Pretty much, you play an agent of the devil out to murder the forces of good in as painful ways as possible...

Pretty much, you play an agent of the devil out to murder the forces of good in as painful ways as possible, while dressed like a prostitute. I'm not really sure if you can make a game that actually glorifies evil more than this, and while I'm not religious, I can't really see why anyone would want to play a Satanic character. I mean.. Quinn Dexter's a nice antagonist in The Night's Dawn trilogy, but is he really a hero you want to aid in his ultimate goal?

Now. I realize "it's just a game". Is that enough of a reason not to care? Rapelay was also a game, but that didn't really make it "okay". And Fitna is "just" a short film, right?

I guess I'm just wondering if I'm overreacting by being irritated and slightly offended by the themes of this game. I haven't played it after all, though I've read up on it as much as I can. I like the genre, Heavenly Sword for instance. And secondly, if mutilation and torture is considered respectable gaming now, is there anything left that it's actually allowed to be offended over anymore? Or is it only okay to be offended by people being offended?

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No one should ever be offended by anything other than a direct attack on themselves.

Cry some more.

>"it's just a game". Is that enough of a reason not to care?
yes

t. person with no serious convictions. Do you care about anything at all?

As someone who was born and baptized Lutheran, I know what you mean. It makes me very uneasy that someone would make something like this but you have to look at things from the point of view of people that are foreign to the Abrahamic religions (Japs). They have the ability to see both the light and dark elements without being biased to seeing one as particularly "good" but, rather, as just opposing forces.

Not only that, but the game that it shamelessly copies was already about fighting demons. I guess Kamiya went out of his way to do the opposite.

The Demons are just as nasty as the Angels. Both require humans to maintain the balance and the cosmic order.

The themes are more of a reflection of hypocritical or pious institutions that put on a pretty smile for the cameras but actually harm the world overall. Bayonetta is a rebellious symbol against the evil that's cloaked in a heavenly appearance.

I actually don't.

>I'm not religious, but

>it's a thinly veiled religion thread
no thanks. god is as fictional as bayonetta

>I can't really see why anyone would want to play a Satanic character.
It makes perfect sense if you have read the book of revelation.
In the future God will start exterminating humanity since they will stop following him, but all of the angels won't be on board with the idea so 1/3 of the angels will turn on God and fight for humanity, and Satan is one of those angels.

Go to bed Morty.

Humans live in paradise like it was heaven while going to hell is really, REALLY bad.

honestly, the battle of sages vs witches got out of hand but angels are clearly in the right.

>Or is it only okay to be offended by people being offended?
stopped reading there

What shithole did you copypaste this from?

I have been brought up on religion my whole life mom and dad were both Sunday school teachers, I see the church/bible as more of a set of guidelines to follow to be a decent human being and it helps bring the community together. I love Bayonetta and Darksiders you do murder angels but you have to learn how to disconnect yourself because those are not the angels in the good book my friend.

>I can't really see why anyone would want to play a Satanic character.

Maybe it's as simple as "the gameplay is fun and the character's ideology didn't really come into play in one deciding to play the game"
Maybe it's the less likely "Just to see what happens in game without having to commit to these ideals myself'"?

She's dressed like a dominatrix, not a prostitute.

Otherwise... I don't know, I find it hard to be offended by a game this silly and comical.

I think you might've missed the part where the "forces of good" are horrifying monsters that don't give a flying fuck about human life and currently support the efforts of a possessed dictator to resurrect and control the powers of the biblical god in order to destroy the universe and reshape it in his image

>agent of the devil
Bayonetta's powers stem from a pact with a moon demon, the entire religious order of her fictional world is askew from ours even if it plagiarizes heavily.
>Now. I realize "it's just a game". Is that enough of a reason not to care?
If it isn't, what does it being "just a game" even matter? Of course it is.
>I like the genre, Heavenly Sword for instance
The only thing here that made me mad. Now I hope this is pasta.

it's not about evil vs good, it's about demons vs angels, in a world where one isn't necessarily evil and the other isn't necessarily good. It's just different sides of a war

>those are not the angels in the good book my friend
Actually, Bayo angels are probably the most faithful modern depiction of biblical angels bar none.

>I like the genre
>Heavenly Sword for instance

Hello Neogaf

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>I haven't played it after all
wow it's nothing

>I haven't played it after all
why did anyone reply to this

In this word the angels are bad, not good. They're trying to destroy the universe to reshape it. Bayonetta is the good guy trying to save the world. The angels are the evil ones. They're also bizarre biomechanical monstrosities

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Is depicting things from the bible and rewriting them to sell a product considered blasphemous? Does everyone who contributed to the creation of bayonetta go to hell?

