ITT: unpopular opinions

ITT: unpopular opinions

Max Payne 2 is vastly superior to Max Payne 1.

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I didn't think that was an unpopular opinion at all OP

Granted I was 14 when I last played them

I agree, it has more character and soul in it. though atmosphere is lacking that winter NY vibe

Max Payne 3 beats the shit out of them both

I prefer Max Payne 3 over 2 But 1 is still my favorite because of the script and atmosphere

Horizon: Zero Dawn is a good game.

more like "things nobody really gives a fuck about"

MP2 is a fine game, but feels awfully forced sequel when it comes to the story. It also is the first, minor step towards "hard boiled" grim-darkness in the series, even if there's still a bit of that

Mass Effect 3 was the best game in the trilogy.

>even if there's still a bit of that Remedy humor in the mix
FTFM

Do you mean it has less humor and is more serious than the first one? I think it makes sense since the first one was made on a small budget (hence the ridiculous comic panels, they had the dev team pose for them), the second one had a bigger budget, so some of the ridiculousness was gone.

The only people that think the first game is better than 2 are Max Payne 3 retards who only played Max Payne 1 when they were kids and never played Max Payne 2 at all

Or people who value the much better implementation of slow mo, more well balanced difficulty and much better level design. Not to mention the more comedic, cheesy tone that made 1 a blast unlike 2 which is up its own ass and melodramatic to the point where it gets obnoxious.

>Do you mean it has less humor and is more serious than the first one?
Yes. There's still some in there, but the whole mood is endless poker face now.

>I think it makes sense since the first one was made on a small budge
true, but that does not explain the total shift in tone. Same guy wrote it, same guys developed it, same VAs even. Only the game model & comic actors were professionals this time around.

It's more likely related to the fact that even the devs themselves admitted ages ago: they wrote themselves into a dead-end with MP1 already, killing so much of the major characters. Thus, they had to magically revive a handful of them, turn one of them into a villain, and shuffle around the character cards & their traits in general, just to get some sort of working plot.

It's especially a shame that they had to turn Max into such stick in a butt sad-Keanu face. He clearly had lost some bolts in MP1, but ended getting "bit closer to heaven" in the end. Then in the sequel, he's a tired as fuck desk job detective, being bossed and played around by everyone (again)? Yet he once again seems to find his peace with the death of his loved ones.

And in the NEXT sequel, not done by Remedy at that, he's a drunkard emo bitch, who just decides to man up by going to HUEHUE land to shoot HUEs? Just what the hell people!

Wrong.
I have ONLY played MP1 and 2, both at mature age & just replayed both couple years ago, and I still prefer MP1.

max has a dumb looking face in 2 though, so 1 will always be superior.

forgot pic

>2 which is up its own ass and melodramatic to the point where it gets obnoxious.

MP2 is still very much self-aware. Though it's more like Sin City in a sense that it's telling a serious story while being over the top as opposed to the original game's similarity to John Woo movies.

I liked Max Payne 2 a lot more than the original game as well. Back then I found the ragdoll physics absolutely amazing and reloaded my save countless times to make enemies die in the most ridiculous ways.

Gameplay wise I prefer Max Payne 3. The gunplay feels amazing, but it's a shame that there are so many long and unstoppable cutscenes that constantly pull you out. That game also had the best soundtrack.

Max Payne 1 was the best in terms of story, though.

>>unlike 2 which is up its own ass and melodramatic to the point where it gets obnoxious.
>Max screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" in a melodramatic fashion

I love Max Payne 1, but Max Payne 1 is as melodramatic and up its own ass obnoxious by your own retarded logic

I feel like you don't remember the Dick Justice or Address Unknown portions of Max Payne 2

Okay, do people seriously like this corny face or is it just nostalgia?

One scene near the very beginning that establishes his motivation and character is different than having the entire focus of a game be MUH MONA, at the expense of the rest of the story. MP1 has you slowly uncovering a massive conspiracy all while getting blasted with norse mythology and the occult which all ties into the plot and setting very well. 2 is about a fucking gang war.

>ONE (1) scene in original game, in which the MC spends rest of the story being a smug-faced one-liner machine, beating thugs left and right
>versus endless "I couldn't save her!" & "I was a villain all a long!" in the sequel

what i didnt like about payne 3 was, that you had to use ironsight to shoot. all games are great though.

