know it be true

The real reason that won't happen is because even if third parties take the risk on new ideas, they've no reason to make the effort to scale it back for such weak hardware when the audience isn't there to justify it.

Cod has always come to ninty consoles.

Nintendo hasn't had third party console support since the GameCube. Three console generations later that's not going to change.

>confirmed success
>third parties aren't on board yet
what

Why would you want multiplats on a Nintendo system.

Its not really risk, its more about loss of money. Ignoring the cart manufacturing tax, Switch owners are the same hardcore that only buy Nintendo games. They don't really play videogames as a whole, they just feed off the 'Apple niche' and venture only as far as brand power tells them.

Yeah, that's what I bought it for and what I'm already extremely pleased with it as. I don't understand people who want it to get these shitty downgraded ports of AAA games.

The Switch can barely even handle The Binding of Isaac.

Third party western games will never be coming to the switch.

At best it's going to get:

Nintendo 1st party
Japanese 3rd parties who supported the 3ds
Japanese 3rd parties who supported the Vita, at least those who won't or can't go PS4 exclusive.
Western indies

It's always good to have variety even if you and I are not interested in those sorts of games.

>How much longer until we see the big third parties of this gen start coming to the switch?

lel, are you serious? Nintendo hasn't had major 3rd party support on a home console since the SNES

It will get mobile ports and indie games but that's it.

They said the 3DS and its successor will continue though. If anything its competing with it

What Nintendo need to do is reshape the board so that they draw attention away from the bloated AAA industry that are on PS4 and onto their titles. So Red Dead, Battlefront, Destiny, AssCreed will all be competing for normie attention, Nintendo could swoop in right from under them all.

Switch's hardware is shitty.

Unless these third-parties are getting some extra money from Nintendo to develop exclusives for it, no way most multiplats will be able to be ported to the system.

Depends on how you look at

Japanese devs clearly care and on board

"Third Party" doesn't exclusively need to be western

Nor do they have to be big names

People are happy getting SMT, they don't need Persona

The DS totally won't replace the Gameboy line, guys.

At best we'll get some really wacky 3rd party gems like we did with the DS/Wii but that's not going to happen until sometime late 2018

The reality is, everyone who cares about everything else still will have a PS4 or PC or both for the best of everything.

It just makes the Switch a distant secondary unless you really like a handful of Nintendo games.

THIRD PILLAR

And, to be even more fair, 95% of Vita's support consists of ports better played on other platforms and stuff that will never leave Japan, like VNs.

>Its not really risk, its more about loss of money
That's what taking risks here means, the possibility of not making half a billion back on your investment.

Point being AAA development has gotten way too bloated and costly, so publishers can't sustain themselves on anything less, they don't want to take a risk on some smaller games with modest, $5-10m budgets, that won't make half a billion back and their investors won't be happy. Its at the point where Nintendo pushing better hardware won't matter, the audience simply is not there in large enough numbers. Third parties need to make original games again, but the nature of current AAA development puts a massive hurdle in front of that.

>weak hardware
Not the problem, Nintendo pushing out a more powerful console just means its more expensive, its not going to magically make tens of millions of people buy AssCreed and Call of Duty on the Switch. The audience for AAA games on consoles is getting smaller, not bigger, while development costs keep going up and marketing is beyond ridiculous. Its not going to be sustainable for much longer, third parties will have to start scaling back their games or they'll start losing money. I think if the Switch is successful on its own it might attract some third parties and get them making smaller-scale games again.

SMT is multiplat.

The western market doesn't want anything except the AAA titles and the occasional youtube indie hit.

i dont think even nintenbros can be this delusional

Japanese third parties are on board already.
Minor Western third parties devs are testing waters.
Major Western third parties devs remain to be seen. I expect to see some surprises at E3, though none of it may be mainline stuff like RDR2 or Battlefront 2.

Nope, the Vita's first year had many more exclusives than the Switch.
Also, the localizations have been coming pretty consistently. VNs are the minority.

Development costs for games aren't increasing. DEVELOPMENT costs. Why would you spend more money on making the game, which won't do a single thing for sales, when you could plaster posters on the sides of buses and buildings, have it mentioned every ad break on game of thrones, and have a song recorded for it by Paul McCartney? That's where game budgets are going.

PC/Switch combo will cover 99% of games if the Switch becomes the new Vita. Literally perfection.

>it's a confirmed success
>third parties aren't already on board

You're a fucking moron if you think less power means weaker games cant be on the platform. It just means they will run worse on the weaker platforms because they will always use the more powerful one as a base.

Games dont need high budgets or meet certain points, there was never an imaginary requirement. As such, the Switch won't inspire Switch except longer waiting periods between games because Nintendo develops at a snail's pace.

What have I said that represents delusion? Look at facts for a bit and come back to me.

>he thinks the average gamer plays on pc

The average gamer just wants a plug and play experience sitting comfortable in a couch playing in front of a big screen.

PS4 and xBone gives you that experience with the normiecore games like FIFA, GTA, CoD, RDR, Battlefront, TES, Destiny, etc

Switch doesnt.

Guess who will succeed in the market.

And then there were no more exclusives after that year

fuck off Vitagen

This meme is getting stale. Nintendo platforms never complimented PC, not since the SNES days at best.

>Guess who will succeed in the market.

PS4 and Switch.

>The average gamer
Nigger don't be talking like you know what the average gamer wants

Why would I care about the average gamer? If PC/Switch covers all my bases, then that's the best pair to have.

>Board constanlty shits on western made games
>All of a sudden it's bad that Switch isn't getting Star Wars shit.

What will it take for this type of shitposting to end?

