DaS2 h8 thread

hbomberguy
>I died a lot while estusing in DaS1, and I don’t like that you can run out of healing items, so it’s good that you have infinite, instant-use heals in DaS2
>I like souls PVP and the best boss fights in DaS1 were O&S and Artorias, so therefore all bosses should be shittier versions of those with no variation. Also I’m going to completely ignore all the shittiest humanoid fights like smelter demon, 2melter demon, nashandra, and double dragonriders because it doesn’t fit my narrative
>I’m assblasted matthewmatosis has more subs than me, I deserve all of them because I don’t lock on to enemies
>enemies spinning 360 degrees to hit you is fine, just git gud xDD
>going through blighttown backwards all the way to the depths, something which no human has ever done, is hard if you haven’t killed the toxic guys yet. This is my only example of why all levels should just be completely straight lines that lead to a warp back to the hub like in DaS2
>how is it a bad thing that my game about exploration just dumps you in random, nonsensical areas Mario 64-style instead of having a coherent world like Dark Souls 1?
>DaS2 let’s you pick where to fight enemies, while DaS1 doesn’t.” DaS2’s story is better than DaS1’s because it’s almost identical in structure but self-aware about it. Also the lore is less coherent, but I’m pretending that’s a good thing because muh memory loss
>I’m so much smarter than Matthewmatosis (who I want people to stop paying attention to, did I mention that? Now watch as I talk about him 20 more times) because I know grandmas spinning thread represent the Fates from Greek mythology, now watch me actually defend the PREPARE TO DIE (trademarked) OVER AND OVER LMAO intro

neo/v/
>BRAVO, MATTHEWMATOSIS BTFO. DASFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH. DAS2 IS CONFIRMED GOTYAY.

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I liked bloodborne and when I saw his video I decided to give it a watch.

I closed it because he acted too much like a prick and came off as really arrogant.

It's a shame because his FO3 video is pretty good tear down of everything wrong with that game, but all the rest of his videos are total trash and weirdly political

Same here

Seriously?
a literal army of nerd losers defending/attacking one person of youtube simply because they said something about a game

like 1 guy, a political cuckold according to his other videos is getting this much talk about him

seriously Sup Forums you are elevating this cuck boy for a pretty pathetic reason

Souls is Sup Forums's favorite series and there's no other souls news, what did you expect? The mathewmatosis video fueled a shitposting fire that's been burning hot for 3 years straight, so I hope you're not expecting this to go away anytime soon

I never bought the game because I saw the equipment damage being tied to FPS as a bad sign.

>making an entire video to defend a game

And people say it's not the contrarion choice.

only souls community is autistic enough to throw shit at each other about a long dead and buried, obviously rushed game

I hate his point about Artorias fighting on the same terms as the player. That's a load of horse shit, Artorias is faster, stronger, and far more oppressive than the player can even hope to be. Artorias doesn't block, or heal. He flies across the arena and quadruple flip slams you into the dirt and then fucks your wife. The only thing Artorias does that the player also does is dodge roll.
And here's the thing, the fight is still good!

worst thing about that video is that Matthew himself said that DaS2 is a great game and GOTY the year it came out.

The video was a critique, not a review. A critique means to point out the flaws exclusively. Many people treated the video as a review.

It's almost like hbomberguy has a terrible taste in games or maybe, maybe he is just being controversial on purpose to fish for subs.

its like over an hour long too god damn DaS2-apologists are pathetic

>hbomberguy
WHO?
>matthewmatosis
WHO?

>>hbomberguy
>WHO?
some contrarian cuck
>>matthewmatosis
>WHO?
/our guy/

>Souls is Sup Forums's favorite series

it's because he's a goon

>Souls is Sup Forums's favorite series

>going through blighttown backwards all the way to the depths, something which no human has ever done, is hard if you haven’t killed the toxic guys yet. This is my only example of why all levels should just be completely straight lines that lead to a warp back to the hub like in DaS2
You misunderstood his point. He's saying that they had to compromise and make inferior levels in Dark Souls 1 to make up for the fact that one will potentially travel through them in both directions, due to no warping. Thus, the toxic guys COULDN'T have been respawning, which would have been better and more interesting, because they couldn't design the level in such a way that would allow you to walk back and avoid them at the same time.