Well as somebody who did play Max Payne 1 as a kid and have a LOT of nostalgia for it: Max Payne 2 is without question the better game

>2 is about a fucking gang war.

It's a murder mystery you dumbass - a staple of the noir genre.

Hedgehog-in-the-ass face is THE most iconic and badass smug you can have.

Perfectly capsulates the game's "Dunno if this is payne or pleasure" -feel.

it's part of the charm i think, when max payne 2 came out i was weirded out by the drastic changes.. never really came to terms with it.

Haven't played 2, but 1 had an oppressingly dark atmosphere to it, like you were trapped in a nightmare of the city. Maybe I was just a kid when I played it.

>ALEX
>ALEEEEEEEEEEX
>I could tell he was dead by the cold accusing expression in his eyes

We can go all day.

So is Max Payne 1, except it manages to have so much more to the plot instead of sacrificing it all for the sake of romance.

>having the entire focus of a game be MUH MONA, at the expense of the rest of the story

Well, the MUH MONA thing is really the story, it's even spelled out on the box art.

I always thought MP2 was more of a character study and the mystery stuff came second.

i think 1 had a more consistent tone, i fucking hated that part in 2 where you had to protect the clown or whatever.

You really can't lol

>Oh no! I was tricked by Max Payne 2! I wanted a game about evil corporations! Not a murder mystery!

It says what it is on the fucking box you idiot

That was pretty cool too bad I suck

Where did I say the game tricked me you fuckin mong? I'm saying that I don't like the melodramatic direction it took compared to the first game.

I liked MP2 to MP1 since MP2 had far less gimmick sequences than MP1. MP1 had those slow ass levels where you need to walk that thin line inside Max's head, or stumble through hallucinations for a while or whatever. MP2 had two, maybe three levels total that had that shit, the rest of the time you just had good bullettime action.

Just like you, I've been preferring Max Payne 2 ever since it came out. In time I've heard my opinion mirrored so many times that it's become quite clear that this is not an unpopular opinion at all. In fact, if you told me that most people prefer 2, I'd believe you.

Here are some unpopular opinions:

- Nintendo games are uninspired crap.
- There is not a single good 3rd person platformer out there. The only people who enjoy this stillborn genre are youngfags who grew up with 3d platformers, not knowing any better at a tender age.
- Overwatch is just fine. It's convenient how only low ranked shitters hate the game, isn't it?
- Quake Champions may just turn out alright.
- Half Life 2 is severely overrated and not nearly as good as the first game was.

Well MP2 had the police office, haunted house, a sniper section, a damn escort quest in addition to the same number of nightmare sequences as 1 had.

I prefer the new Sam Fisher from Blacklist to Ironside's Sam. And yes, I've played all previous games.

People on Sup Forums are extremists with no idea what makes a game actually good. Was in a thread where someone was calling MGS V graphics absolute dogshit when I find them perfectly passable, even more so after considering what I used to play with and seeing how far games have come. If most games looked as good as MGS V does, if they wanted a semi-realistic look, I could be happy for a long time.

It's either "this things is good, I guess" because no one has a spine to really let loose how much they love something here, or "its absolute dogshit, this is literally the worst thing I have seen and you're cancer if you think otherwise." because its a pissing match to prove just how patrician you are by hating things.

Nobody wants to have fun anymore.

>It's convenient how only low ranked shitters hate the game, isn't it?
Well what's the alternative, masochists who don't value their time at all so they spend it playing games they hate?

Quick question
Should I get MP3? I have some cash and I dont know if to get the first 2 MPs plus another game or get the trilogy

i was an edge teenager when i played Max Payne 1 and 2 so i cant judge them
i only know i fucking worship those games

>Was in a thread where someone was calling MGS V graphics absolute dogshit

That's fucking stupid, it's a great looking game.

>police office,
Second half is fighting your way out.
>haunted house,
On the plus side, you can go as fast as you like and you'll be fighting your way back through.
>a sniper section, a damn escort quest
The worst part about MP2, though not all that more annoying than the sniper section in MP1.
>to the same number of nightmare sequences as 1 had.
Most of the sequences in MP2 were skippable cutscenes. Most of the sequences in MP1 were actual levels you had to run through. I'll stick with 2.

