What are some well written betrayals in vidya...

What are some well written betrayals in vidya? Those that you don't see coming but does not come off as an asspull either.

Examples I can think of are Matt Engarde from AA and Nagito Komaeda from DR.

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scopeblog.stanford.edu/2015/02/24/sex-biology-redefined-genes-dont-indicate-binary-sexes/
youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8
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Ride to Hell Retribution and customer's wallets.

Samuel from Dishonored. At least, if you were a murderous cunt. Couldn't bring myself to kill him even though he basically said "Oi cunts look at this fucked over here, have at him."

He was wrong both times though, sex is determined by chromosomes, gender is defined by hippies.

it's amazing how a 90s has-been like Bill Nye managed to trigger so many Sup Forumstards and now they're sperging out and crossposting on our board.

>good discussion topic is always just a cover for Sup Forums bait

Bill should have stayed gone. Now he feels like he's selling out to that crowd who gets their news from exclusively Now This! facebook videos.

Yes I am projecting.

Jeez it's almost as if science is based on theories that can change and adapt over time as we learn more

Nothing has changed the common use of the word gender has changed and the definition of words change if the general understanding of it changes. Gay means homosexual now and whatnot

This

>social sciences
>actual science

oh look its this thread again

except for the iron law known as genetics

I understand that gender is on a spectrum, but I didn't know that about sex.

>it's a shitposter posts thinly veiled Sup Forumsshit outside of his fucking containment board episode

Nuke that fucking board and everyone who posts on it please

You will be doing the site and the world a favor

Nothing changed he just misused the word gender in the first panel. He clearly meant sex. In the second panel he doesn't mean sex as in male and female he means sex like stright, bi, and pan. They are just badly written shows. In the first episode he couldn't shut up about how he has a new show.

90% of Sup Forums would disappear.

what the fuck is wrong with you spam posting bastard

Yoshimo from Baldur's Gate 2. He's not a bad guy. There is some alluding he's a traitor but not to the degree you would expect the game to actually follow through with it. He's got no real choice other than to traitor you though.

Hammer from Xenogears is pretty gut wrenching too, a bit character who got shoved to the sidelines after his story arc was over just wanted to get his time in the spotlight again.

Is there a list of ready made OP templates for different political situations? Are they strictly video game related or are they more general and made to be tailorable to different subjects for use on different boards?

Thank fucking god.

fuck off with this Sup Forums garbage

GOOD. 90% of Sup Forums's userbase needs to fucking go and they needed to fucking go years ago

maybe this site will actually be good again with all the retards gone

I find it hilarious that Sup Forums is so easily triggered.

Genetics -> phenotype is not iron law, developmental errors happen. Biological sex is determined whether you produce egg cells or not.

It will unfortunately only get worse. The saddest part is that we will keep coming here regardless.

You know it is bad when threads pop up that look back at 2012 Sup Forums fondly

Sexual orientation.
Sex

And gender.

By the way. If gender's a social construct, then your brain has nothing to do with your gender. The two are mutually exclusive. Either your brain determines gender or society does.

I think you can guess what science seems to suggest.

kek

I have a feeling OP doesn't really wanna talk about videogames

>gender
>anything but binary
>somehow Sup Forums bait

You can't call something bait because it hurts your pejinis.

Yeah, there's no going back, it's just a steady downward spiral of shit

I don't even know why I bother coming here, I guess I just want to be there when it finally reaches terminal cancer and fucking dies. I want to stick around just to mock Hiro, the mods, and the staff when it happens too. After all, it's only because of their stellar """leadership""" and """guidance"""" that Sup Forums is what it is now.

Image on the left is fake.

It's commonly known that sex is predetermined and gender is the social construct.

So Bill was always wrong.

Bill Nye The Science Guy.
Episode:
Genes

>Gender is a social construct
That doesn't hold water based on actual science.

Cringe.

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Gender is a grammatical term that was used by puritanical retards because "sex" is icky. It means the same damn thing.

What about trannies, then?

Dio from VLR was pretty good.
Joshua from the World Ends with You
Dickson from Xenoblade

>dude why do people make fun of conservatives just because we're of bunch of bible thumping, science hating, wall street deregulating, single issue voting dipshits lmao
>dude the mexicans are destroying our economy so we have to cut taxes for millionaires lmao

Gender is a social construct.
Sex isn't.
Easy to confuse, since nowadays even words have been warped to fit a political agenda, and you can force a definition with sufficient popular use.

I was legit really upset Magalor bretrayed you in Kirby Return to Dreamland

He was basically a much better executed attempt at Marx, who was a literal who, whereas Magalor was genuine and you constantly see him


The real identity of the Phantom in Dual Destinies was also fucking ridiculous

en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/gender
>The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

>announcing a report
Back to

And language evolves, now gender can be used in certain contexts to talk about social roles and cultural differences rather than a biological state.

Can you stupid Sup Forumscucks at least contain yourselves to a single thread instead of spamming Sup Forums with your trash?

Well user that's a very good question.
Do you think that they were born with their body, either male or female, and then their gender which is assigned to them by social mores and opinions was opposite of that and that's why they're transgender?