The only two levels in the game which are decent in any way are Sen's Fortress and Anor Londo, because you only go through them one way before you unlock the Lordvessel, and never have to walk back through them, so they were designed without caring about backwards travel.

I'd say it beats MGS in terms of sheer number of threads per day, and that's the only other one that comes to mind

Okay Hbomberguy sounds like a guy that needs 1 hour to tell your something that could be said in 5 minutes all why sniffing his own farts.
Mathrew sounds like a robot, atleast efficient.

This thread is completly unnecessary. Nobody knows these two faggots or cares about their opinions. DS2 is better than 3 and one though.

This guy is a total faggot and has the absolute worst reasons. And I actually prefer Dark Souls 2 to 1 and 3.

In my opinion Dark Souls 2 was fine game but It's the weakest souls game.

>He's saying that they had to compromise and make inferior levels in Dark Souls 1 to make up for the fact that one will potentially travel through them in both directions, due to no warping
And yet still almost every DaS1 level is better and more interesting than the best DaS2 levels
>The only two levels in the game which are decent in any way are Sen's Fortress and Anor Londo
This is b8

It's a damn shame that DS2 first few zones are absolute dogshit. Both forest of fallen giants and especially Hieds tower of flame are both terrible.
It makes replaying them game a damned chore.

Except Blighttown isn't meant to be traveled through backwards. They give you a shortcut on your way out. In fact, I think the undead burg is the only area in the game that is truly designed to be traversed in multiple directions, and I think it does a pretty good job of it.
And, in spite of that, Dark Souls' level of interconnectivity is pretty unique in the world of gaming, and is not something that devs should give up on trying to emulate just because it's easier to design a world like Ds2

The toxic guys don't respawn because they're only interesting to fight if you don't know where they are. That's why their projectile is almost invisible. As soon as you find them and defeat them, it's no longer an interesting challenge. This is why most mini-bosses don't respawn either

I'm the biggest DS2 defender around and think it a lot of ways it's the best in the series. Two (maybe 3 depending on how you count) things are really fucked with it. The lore in the game is fucking horrid. Notice I said lore and not plot because the plot is good, telling the story of how linking the bomb fires or not is meaningless is great. Even the characters are good if we look at them superficially. As soon as you look deeper into the game, past the plot and into the lore that sets up the game, it all falls the fuck apart.

Second big issue is the shitty world interconnection and nonsensical level lay out. Iron Keep being in an impossible locations, Shrine of Want being a thing only to bypass a pile of rocks the bomb fire that is in that two foot deep little well that keeps you from going back once you drop down, shit like that.

Finally the game has to many bomb fires, this could be bundled with the shitty world but i'll roll it out into it's own point.
Besides these issues I think it has the best swordplay, best healing system, best maps, second best bosses.

Pretty interesting. I'm now watching the video by mathe-who and he now talks about the bosses. I did not remember that Dark Souls 2 had so many bosses.
I think I have forgotten almost everything about DS2, good riddance.

Not using the lock on is also not all that enjoyable, it can be more efficient although sometimes even in group fights you are better quickly switching using the lock on, hbomberguy tilts the camera down to hit enemies on the floor which is needlesly complicated just to try and prove his point.

Matthewmatosis' video on this is full of so many errors and outright lies it's insane. You can kill Nashandra in Drangleic, Dark Souls 1 had tons of multiple enemy encounters, Demon's Souls had proportionally more multi enemy bosses, etc etc. I've never understood the hate for the game beyond no interconnected world which no other game in the series does, hitboxes which only Dark Souls 3 had good ones (and yes, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 have horrible hitboxes), and "multiple enemies" aka the only thing that is hard in the levels. Dark Souls 2 is just harder, longer and more fun.