>look up a playthrough just now
>he's narrating like he's reading a poem

max payne 3 is too new so its obviously the worst game of the seres

mp3 should be cheap as shit by now and it's pretty fun all things considered. Yeah, pick it up

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Why is it so impossible to draw the line between "I am shit at the game" and "the game is shit". What's with this narcissist garbage? Why do only people who are good at the game and like it have actual constructive criticism about it while those who hate it spout completely inane crap?

>>The worst part about MP2, though not all that more annoying than the sniper section in MP1.
in MP1 you didtn have to snipe super fast because of someone else getting shot up

>Most of the sequences in MP2 were skippable cutscenes
There's like 3 or so that are levels, and they're about as long as the stuff in MP1 although you can't fail them so that alleviates it a bit. Also MP2 has a lot of levels that feel way too big, open and empty for their own good, like the apartments for example. 1's levels are more densely packed usually

DmC is a far far better game than DmC 1 2 3 and 4.

DmC 1 is a shittier resident evil witw awful camera, nothing needs to be said about 2, 3 is actually good but not as good as DmC reboot and 4 is dragged down by Nero

Fight me. Every single person that says that DmC reboot is shit should be shot in the street

MP3 is both the best MP game and the best Rockstar game.

Dante's Inferno was far better than any GoW.

Get the whole thing. It's a great game even though some think it didn't really have the Max Payne feel.

3 is not a Max Payne game

Because those who hate it typically don't want make minor tweaks while preserving the core, they hate what the game is and don't want anything to do with it. Which is why any criticism they have will be seen as inane by players of the games. There's really nothing suspicious about this situation, and it doesn't necessarily mean that the players hate the games because they're bad at them. In fact usually they're bad at the games precisely because they hate them because again, the alternative would be masochistic.

Puc releated is as good if not better than the original

Really had to dig deep for that one eh

MGSV looked great. The art direction and the animation was a cut above the majority of "realistic" games in the past few years.

>People on Sup Forums are extremists with no idea what makes a game actually good.

I agree with the whole of your post but that particular statement is accurate as fuck.

Sup Forums also likes to talk as if they know exactly what makes a game good. For example, if DOOM 2016 never happened and a Sup Forumsirgin was tasked with directing/overseeing a new DOOM game instead of the one that released, there's a 90% chance they'd fuck it up.

I won't deny there's a lot of trash in the AAA industry today, but the majority of Sup Forumsirgins are incapable of making something worthwhile even if given the opportunity.

Automata is the most overrated game ever made and the protagonists were utter garbage.

Girlpucci>>>>>>>boipucci

I thought MGSV was a fun game, as I've literally never understood an MGS plot anyway.

Sup Forums will fucking crucify me for this.

>strip all the snark and wit from the original character and do a very safe, family friendly "bright-eyed kid who just wants to be a hero" trope

Game looked pretty though.

>Gameplay wise I prefer Max Payne 3. The gunplay feels amazing,
THIS.
But 3 gun limit kills this

DELETE THIS

Fuck you.

>this is an unpopular opinion
What seriously went wrong? I thought Sup Forums was supposed to save us from degeneracy but they didn't do a damn thing

Surprisingly, I agree with all of these opinions. Especially HL2.

MGS V looked great, played great, ran great, sounded great, and was just overall very good. It's biggest drawback was making its open world too big, and thus making the story feel a little too disjointed. If they had reeled in the world and story, it would have easily been a solid, nearly perfect game.

Nobody on Sup Forums should be trusted with creative control over any game, seeing as how intensely vitriolic they are about such tiny matters. Sometimes to move forward, you just have to accept where something falls short and try to mitigate it by improving the areas you know are already extremely strong by themselves.

Gameplay is the best in the series.

Writing is some of the worst. Doctor Nefarious should have at most been a cameo, him randomly becoming the main villain right at the end for no reason was awful.

Not much content either, no arena, most weapons are just recycled from CiT and ToD, half the levels from the original are missing. It was a disappointment, the core gameplay is great but it still managed to feel completely uninspired and dull. At least since it sold well there's a chance we'll get an actually good entry next.

1 and 2 have similar difficultly and design, but one has a better story and atmosphere. Also, 2 has weird scale issues where Max looks 4 feet tall now and then. I also really love the textures in the first game, and the lack of pointless, crappy romantic side plots.

First Max is best Max but they're all really good.

