Sonic Forces Thread - JUST FUCK MY SERIES UP edition

Sonic Forces Thread - JUST FUCK MY SERIES UP edition

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>boost gameplay

The """Classic""" gameplay is even worse.

This. I'll take boost over imitation classic any day. It's especially embarrassing when Mania is being developed at the same time.

Both parts have been butchered.

Uncharted/Generations have ruined Sonic.

why doesn't Sonic Team focus on pure 3D instead of this hybrid generations bullshit? Mania is being made to appeal to the 2D crowd there's no need for this crap.

The worst part is how Mario has clowned the field of classic platformers THREE FUCKING TIMES.
>New Super Mario Bros.
>Super Mario Galaxy
>Super Mario 3D Land/World

Sonic is just embarrasing.

and it has awful 2d gameplay sonic team cant get anything right

This Generations """classic"""" is garbage.

Because SoJ lives in a bubble, I guess. They probably don't trust western devs after Boom (+their long-time dismissiveness towards anything from the west) either, so they want to do 2D the "right" way.

>That feel when this will be Sonic '17

>there hasn't been a single purely 3D Sonic game since 2006
>every "3D" Sonic game has to have shitty 2D sections in them now
>even in Generations which has a dedicated pure 2D character, modern Sonic still has shitty 2D sections

why

>why
dude its like the originals lmao

yet, in the end, they're the ones fucking classic sonic gameplay up

Forces started development before Mania (after Lost World so 2013) which somewhat would explain why Classic is still included. There is also the point that Iizuka wants to cater to both Modern & Classic fans as stated in his interview in Famitsu:
sonicjpnews.tumblr.com/post/159914016266/20170423-sonic-forces-interview-article

>Q: Will there be any difference between Modern and Classic gameplays?

>A: Yes. As a Sonic Team product after a long time, we wanted to provide users at least these two gameplay styles: 3D Sonic’s high-speed boost action, and 2D Sonic’s classic gameplay. We are co-starring these two to respond to long-time fan’s feelings, so I think we can meet their expectations with these gameplays.

Also I can't find a source for this but I recall hearing Sonic Team not feeling confident in just making a game based around only Modern's formula because it'd make the game short and I'd assume they wouldn't be able to cram enough ideas in there to make it last, things like this are why Unleashed had the Werehog and Generations had Classic Sonic as well (but hey, Colors was a thing, although it was 2D a lot and relied heavily on Wisps to make it work). But yeah, I can't find a source on that so chalk that up to speculation I guess.

While I like the Boost gameplay I gotta say I think they need to find a new formula but last time they tried Lost World happened and a lot hate that game. 3D Sonic sure is a rocky road.

>They probably don't trust western devs after Boom
that was their fault. They rushed BRB to have the game out by the holiday season. The same reason why Sonic '06 was so glitchy and incomplete. Sega has just as much to do with Sonic's failures as the developers do. They even apologized for it so Fire and Ice got delayed (and actually turned out decent as a result)

I agree, it's certainly ironic. It's a good thing there's finally a competent dev team working on Sonic, though -- maybe Mania and (hopefully) its success will shake SoJ out of their retardation.

FUCK SONIC TEAM
REEEEEEEEEEE

>Plot
>Story

Who fucking cares, if game is fun, it's fucking fun. I'm not CWC to care if his arms are blue or not.

>that was their fault. They rushed BRB to have the game out by the holiday season.
Their other big mistake was hiring BRB to do it.

This is so fucking embarrassing.

Proof that Sonic is either super slow or super fast paced.

And who care about the story of a plateformer.

I actually want them to revisit the Heroes style and improve it. The game was flawed as hell but it actually felt like a 2d sonic game in 3d. I love that you can shift gameplay styles instantaneously. Just make the game with Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles only.

>who cares about having a 1/3 of the game being dedicated to OC Donut Steel

>And who care about the story of a plateformer.
If they include a story and give it some focus, then I will care if it is shit.

>what is secret rings
>what is black knight

Please no we already had a sonic '14

If the main character of Sonic Forces is literally your Sonic OC then I will purchase this game day one for those absolute madmen

Heroes sucked you retarded nint0ddler

at least we got an alternative that doesn't suck this time around

You going to count Sonic Dash too?

they havnt trusted westerns since they got pissed in 93 that the west saveds sega while SoJ ran it into the fucking ground and killed the company.