This guy is a complete retard though. Like straight up retarded. He's like a slicker version of MovieBob.

>bomb fire
phoneposter detected
still though, I agree. Ds2 had plenty of mistakes, graphical downgrade being one of them, but it's still a great game.

He makes a lot of fair and correct points but he sounds like an ass when talking about them.

tfw ds2 is my favorite one but everyone hates it ;_;

I played ds1 first too, but I didn't get very far. ds2 had me hooked, though.

I'd wager that about half of the bosses in DS2 could be removed and it wouldn't take away from the experience.
for example:
>Remove covetous demon
>make the squalid queen a better fight
Seriously every zone had two bosses and one was always shitty.

Auto correct seems to do more harm then good.

But yeah, the graphics due to suck but they are good enough for what the game is and the upgraded edition looks good enough now.

>I've never understood the hate for the game beyond no interconnected world which no other game in the series does
Imagine if MGS3 went back to barely giving you any nonlethal options after MGS2 fixed that issue in MGS1. That's how souls players feel. The world in DaS1 is a huge step-up from DeS in that sense, but then none of its sequels continue with that improvement. Hell, DaS2 is even worse than DeS since at least DeS had consistent level design within the 5 areas and no earthen peak-tier idiocy

His defense of the intro was pretty interesting though.

>the upgraded edition looks good enough now.
No. Even SotFS still looks significantly worse than all of the other games, even DeS on the fucking PS3

Yeah, it was a letdown to play 2 and think "did they not know that we all really liked that part of 1?"

I think it looks good enough but i'm not a graphics fag

I thought the tower of flame was fucking amazing

>dat sky and scenery of the ocean and mountains and shit in the distance
>dem huge ass soldier dudes
>dat big ass castle that you can actually go to

I was high as fuck though the whole time and a souls noob, but that area made me love the game.

worse = / = bad
and most of the game looks nothing like that picture

Have you ever been so booty bothered by a few youtube videos that you spend all day on Sup Forums remaking the same thread over and over about it 10 times a day?

Yeah and then Dark Souls 3 doesn't do it and I barely saw any shit for it. And I mean the connected world was great but it ultimately is mostly cosmetic. A progression map of Dark Souls 1 and 2 isn't that different from each other.

And I will never understand why people are so mad about the elevator. Every other transition is fine. The fever pitch for this is about as reasonable as how come you can Link carry 15 sledgehammers.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but level design wise, it's just a bunch of connected floating platforms. the backdrop is pretty, but the actual level is pretty boring. compared to an area like the lost bastille, which is long and interesting.

nice cherrypicking

Stopped reading when you said you had trouble with Smelter Demon OP

Git gud you fucking newfag

Heide's Tower is great. And Forest of the Fallen Giants. Both are the first levels and the final levels pretty much. You go to the Giant Memories to then be able to fight the final boss. And then Heide's is basically the Dragon Shrine but in disrepair. Like pottery

>Dark Souls 3 doesn't do it and I barely saw any shit for it
Are you kidding? The linear world design and DaS2-tier number of bonfires in most areas are the number one things DaS3 gets shit for
>Every other transition is fine
lel

t. Matthewhalitosis

No one said they had trouble with Smelter, just that it's the worst boss fight in the entire game

yeah it was pretty cool. I also liked the spooky forest, the lava place, the dark place where statues spit poison at you and you have to go down, jumping down the well with the cat ring, the boss fight where you fight 3 giant dudes, and some other place where you have to drop down on some balconies and shit and I forget what was at the bottom but it was cool. yeah I know I sound like a retard but it's been a while

I also never beat the game

It's true though. I have been here for years (plz kill me) and there is nothing that has garnered so much following and praise as the Souls series.