>that level in 2 where you have to escort Vinnie Gognitti in a Captain Baseball Bat Boy costume

Oh yeah and I forgot to mention, the performance was dogshit. I miss the days when Insomniac pulled of all kinds of hardware specific hacks to get their games running smoothly at all times. There's a reason their PS2 games emulate poorly to this day, because they put tons of effort into getting them running as smoothly as possible.

Age of Empires Online was a good game
If it was under any other company than EA and restricted by GFWL, it would still be blooming.

The Wii has a better library than the Wii U

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I don't think that's an unpopular opinion.

MGSV's gameplay was stellar. In the aspect of gameplay the level design was a step down from Ground Zeroes (I'd imagine because time was cut short for development and it was rushed to release) but other than that the gameplay was great.

Everything else, namely the story/writing and what it was supposed to be about, is another thing.

Max Payne 1 was fucking nightmare fuel for me as a kid
The fucking dead kid in the cradle, the mother's screams and the black void where you follow the trail of blood

Still gives me shivers whenever I hear the Theme song of the game playing

>4 million replies
>still no IT'S PAIN
IT'S PAIN!

Get the trilogy.
Play them in order so that you don't want to vomit when you play MP1.

I'm fine with you preferring either as long as you don't think 3 is good

I agree. Max Payne 2 gameplay is so damn good.

WHACK HIM
HOLD IT

MP2 had best TV shows
I would watch the shit out of Address Unknown

Fallout: New Vegas, while mechanically better than Fo3, is overall a boring pile of shit. I sunk 152hrs into it because everyone said it was pure gold. In all those hours it never stopped feeling like work.

I really liked Lords and Ladies in the first game, but two had more variety.

Mafia 1 was just okay

The first Witcher was the best

Thief has aged poorly and the second is vastly better

System Shock 2 is antiquated in a bad way

The story itself was pretty shit but some of the story sequences were really good I thought. Like the second parasite outbreak or exploring the facility in Africa that's covered in blood and corpses.

Paz's sections were really good too.

HEYA

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DICK JUSTICE

Maybe you just stopped liking Bethesda-style open world RPGs. There's literally nothing FO3 does better than FONV.

>Thief has aged poorly and the second is vastly better
That's only an unpopular opinion on Sup Forums. Most of the internet shits on Thief Gold, but there is an argument to be made that it had some of the best atmosphere in the series with its horror-themed levels. Thief 2 is a much more consistently fun game though.

>System Shock 2 is antiquated in a bad way
I agree sort of. I hate the RPG elements in SS2 but the level design and sound design are top notch. I think SS1 actually holds up better than SS2 as long as you play with mouselook.

exploring D.C. is an experience unmatched in New Vegas.

Overall, New Vegas is better, but yeah, 3 has some worthwhile stuff just the same.

>Sometimes to move forward, you just have to accept where something falls short and try to mitigate it by improving the areas you know are already extremely strong by themselves.

This really hit home.
I'm writing the story for a long term project that's supposed to be in the spirit of classic MGS and I'm being ridiculously picky if not damn near "autistic" about the dialogue and plot.
I've ditched at least 20 drafts over the course of almost 2 years, because not only am I worried about how people will think of it, but especially if Sup Forums were to think of it. I've got interesting ideas for gameplay, but the writing/plot is dragging me down. Maybe the gameplay will give some writing choices a pass if they become an issue.

Sorry for the blog.

>exploring the facility in Africa that's covered in blood and corpses.

That was one of my favorite missions.

The whole game needed another year in the oven, but I'm glad it came out and didn't become a Megaman Legends 3 or something.

Exploring DC was mediocre as fuck. Invisible walls all over the place, everything instanced away into tiny one block chunks that you have to trek through endless identical metro tunnels to get to.

The only thing I really liked about FO3 was that it was made by a company from Maryland so they really put some effort into making some of the areas feel authentic. The metro tunnels are boring as fuck but they are 100% accurate representations of the DC metro.

That's because you're a casual.

Bloodborne's weapon gimmicks aren't as interesting or useful one hour into the game.

If you care a tiniest bit about what Sup Forums of all places thinks, I think you may not be suitable material for a writer. Anyone capable of even entry level writing would recognize what a bunch of retards we've got here.

In fact, dude, if you are writing for Sup Forums you should be glad. I think it would be very easy to pander to this crowd.