>Rapelay was also a game, but that didn't really make it "okay"

>Implying that the Japanese take Christianity any more seriously than they take Zeus, Ra, or any of the other non-Abrahamic religions.

Obviously, Shinto Buddhism is the only true religion and other religions are just myths. The Japanese are just too polite to say so.

I dunno about demons. Angels kill humans but angels give humans a paradise for eternity while demons don't appear on earth in the first game and barely in the second game, but if you go to hell, prepare to get torture for all eternity.

>Witches are bad
>Sages are good

Jesus, play the game and you would know it are just 2 different forces shitposting their religion, like you are now.

Really, the angels in the Bible are usually depicted as beautiful/flawless beings least in KJV

You're stuck in the 90s, Mr. Thompson. The hip thing to get triggered over now is white males, not religion.

Nips view Christianity like the West views Greek mythology.
It's weird looking from outside.

>why anyone would want to play a Satanic character.

Because sometimes God's a dick or made your daughter cry and he needs a good punch to the face.

Angels really aren't "bad" guys in Bayo's universe as they help and protect the faithful. But they definitely aren't super benevolent either. They are supporting Balder, a man who is posessed by Aesir to get his hands on the Eyes of the World to reshape the universe. That is the main crux of the story, the "angels vs demons" thing is not really the focul point.

Okay dummies, check these tasty memes from the OP:
>Quinn Dexter's a nice antagonist in The Night's Dawn
>I haven't played it after all
>I like the genre, Heavenly Sword for instance

This is the most fucking obvious bait I've ever seen. stop replying to this cancer

Please kill yourself.

They're Japanese so yeah

>the angels in the Bible are usually depicted as beautiful/flawless beings
Not even remotely.

The majority of descriptions come from the book of Ezekial (that's where the wheel within a wheel came from), other depictions tend to be things like "so giant and bright we could not look upon it with eyes like lightning and a voice like thunder"

Angels are scary otherworldly shit in the bible, at no point does a religious text depict angels as human-like in any capacity unless they're explicitly disguised as humans (sodom and gomorrah)

The idea that angels look like perfect humans with wings and cherubs flying around with trumpets and shit was a renaissance art thing and has absolutely dick to do with the bible.

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god doesn't exist

Short haired Bayonetta is best.

Prove it

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>Angels
>Like gamorrah
user, gamorrah is the demon Bayonetta summons when she shouts "Avacado"

Orthodox here. It's satire based of late medieval, early renaissance writings and vague Euro-lore with Japanese stylistic touches and tropes. I don't mind it, as it hardly actually lashes out at anyone and the game is pretty blatant about the fact that Bayo herself, as well as the witches, are not the good guys.

prove he does

hey, god if you exist, smite me down with lightning right now or you're a massive faggot

.....oh look at that

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

Not an argument

Avavago

Hey look its someone who takes everything at face level and bitches about it because they are autistic

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How does it feel? Being 14 I mean?

Has christcenteredgaming do e a review for this yet?

Bayonetta's original success was almost entirely based off of the almost hilarious amount of blatant sexualization that the game puts Bayonetta through and most of it's fans on release were teenagers and young adults who were/are high off hormones.

Bayonetta, the game itself and the character, is just a blatant rip-off and rehash of DMC4 which Kamiya pretty much admitted himself.

The story itself makes no sense with giant plot holes left and right. What little themes there are in the game aren't really stated or brought forth because the game is either too busy throwing wave after wave of enemies at you while constantly shoving needlessly provacative words and poses at you and at the end of the day people on Sup Forums and other forums with contrarian values will say the game is a classic and an epic piece of gaming but in reality it's literally just sexual pandering to an immature and uneducated crowd with little to no depth or servitude beyond being literally a few pixels away from being a glorified porn game.

DMC4 was the last real hack-and-slash game with actual depth and character. I'm not going to say that the story was anything to gawk at but at least it made sense within it's own universe and the characters were well-defined enough to understand them.

Oh and the combat had some actual fucking depth to it instead of Bayonetta's literal "Dodge at least 50 attacks in a battle or you're not getting your max rank lul."

At the end of the day Bayonetta's "success" and popularity is a prime example as to why the Japanese and gaming culture in general is having problems with women mostly being either shallow and hallow or just not wanting to associate with the other sex.