the earthen peak elevator hate comes from the fact that it would have been simple as fuck to make it not feel retarded. Either make the elevator go down, or put a mountain backdrop on the back of earthen peak like in pic related. It stuck out, it was one of a few things that made the area feel rushed, and it just wasn't cool. Compare it to the elevator after the guardian dragon, which gives you this cool view, and doesn't feel like you're taking a magical video game portal to the next level.

well thanks for proving my point that the transitions are fine. if that's a big deal, im sorry for your autism

>people like games that I don't like

Wasn't darksouls 2 PvP at one point a rock paper scissors meta before the three things were nerfed?

>liking enemies spinning around 720 degrees to hit you.
Yeah sure most of Darksouls 1 can be cheesed by circling with a shield up to go for back stabs but this takes it to a whole new level.
>saying that you like to not lock on while praising Darksouls 2 when you can only pivot with stab attacks unless you are a claymore fag

>game has areas so indefensible even DaS2fags have to resort to m-most of the game isn't that awful
Great, that really convinced me DaS2 doesn't look like shit

Nice trolling user, well done.

which just makes it all the better when some autismos start dropping their "it isn't even HARD" humble brag.
Yeah I'm talking to you, platinumed Bloodborne in ten days faggot. next time, tell us how many hours it took you, that's far more relevant.

My problem with the tower of flame was the area was a literal boring straight line. It was boring and felt the enemies were too, especially the boss.
Don't even get me started on the fucking old dragonslayer

He is just pathologically autistic. It cripples his ability to judge objective facts and relate to other people.

It doesn't though
You don't zoom in on Mona Lisa's yellow ass skin and say "it looks like shit," you look at it as a whole and decide based of that. A screenshot of Ds2 having bad textures when close up in one obscure corner of the game is not an argument to the game itself. Sadly, there's not really any way to talk about what it really looks like without playing the whole thing for yourself.

I like the part where DaS1 skyboxes are so accurate that you can typically see your bloodstain from miles away if the geometry lines up right (since bloodstains have infinite draw distance) and then DaS2 has this insulting shit just thrown together because they knew plebs would defend it

Matt the reason Hbomb and Joseph Anderson have so much more Patreon money than you is because they update often, constantly upgrade the quality of their videos and they are not afraid of making controversial content.

They will keep gaining followers while you slowly starve to death simply because you are a cowardly and lazy asshole that cannot admit your own mistakes and capitalize on your own qualities.

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>reminder that hbomberguy has already been btfo

The games ain't as hard as people make them out to be. The meme spawned back in the last generation in which people were used to brain-dead games like Halo and Gears of War and so a game that actually required skill seemed revolutionary.

Someone post that ledge next to the bonfire in the iron keep

again I enjoyed it as a souls noob so I guess it was good for a starting area. I actually struggled there a little at first but then it became a pretty chill and easy place to "grind..." I'm pretty sure I cleared out the entire area so nothing spawned there any more because it was so comfy

It's not that one corner that looks that bad, it's all of shaded woods, an area required to beat the game.

This isn't a little minor extra area the devs added for funsies, this is required

On the world interconection issue, do you think from tried to explain/retcon it with the whole world collapsing into itself and the inclussion of earthen peak in DS3

I know, I just think it's funny when people try to troll about how easy the games are when the difficulty isn't even what everyone likes about the games

Daily reminder that Serious Lore Analysis are objectively the best videos.

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>guy brags about platinuming the game that requires a single playthrough with cloud saves and only the story chalice dungeons to platinum
What ever happened to him?

>Played through Dark Souls 2 at release
>Didn't like the durability bug, the issue with the shadows and Shrine of Amana
>But found the game enjoyable overall and had fun playing through it
>Replayed it not too long ago after Dark Souls 3 had come out
>Opinion remains the same

Do videos of other people matter that much?

