Franchises with more bad games than good ones

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Battlefield

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Tales of

Final Fantasy.

Final fantasy

GTA

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10 good games (9 mainline + Tactics) is more than all the recent shit

V-VI-VII if doesn't triggers you, maybe the one with Masters of the Universe ghost and Tactics

Ape Escape

Are there any good games in AC? I guess 2 was decent.

Driver 1 and 2 don't get enough credit. I imagine rockstar looked at them a lot when they were making gta 3

Shin Megami Tensei

Unreal and UT99 were good.
2k3, 2k4, II, UT3 Championship, Championship 2 are all trash. New UT is also trash, but I reserve judgement until its 1.0 release.

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triggered. the only bad sonic games are sonic 06 and sonic 4

Witcher
Fallout
Sonic
Mario
Devil May Cry
GTA
Assassins Creed
Final Fantasy
SMT
Donkey Kong
Rayman
Halo
Gears of War
Gran Turismo

The Bad:
Crisis Core
Dirge of Cerberus
FF2
FF8
FF13
FF13-3
Record Keeper
FFT A2
FF15
Crystal Chronicles (x3)

>FF15
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You're high.

What's wrong with UC2 and 2k3/4?
1, 3 and 4 are good. There are only 2 bad games.
There is arguably like one shitty GT game, and that's only if you make a direct comparison to Forza 4.

Star Fox

Star Fox

I feel bad for only really finding out last year that "Unreal" is a thing and that it's amazing. I always assumed UT99 was the first and the entire series was multiplayer oriented.

>Witcher

The worst one is 2 and its a 7/10 game at the very least.

GT 3, GT4 and GT5 are bad. I never could control them with default joystick. Why do I have to buy a wheel to play the game?
>wait 13 years for Star Fox Zero
>Myiamoto added a gimmick to troll everyone
I wish I could kill him.

4 is not good, it's an unfinished shitheap. The okay combat mechanics and somewhat amusing characters are not close to elevating it past it's abysmal enemy design.

>I never could control them with default joystick
________________________________git gud____________________________

Because it's the Real Driving Simulator ;^)

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>4 is not good
NIGGA I WILL CUT YOU! Haven't played Automata (so it is excempt from my generalization) but the only games in the same vein better than 4 are Bayo and Bayo 2.

I disagree. DMC3 is to DMC4 as Ninja Gaiden Black is to NG2. The latter has superior core combat but everything else feels unpolished or unfinished. I don't think either of those games are truly "bad" though, just 7-8/10 material.

Star Fox
Paper Mario
Chibi Robo

Automata's combat is a somewhat streamlined version of Bayo with RPG mechanics that let you eventually brute your force through any challenge.

not at all

Bayo < Automata even if Bayonetta had something better than a drag queen body shape.

brute force your way*

Its a shame, i liked type 4

Defend having infinite witch time and zero downtime between dodges in Nier right off the bat.

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>infinite witch time
no such thing
Plus there are more enemies on screen and you have to constantly dodge in ALL DIRECTIONS
Now apologize

It's about even

>1, 2, 3, 4, SM
vs
>O, HC, DP, BoM

inb4 SM is a bad game meme

>CD
>Chaos
>Blast
>3D blasy
>Pocket
>Advance 3
>Adventure
>heroes
>secret rings
>unleashed
>black knight
>lost world
>good

Yes there is. There is no meter or anything. Every single dodged attack will start up not-Witch Time.
>Plus there are more enemies on screen and you have to constantly dodge in ALL DIRECTIONS
As opposed to what? Doesn't even matter when there is fucking ZERO endlag between dodges.

unfortunately you are right but many IGN hipsters will say that CD was good
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They're all good

Unleashed and CD are fine. Agreed with the rest.

you are not in a good mental state
You are angry about something and trying to put your anger in Nier.

Sorry, but 1, 2, 3 and New Vegas are atleast not bad games.

I'm not though. I really liked Automata. I just don't think the core combat is as good as Bayo. and I think the chip system+plentiful consumables (with no punishment for using them) undermines the need for player skill in many instances. I had the same problem with Transformers Devastation.

They made a core mechanic an expensive unlock for absolutely no reason which hamstrings the fun of the combat mechanics. RG was nerfed into the ground instead making distortion the OP technique. The enemy design is atrocious, now to be fair 3 also had a lot of trash enemies but 4 takes it to a whole new level with tedious encounters. The backtracking is the worst in any game i have played plus you unironically have to fight the exact same bosses 3 times and unlike 1 which did the same they aren't any different in each encounter. On top of the second half of the game being the first half in reverse there is even more blatant padding in the form of the stupid dice BS, which while easy is a waste of the players time.