Don't forget Free Riders and All-Star Racing Transformed.

>I recall hearing Sonic Team not feeling confident in just making a game based around only Modern's formula because it'd make the game short


THEN WHY NOT JUST ADD MORE FUCKING LEVELS TO THE GAME SEGA

just tell me sonic mania will be as good as CD

>You not only have to slow down and find them one by one in a game that, unlike the classic Sonic games, was not designed for going slow at all, but you have to find all of them for that stage in a single run to get the special stage. Miss a single SP Ring, no special stage.

Finding the SP rings was nothing more than finding the route through the stage that netted you all 7 in one fell swoop with very little backtracking

>just tell me sonic mania will be as good as CD
It'll be better.

>boostbabbies actually pretending even the awkward classic imitation isn't better than straight line zone

Because of how splintered and entitled the Sonic fanbase is

Forces being clearly the bigger focus of Sega still would've made the Classic era fans flip out.

Sonic Team is pretty much in a completely unwinnable situation when it comes to Sonic nowadays

>Sonic OC characters
>We finally will be able to play as Sonichu and Coldsteel The Hedgeheg

You have to find them in the first place before you can even attempt to figure out a path that takes you past all of them, and the stages are very large and full of branching paths, and some of the rings are very well hidden.
They should have had like 10 special rings per stage and required you get at least 5 or 6 of them.
Or just have a not shit special stage system like any of the ones in the Genesis games.

>completely unwinnable situation

release Sonic Adventure 3

People just want a great Sonic game, something that Sonic Team isn't capable of for nearly two decades.

No, Sonic Team just need to have a set of balls and be willing to make a part of the fanbase take a back seat.

Look at Nintendo. They forced the Mario 64/Sunshine fanbase to take a back seat whilst they gave the traditional "reach the goal" fans two whole generations of games. Now they're taking a break from that style and returning to the 64/Sunshine gameplay and look at how nobody is complaining because the game looks good.

Sonic fans wont cry at a Sonic Adventure 3 so long as Adventure 3 looks good.

>Sonic Team is pretty much in a completely unwinnable situation when it comes to Sonic nowadays
I don't agree. No matter what they do there will be some detractors, but this is true of literally any game in any series, and clearly not every game in every series has failed.
If they focus on any one thing and do a good job of it, it will work.

Boost except with more content, far more polish, and no secondary gameplay style? People will love it.

Something like the 3D physics-y demos people have been putting out recently such as Sonic Utopia, but a full game and far more polished? People will love it.

Sonic Adventure 3 except the alternate characters don't play like dogshit given no time in development? People will love it.

Trying to please everyone in the incredibly tone-deaf way they're doing now and putting out products similar to and worse than their older stuff is why they can't win.

I feel like we know too little still.

How long will the game be? How many unique
levels?
What the hell is the third gameplay style?
Still no full playtrough of a Modern Stage.

And the level design could change alot, we have seen that with Sonic Generations stages post Green Hill

>you create a character
oh boy, a whole new age of degeneracy and oc donut steels

can't wait

>Something like the 3D physics-y demos people have been putting out recently such as Sonic Utopia

I'm pretty sure Iizuka and Sonic Team thought about doing a game like that when developing Adventure.

...

>putting console games on the same line as mobileshit
No

At least Sonic Utopia looks cool.

>just tell me sonic mania will be as good as CD
I hope it ends up better than that game(aka the worst of the classic games)

JUST MAKE GENERATIONS 2
YOU DAFT FUCKING KUNTS

Goddamn, why does this entire comic line have to be cancelled

We really aren't allowed to have nice things

>putting Secret Rings on the same line as major releases like Unleashed or Colors
No

>Strange, isn't it?
>No way, I can't believe this!
Could they try any harder? The strip mighta been good without this shit.

>THEN WHY NOT JUST ADD MORE FUCKING LEVELS TO THE GAME SEGA
Two reasons: 1) they fell for their own meme magic and think modern Sonic is all about gotta go fast speed and nothing else, and 2) speed-based levels have an absolutely terrible cost-to-gameplay ratio.

why are there people who actually care about the plot in a sonic game?

They already did
It was called Sonic '06

Because they insist on having one, so if they're going to have one then it might as well be halfway decent and not complete garbage like the past few games.