Or do you believe that something else might have happened. That maybe their body was one way, and the brain was another. Because the latter is a biological, nerological condition. Not a construct of society but a scientifically explainable phenomenon.

The former is a social construct. It's like manners, poetry or music. Depending on where you are or how you grow up and your exposure to these things your experience with them can vary.

>Be a mechanical engineer
>Show isn't about engineering

>it turns out that when all these new age gender hippies say "gender", they were talking about masculine/feminine rather than male/female
>all this controversy about nothing

Would have been nice if they'd said so initially. But I suppose trying to make up new words instead of using already existing ones is sort of par for the course for these chucklefucks.

Dio was too forced / had way too much foreshadowing. But I did enjoy it.
Off the top off my head, Sirius betraying you AND killing Altair in Bomberman 64.

dailymotion.com/video/x3k1ymn
About 9 minutes in.

It's fake mate.

Wait, you idiots thought they were referring to their sex? It was always about the gender.

I will cry when it happens, but at least part of me will be free.

Popular use is the backbone of language. Definition is determined by common use. The dictionary is a snapshot of how words ARE being used. Not must be.

So no, gender isn't a social construct because your gender isn't based on social exposure. It's biological

Oxford also defines it as a synonym for sex.
Weird.

>its betrayal because pic related got triggered
Its bad enough you fags ruined Sup Forums, stop trying to ruin Sup Forums too. Well, moreso.

Sorry, language is not a science. The CURRENT proper term referring to the genetical property based on the X/Y paradigm is called Sex, and has been used this way in scientific papers in order to precisely avoid controversy and mistakes in interpretation.

Orson from Fire Emblem Sacred Stones.

They dont give you much indication he will turn traitor other than one vague line muttered by a guy in a cutscenes and the bastard still eats your levelups / item uses if you don't already know it's coming.

If gender is a social construct then there is nothing scientific about it.

A tranny saying they're a girl is no more valid than someone saying they're guy.

This show is trying to present this as scientific fact when it just made up bullshit as admitted by anyone who calls it a social construct.

The precise definition of sex depends on context. Many papers need to specify alternate working definitions of sex because there is enough ambiguity that it can be confusing in some contexts. There is no single definition even within science.

Gender and sex, in language, are synonymous.

Despite that, how is gender not biological or scientific?

Stop playing straight games.

>Gender and sex, in language, are synonymous.

But they obviously aren't?

Aliens: Colonial Marines was a pretty big betrayal.

It means neither, but whatever.

Reminder that Bill Nye is in fact not a scientist in any capacity but rather a mechanical engineer.

See Though I am also impressed they're not using sex as the biological definition of the reproductive binary. I wonderr how you can confuse it, with gender being the catch-all of sexual identity.

In the English language, gender can and is used as a synonym for sex.

What do you believe to be gender, user?

No, I mean that people seem to say 'gender' as some sort of new thing or as something with any sort of gravitas or profundity ("Gender is messy! Gender is hard to explain or difficult to define. Gender matters. Etc."), when it's something completely mundane that's been around for ages. That, and the fact people say male and female when they mean masculine and feminine, and in some cases confusing the two to the point of claiming that they have no influence on each other, or in the extreme, claiming that biological sex doesn't real.

Sexual identity isn't a social construct either, user. No. I don't mean sexual orientation. I mean gender identity. What you feel yourself to be.

Society does not hold sway over this. Your brain does.

scopeblog.stanford.edu/2015/02/24/sex-biology-redefined-genes-dont-indicate-binary-sexes/

unreal 2. you really get so caught up in other things you don't consider the importance of the artefacts you're collecting, the story just fucking explodes at the end.

there are only 2 gender

Err you're right. I meant sexual orientation, not identity.

Bill Nye outed himself as a hack long before this, with his "global warming causes terrorism" shit that's completely unsubstantiated by anything.

Ok I'll listen.
Sexual orientation is a social construct?
I had come to the understanding for some time now that whether you're straight, gay or what have you was mostly biological.

STOP

Spotted the newfag
>Sup Forums had HOL UP, "Jewish ancestry", Louis cuck, boyegaposting, "movies women will never understand", John Oliver posting before Trump even ran
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH TV IS TOO RACIST IT MUST BE THE EBIL POLTARDS

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shut up, leaf

The new manager of the krusty gender 2 is...

There's debate on that topic, since some studies claim there is a biological component of homosexuality.
But not always, and it's certainly not the norm. Sorry if I don't shower you with references and papers about this, but a quick look in PMC will get you information regarding this.

This is the future liberals want.
youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8

need more bass drops

Western society is degenerating and liberals are the problem. Hippies started all of this shit with the sex and drugs social revolution in the 70's and those entitled, hedonistic ideals have spread through our society like a cancer since.

Hm.
Interesting.

Why do the rules keep changing? They used to say that gender was "on a spectrum" and sex was biologically boy/girl. How the fuck can sex AND gender both be on a spectrum? As if it wasn't ridiculous enough at the beginning.