It's very telling that the people who claim to enjoy 4 only ever go into bloddy palace with debug to combo the basic mook or refight credo over and over.

1, 2, NV and Tactics are good
against the bad 3,4 and BoS.

fair points but I disagree.

>expensive unlock for absolutely no reason
Not hard to get if you're good
>RG was nerfed into the ground instead making distortion the OP technique.
Not relevant.
>The enemy design is atrocious
subjective but I don't disagree
>backtracking
Not relevant, I'm in it for the combat backtracking is not relevant, especially in a game where you have to play the same mission multiple times anyway.

People that play these games tend to do it for difficulty and mechanical depth. 4 has that is spades.

Come on, 3 is not bad. Yes, this game has a lot of shitty stuff like level system, locations that don't make sence but it is still felt a Fallout game.
Failout 4 is still shit.

I forgot about black knight yeah that one was bad. lost world was pretty good for what it was

cd was decent not my favorite but it was alright

Literally every single one of those (except for FF and Sonic) are false.

All of them are good except the butchered version of 3 that we got in the west and the F2P game on PS3.

>People that play these games tend to do it for difficulty and mechanical depth.
>Not hard to get if you're good
You sound like a tryhard seeking validation for being "hardcore". They gated a core mechanic away for no reason making the game play objectively inferior until you get it especially retarded since nero uses it in the opening scene and dante was doing it in 1 and 3 yet i can't use it until several missions in.

Yes nerfing the most skill based, damaging and style point rewarding style to the point where it isn't worth it is certainly relevant.

>especially in a game where you have to play the same mission multiple times anyway.
That's is the problem having to backtrack in a game where you are intended to replay content multiplies the repetition hastening player boredom.

Also, making me have to collect orbs from around the level instead of from enemies as part of the ranking is yet more retarded padding.

Every Dragon Ball game since Budokai, they're all tge same fucking game.

Don't forget the arcade game.

>FFCC
>bad

The man with no taste

never understood how ppl couldn't pass the driving test. Took trial and error but it was do-able.

>You sound like a tryhard seeking validation for being "hardcore".
If that's the way you want to see it.
>They gated a core mechanic away for no reason making the game play objectively inferior
Literally every one of these games is about gating mechanics and adding new ones when you master old ones. The game is inferior until you unlock everything, no fucking shit!
>Yes nerfing the most skill based, damaging and style point rewarding style to the point where it isn't worth it is certainly relevant.
It was nerfed because it was OP as shit, unfortunately something else became OP. It's literally the same thing except it's a different style.
>Also, making me have to collect orbs from around the level instead of from enemies as part of the ranking is yet more retarded padding.
A literal non-issue. If it's such a problem, guides exist on the internet.
He's not wrong since there are more than 3 crystal chronicles games.

>>CD
stopped reading right there

Good ones:
Driver
Driver 2
Driver Parallel Lines
Driver 76
Driver SF

Bad ones:
Driv3r
Driver Renegade

In which world is 2 more than 5?

I honestly loved driv3r because I couldn't get gta because my whore sisters said you could have naked girls running around and see their boobs but when I go a ps2 at my moms you're damn right the first game I got was san andreas

Except the pure COD clone KZ3, which one was bad? They were all at least decent.

Not even devout Sonybros like Killzone 1.

Yeah sure, it aged badly, but back in the day it got good reviews.

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Not really
metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/killzone/critic-reviews
It came out playing alot worse than Halo and Timesplitters.

Ha, I thought it had better reviews.

>The Bad:
>FF2
>FF8

>Only 1 (one) good game

Paper Mario. Fuck you, SPM was bad too.

>2004
>Championship 2
>bad
garbage post
garbage poster

I thought the SP for Unreal was really bad, Unreal 2 managed to be even worse but god damn it was a looker

pokemon

This is a weird series.

1, 2 and 3 are impossible to play unless you activate NeGcon analog steering which 98% of the owners did not, but are fun arcade-like games

4 is feel good comfy game that anyone can play

5 I personally don't like

PSP started the weird modern rail drifting and is also a series compilation fan service package, which is makes for good handheld fun. Portable 2 added more content.

6 is like PSP HD and 7 is same but more, on PS3.

Unbounded is like if Split/Second walked into the wrong game.

tl;dr 1 GOAT game, roughly half good games, rest okay games, 1 undeniably bad game

Maybe if one of them hired Ryan Gosling for the face and voice of the protagonist they wouldn't be so shit.

If you only count the mainline games, the only good spin offs are japan only

4 is better than 3.

FO3 is one of the worst most shit feeling games I've played in my life. At least Fallout 4 improved on the extreme clunkyness. Both garbage games though.

>I'm shit at the game so it's bad
GT3 is a masterpiece, pleb

This.