Honestly, put yourself in the shoes of a women for a moment and then ask yourself whether or not you would want to date a person who not only enjoys the outright objectification and sexualization of your identity but also outright praises it as a good trait.

angels are faries that protect rich white people.

Keyword RICH . Before you trump fags get triggered.

God is actually the Demiurge and demons are disguised as Angels.
So they really aren't the forces of good if they keep you trapped within the material realm, which is ever so painful and sinful. A good God would never curse us in the manner we have been since our recycled physical birth.

Why are you commenting on it if you don't even know a thing about the conetext? Witches and Sages are needed to keep the balance of angels and demons or else there would be all out war which would most likely end all of humanity like Balder was trying to do.

mate god is made up

>DMC4
>half a game
>Nero is literally a overly long tutorial

Asshurt sjw detected

you're probably the biggest faggot on this board right now. then again this is probably much better than making WE WON PC BROS-thread that we've been having these couple of days.

kill yourself.

Nero, despite being a tutorial character, has more depth than Bayo did in her entire game.

You literally made the same thread about Persona 5 not long ago.

Hindu-buddhism or straight up hinduism is more devious than that. They basically say "Yeah, your god exists but He's actually just an avatar of one of our Gods, here's the greatest of Gods who your god is subservient to!"

They don't deny it, they just insert it right into their own mythos like sleazy fanfic writers.

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Take your Reddit & Memey bullshit somewhere else.

I'm pretty positive it's Avacado. And then she says Avacado Nectar and giant dog fists come out to poorly play basketball with golems. Or she says "assassin piano" and spiders come out

Christianity does the same thing with Judaism, and Islam with Christianity.

>denying he who should be killed
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as God, is in fact, Demiurge/Creator.
We must kill him (or transcend his realm) to rejoice with the true eternal God, who does not beget, who is not begotten.
Atheists are still probably a less dangerous enemy than the Demiurgic enablers, either way we all have to go.

Nice fucking spoilers you asshole

God does what he wants, not what you want
You'll get your share of the fire don't worry

Why have you seen the episode?

It does condemn the other sects though as heretical.

M80 it's one gigantic parody of Dante's divine comedy. They made god a woman... a woman. Don't take it too seriously. It's just supposed to make you smile while you summon giant demons and get naked.

The politest bait i ever did see.

So you're saying Bayonetta did the right thing when she punched jubileous' soul into the sun

Oh, that makes it better. That way more people get to go to hell.

mate if I was sent to hell, I'd be able to live my doom fantasies so bring it on

This has to be pasta

Reliable senses would never return to you the information that they're not in fact reliable.
Us being aware of the shortcomings of our senses is proof that we are being deceived in some way, at least in a different way than we perceive.

The next Bayonetta game should have her killing shit from Mudshit mythos. The end boss is Muhammad

what fucking idiot wrote that
like, if you don't want to play a satanic character, don't
i'll be at my ritual blood orgies having fun while you copypaste tumblr posts

>the forces of good
stopped reading there, bait or never played the game.

>Christianity
>not a mudshit mythos

kek

I'm pretty sure someone that played the game and understood the story already said this in the thread, you don't even need to be a fan, playing the game is enough to know that what you are saying is absolutely wrong.

In the Bayonetta universe and lore, there is no good and evil, only interests and beliefs. Angels are basically the same as the demons but most of them are intelligent creatures instead of just beasts. In Bayonetta the angels are trying to awake Jubileus, a goddess that will reunite the Trinity of Realities and make Paradiso(the angel race) rule the universe. Want more? Well, in Bayonetta 2 angels and demons works TOGETHER in the end to stop bayonetta from reaching the main villain of the story.

Go play the game before talking shit.

You wouldn't happen to be the "REEEEEEE STOP USING RELIGIOUS SYMBOLISM" guy in the Persona/SMT threads yesterday, would you?

lmao you guys seem really cool
like i bet you have huge dicks and dress real cool and only listen to field recordings of icelandic moss

Actually had the same kind of thoughts about smtIV A end boss

Definitely, but we must go further, we need to transcend life and death so there is none left.

>people on Sup Forums are actually contrarian enough to pretend that rick and morty isn't the greatest thing to happen to the american entertainment industry in 50 years, surpassing even the original simpsons

I want to cum on Bayonetta's exposed back.

>i'm not religious
So why do they care about fictional shit? That's like saying you don't want to play chaos in warhammer because they're 'evil'.