You daft fucking fool. The reason this thread exists is because NOBODY asked for another autism-fueled melodramatic story-driven Sonic.

it's not like SOA wasn't guilty of fucking things up either, Remember Saturnday? Though if SOJ wasn't hellbent on making technology in house they could of had Sony's help or use the SGI technology the N64 ended up using for the Saturn which is what Kalinske wanted SOJ to do.

But that's exactly what they're doing.
They're just also doing a shit job of it.

No, Iizuka was the one who thought of the alternate gameplay styles to add "variety"

Colors was literally by the storybook team
And the production values were on par

They thought about how Sonic could work in 3D, and they tried mutiple things. Inlcuding no automation, no cinematic amera anges, and it did not feel satisfying to play

I actually like the song. i just wish it didn't sound so screechy

>Colors was literally by the storybook team
And?

>And the production values were on par
Not really. Secret Rings looks pretty good for a Wii game, but Colors is on an entirely different level.

Sonic World on Sonic Jam felt more satisfying to play than Adventure 2bh

Either way, Iizuka ruined the series with his autism

Instead of improving the bad things and keep the good things the team starts from the scratch always adding a new gimmick with a new game.

youtube.com/watch?v=AU-EWZV-EZ4&t=715s

Secret Rings looks every bit as good as Colors graphically. Don't give me that shit please

>we tried this a single time when 3D was still fairly new to us, was not satisfying, we can never attempt again
meanwhile they put out dozens of some of the least satisfying games I've ever played.

ok.

its their thought process

kinda like how they got rid of exploration and platforming in the kingdom hearts games

>after boom
Didn't boom sell enough to get more games tho

>starting thread without lewd Sonic girls
Its like you want to let the thread die.

This. You can't please everyone, but at least please someone. Their current strategy makes no one happy

>Buddy

They're actually doing it.
The fucking madmen

>you'll be able to make your own furry cum slut
Oh Lord

>character creation

So basically, Sega's version of miis in Sonic. Can't wait to make Hitler Sanic

The making of Sonic Adventure is far more interesting than the game itself

No it doesn't. Both look good, but Colors looks better on basically every level.
Either way, that ain't the point. Why count some motion controlled auto-runner spin-off game alongside clearly mainline Sonic games? Production values or not, it doesn't make any sense to me.

You two are real suckers.

You peons haven't even begun to grasp the concept of this yet. The OC character's default name is Buddy. Can you imagine? Sonic and friends saying shit like "Hey, Buddy!" all throughout the story? Can you imagine the kind of autism such a blatant self-insert character is going to spawn from the new wave of kids who play this masterpiece?

Oh yeah, fans wanted a Sonic revolution and they're getting one. Just you wait.

Imagine if we got a completely polished 3D sonic game. I say imagine because Sonic Team has proven time and time again that they can't do that.

Jesus, that looks so fucking bland and boring. Just make a fully-3D game for fuck sake, Sonic Mania is arriving along side it which looks way better.

They've supposedly been working on this piece of shit for 4 fucking years and the best they could come up with was Generations 2, except even more watered down and casualized. It's obvious nobody at Sonic Team has a single solitary clue.

Isn't the main character of that game Sup Forums wanks constantly also called Buddy?

The Sonic cycle is alive and well.

I can imagine it and I want to observe it all from a reasonably safe distance but that very well may not be possible with the sheer magnitude that is incoming

What if the third character can be modifed on how the character feels to play (acceleration, top speed, turning radius and so on)

>A steel donut
>that font for the word "boom"
I love it

Sonic Team does it again!

We're lucky to get decent 3D sonic games at all is my position. The bar has been placed so low so many times.

>THEN WHY NOT JUST ADD MORE FUCKING LEVELS TO THE GAME SEGA

Because said levels are probably stupidly expensive to make.

Why does it look like Sonic stops in his tracks whenever he bounces off of enemies?

It's a 3D game with no 2D sections

If they just took all of the 3D stages from werehog all the way up through generations, changed the assets and music, mixed up the enemies, and made just a few new stages, would anyone really even fucking notice?

Actually the 2D levels in Gen have just as much shit going on...

Because the physics are shit

bullshit

Sup Forums has been autistically screeching ever since the teaser trailer dropped