H-he's fast!

i generally worry about platinium the game on second plathrought
fuck worrying about picking everything in every fucking playthrough

>Do videos of other people matter that much?

Only if you are an insecure little shit.

Although it's a problem when someone popularizes a wrong factoid and people repeat it mindlessly.

>High skill technique
needlesly complicated

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I find that far more tolerable than "critiques".
Sure you're still looking at it from just one site but you're actually doing it out of enjoyment.
Making critiques is just a waste, if the game is shit then just do a regular review and conclude that the game is indeed shit. If you actually have like the game but have some qualms with it then still do a regular review and make sure to bring them up.
At the very least make a review alongside the critique. The way Matt did it make it look like he thought it was a 4/10 game or something, and not GOTY as he actually believed, but his drones couldn't catch that when it was so one-sided.

I did too, although I did cloud save right before Gehrman just so I could get both achievements I knew were coming.

Then I looked it up and realized how little was left to get the platinum and how I didn't even need a second playthroughfuck Watchdog though

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I saw an hbomber guy video where he unironically said he is excited for the new God of War because "it will explore the character, feelings, and emotions of Kratos" and then I closed the tab

I don't think anyone should be watching any of his videos

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I don't think he speaks unironically ever.

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uhhhh, context?

>people actually listen to hbomberguy
A literal nobody with uniformly bad opinions. His only grasping, scrabbling attempts at relevance have been by making cringeworthy "responses" to other youtubers.

Looks like he's not a cuckold to me

I don't get it.

The trans person's response.
>If you haven’t guessed I’m the guy (afab transman) who worked with Hbomberguy on some of his videos late last year… until I sat in his stream and suddenly realized that his best friend there was the same guy in our friend’s group years ago who lives in my city that threatened to rape me. We agreed to meet up and then he pulled all the stops on being creepy as hell in private messages - even going as far as calling it a “date” and that he would take me back to his mom’s basement to drink until “I couldn’t say no to him.” When I finally cancelled and never showed he bombarded me with tonnes of “fucking bitch/whore/slut” type messages. I blocked him and tried to move on. I couldn’t with all the shit going on in my life at that time though, so ended up telling Hbomberguy and this is what he replied with.
I’ve been sitting on this for a while, faffing about whether I should post it somewhere or not, for a lot of reasons (including that my reputation will be shot to shit now, everyone will know I’m transgender and some of my history of sexual assault).
On the other hand, Hbomberguy is making his career off being a “sjw feminist” when he has the balls to say shit like what he did. It infuriates me to know that he still not only is friends with a guy he has outright admitted is a fucking creeper but has him contribute to his videos and moderate his livestreams. I’m fucking furious that I only feel I can post this because I’ve left the gaming industry all together and “have nothing to lose” mental-health wise because otherwise I’d be fucked out of a career when my real name is attached to this, whether by his supporters or anti-feminists who can’t wait to see another person like me destroyed/kill themselves for speaking up.

I tried to watch his FO3 video but he just came across as childish and annoying

I recall watching the FO3 video and finding myself annoyed about his stupid opinions.

I don't think it was so much that he was calling something bad when it wasn't, but that he was calling various things bad for the wrong reasons.

Ds2 isn't bad. It just doesn't live up to the name it has, which should then be regarded as a failure.
Also muh PvP doesn't save it. Ds2 PvP was shot and I haven't seen hitboxes that broken since mhfu

>What I want from posting this is that everyone starts holding him accountable for this bullshit. I want people to know that when it comes time to actually put his feminism into practice, he’s shit the bed. People need to hold him to his word and he needs to actually demonstrate he isn’t just another white cis man making money off repeating what everyone else around him is saying while doing the same shit anti-feminists are doing. I do want him to actually get better and grow as a person - I just don’t want it to have to get to this point where it’s at my fucking life’s work and career’s expense.
Happy International Woman’s Day everyone, and Fuck You Hbomberguy.

he's a apologist to someone who harassed a trans person.