>Not only that, it will likely have a longer life cycle AND more games

What are you talking about? Killzone mercs was release 2013, year 2. Freedom Wars was year 3. It still got support, and still is. Why are you making up shit for the sake of making the Switch look better?

Why can't you argue facts?

>stuff that will never leave Japan
At least half its exclusives are import titles, and also includes tons of tiny indie games, digital-only games and, again, VNs. If we're stretching that far, may as well include stuff like Darts Up when we're talking about exclusive Wii U support.

>gematsu.com/exclusives/ps-vita

And do you have any actual numbers for its first year? This just lists everything. I didn't say Vita didn't have tons of support, I said most of it is ports and imports, which is true. Why are Vita owners so eager to shit all over every other platform and insist the Vita is better?

I keep changing my mind. Sorry.

LOL

I find it hilarious that this will ultimately be true.

Yea I can't wait to play AAA titles on 15 fps!

Because if the average gamer doesnt care about the Switch it will have shit sales just like WiiU.

Switch isnt bad because it isnt getting Star Wars.

Switch will end up selling like crap because it will lack key multiplat 3rd party games, and because of that it will lack support from 3rd party developers altogether just like the WiiU.

Literally those were the only other few exclusives Sony made the following years. After Freedom Wars they abandoned it. Now THAT is fact

I'm guessing when Nintendo announces it passed the 20 million threshold in a year.

All I need is for the average Jap gamer to care, because then it'll get all the weeb games. I can play everything else on PC

Most did leave Japan though.
I never sought to shit on the Switch, but saying it will reach Vita levels of support is wrong. The games will just move onto steam and PS4.

I guess that means the 3DS will live longer than both of them

>Caring about exclusives on a Switch thread, where its only relevant title is Zelda, a multiplatform game.

>key multiplat 3rd party games

You don't get it. No one gives a fuck about EA or Ubisoft outside of casuals.

Square-Enix's CEO seems to have a real fetish for the console, probably because it's cheap to develop for and Square is tired of making huge budget games just to only break even.

I thought we were talking about third parties and not exclusives

>Steam and PS4
Nigger devs have already been shoving their weebshit on the Switch, get over it

Oreshika 2 came out after Freedom Wars. They also continued with porting a few games like RE revelations 2.

All in all, it thrives more on third party, and still gets it to this day. I don't believe the Switch will even live up to it.

Hey, I like Rayman

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>All of a sudden it's not about exclusives anymore
Most of the Vita's library are ports, what's your point?

CASUAL GAMERS DEFINE AND SHAPE THE MAKET YOU STUPID MORON.

IF YOU DONT HAVE THE CASUAL SUPPORT YOU DONT SALE HARDWARE, IF YOU DONT SELL HARDWARE SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS WONT BOTHER MAKING OR PORTING GAMES TO YOUR HARDWARE.

The bare minimum.

Japan will, who cares about the rest.

>ports
>literal indie-shit RPG
This is fucking desperate

This.

>Development costs for games aren't increasing
They are though, it just hasn't skyrocketed like marketing. Even adjusted for inflation older games don't typically have budgets as high as what we have now. AAA games from third parties almost always push for photo-realistic visuals, full voice acting, celebrity/actor motion capture, etc. and that's where it gets expensive and where most of the development budget seems to go these days, because its certainly not going to actual game design.

AAA publishers won't support a Nintendo platform in a big way with their AAA games regardless of how powerful it is, that's the point you seemed to have missed entirely. Nintendo pushing for expensive hardware won't help them and it won't help their platform get more support.

The Switch is reportedly very easy to work with anyway. If Nintendo can prove there's an audience for other games on its platform while AAA development continues to get more expensive while its potential audience on the other consoles shrinks, third parties might start looking into smaller-scale development again. Nintendo doesn't need to make a third near-identical x86 shitbox to stay relevant.

>Switch replaces the Vita as the weeb machine of choice.

eh, i'm okay with this. But somebody needs to convince Sega to put Saturn games on it.

Prove it

>but saying it will reach Vita levels of support is wrong.
It's already at Vita levels of support. Japan is slowly announcing more and more games for the Switch. All we're missing is a true Monster Hunter to get the ball really rolling.

>In it's first month on market
Sounds like someone is in denial

>How much longer until we see the big third parties of this gen start coming to the switch?
Never. If the Switch can't run Overwatch it definitely won't be getting the big multiplat games.

How is it indie? Its made by studio japan.

You are seriously holding double standards right now.

Look at the list I linked. At least half are listed as import, meaning Japan-only. Almost every retail exclusive is an import. Most exclusives did not leave Japan.

This is apparently a powerful meme, since it gets reposted so often

But it isnt? It still has less games planned this year than the Vita.

Nintendo fans don't care about EA or Call of Duty or whatever other western shit you want to pretend is good. Stop replying to me, retard.

As someone who loves both my Vita and Switch, it is awful seeing you people tear at each other's throats in this thread.

Nintendo fans are the only ones that bought the turd that is the WiiU and it failed.

You cant succeed in the videogame market without the support of the normie audience.

And it was only released physically in Japan
Sounds like indie shit to me

Its the powerful truth. You fags are delusional if you think the Switch will be getting games like FF7 remake or RDR2

There are plenty of devs that refused to touch the wii despite it being a license to print money.

Devs are stupid when it comes to hardware not being able to handle their vanity projects exactly the way they want them to.

I guess we'll see

I think its funny people see the Vita as the Switch competitor.

You linked an arbitrary list user, im not shifting through it for the sake of it. Pound for pound, the Switch will never reach the support close to what the Vita has, I don't see how support means 'exclusive' since the Switch is only getting one exclusive for this entire year.

It has over 20 weebshit games in development, and those are just the ones using UE4

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