At least we can all agree that Persona 5 is by far the weakest game of the 3 mainline persona games, right?

At least we can all agree that Persona 5 is by far the weakest game of the 3 mainline persona games, right?

>not as comfy anymore as P3/P4
>sojiro just a shitty version of dojima
>ending is just a massive asspull to present you a final boss
>too much femdom for insecure beta males
>boring and uninteresting main party
>no chemistry between party members
>male social links by far the worst in the series
>only one acceptable romance option
>worst velvet room attendant to date
>actual dungeons are a mixed bag, some of them are so fucking awful that they made the tartarus look good
>puzzles for actual toddlers
>music is mostly shit
>mascot character has too much control over your life
>questionable balance where 90% of the game is piss easy but sometimes they throw ridiculous enemies in your way that most likely will just kill you on your first encounter

It's a shame that we've been waiting for so long just to play a mediocre version of P3.

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Why do those japanese characters look like white people?

Do mirrors exist in japan?

White people wish to be so beautiful.
Most of them are ugly as sin in real life.

Wait, what? What makes p3-p5 'mainline' persona but not p1-p2ep can you explain?

>implying anything is worse than P4

Nice pasta

P4 did stuff better. I like their slinks over problem, fix it, they know you're the Phantom thief and it's time to bang.
P5 has way better style. But about the same substance.

>if I post this everyday people might start believing me

Sales and very famous life sim elements most probably.
Let's be honest, without it's life sim elements, persona is a shitty dungeon crawler than isn't much different from SMT.

Something something about marketing which turned into an industry standard.

i dunno. it's hard to determine what's the best or worse when every entry has its share of bad gameplay and writing. all that you can really base quality on is how big of a boner the waifus give you. At the very least persona 3 and 4s dungeon """design""" makes it impossible for them to ever be called the best if we were judging this series by the same standards of other games

Not saying that I reported your post OP, but it would be a shame if a moderator realized you only shitpost and repost at that
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/374969179/#374969179

Due to my Yusuke level autism I will take OP's post gravely seriously.

EVERYONE STAND BACK

>not as comfy anymore as P3/P4
SIGNIFICANTLY more "Comfy" than p3, at par or more so than 4. Even implying 3 was "comfy" is asinine
>sojiro just a shitty version of dojima
He had many more scenes than Dojima did, and felt significantly more like family towards the end.
>ending is just a massive asspull to present you a final boss
Implying 4 didn't do this 10 times worse
>too much femdom for insecure beta males
Do you actually want the band social link back from 4?
>boring and uninteresting main party
Tons of great scenes of characters becoming friends over time, as well as constant texting + mementos quips
>no chemistry between party members
See answer above
>male social links by far the worst in the series
IM FUCKING PLYING
>only one acceptable romance option
Regardless of who you like p5 is pretty much agreed upon to have some very lovable pics, Makoto Futaba Kawakami and Tae are all very liked
>worst velvet room attendant to date
Obviously loli is not your thing, Elizabeth a best though
>actual dungeons are a mixed bag, some of them are so fucking awful that they made the tartarus look good
Straight shitposting EVERYONE agrees this was an improvement here
>puzzles for actual toddlers
And yet everyone rages at shido's rat maze
>music is mostly shit
Mass improvements from p4's jpop-o-rama
>mascot character has too much control over your life
Yep
>questionable balance where 90% of the game is piss easy but sometimes they throw ridiculous enemies in your way that most likely will just kill you on your first encounter
So all persona games

Stop posting this.

Look! He posted it again!

Boy am I glad P5 filtered out some P3 and P4 faggots.
Keep making those threads and stay mad that the game you have nostalgia boner for got outclass by its successor in every single aspect.

lol fuck off nintenbro

>>too much femdom for insecure beta males
What?

What board rules did he break?

Global rules #3 & #6
Sup Forums rules #2, #3 & #4

I disagree.

Any game with morgana can only be the strongest :3

Not a single rule you listed was broken.

Learn the meaning of words and you'll realize rules were broken.

>I'm worried about X
>me too
>we should take care of X soon
>definitely
>i agree we got to stop this
>alright let's prepare for X tomorrow
>remember that exam thing too
>that is bullshit
>shut up Ryuji!
>I trust MC to handle this
>night everyone
>x10

Okay, you want to play retarded then let's go ahead and check up on those rules.

>GR3
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Nothing of that sort in the OP.

>GR6
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments

The OP post is neither lacking in quality nor is the picture of low quality.

>Sup Forums rule 2
>Flaming/flagrant "fanboyism"/etc. will not be tolerated.
There's nothing in that post that has anything to do with fanboyism or flaming. It's discussing how a game in a franchise compares to the other games in the same franchise.

>Sup Forums rule 3
>Threads should not devolve into flamewars. Instigating or encouraging such activity will not be tolerated.

Again, there is no flamewar here and nothing in the OP hints at one.

>Sup Forums rule 4
>Please refrain from reposting. If possible, try to skim the board for threads pertaining to your topics/info that may have already been posted.

There is currently no thread like this in the catalogue.


Guess not a single rule you listed was broken afterall.

let me guess you are pretending to be a retard right? just fuck off mate

>not as comfy anymore as P3/P4
>sojiro just a shitty version of dojima
>boring and uninteresting main party
>no chemistry between party members
>only one acceptable romance option
>worst velvet room attendant to date
Wrong

>ending is just a massive asspull to present you a final boss
So like Persona 4?

>actual dungeons are a mixed bag, some of them are so fucking awful that they made the tartarus look good
>puzzles for actual toddlers
At least it has actual dungeons and puzzles unlike 3 and 4.

Sorry user. You deserve to be BTFO like that.

>>Sup Forums rule 3
>>Threads should not devolve into flamewars. Instigating or encouraging such activity will not be tolerated.
>
>Again, there is no flamewar here and nothing in the OP hints at one.

>3 mainline persona games
What did he means by this?

>leblanc not as comfy
nigga what
>My nigga Jigen not as good as no-personality Dojima
nigga what
>ending that get hinted at a ton and even has hints that break the fourth wall is "an asspull"
nigga what
>too much femdom
nigga what only Sae is dom and you can't get with her
>uninteresting main party
How are Yusuke and Futaba and Morgana and Akechi uninteresting? Haru I'll grant
>no chemistry
nigga what Ryuji and Ann interact all the time and Morgana kicks the shit out of Teddie
>male s links
Only Mishima was terrible
>only one acceptable romance
Tae, Kawakami, Chihaya (only one that will actually move back to the country with you), Hifumi, Makoto, Futaba
>actual dungeons
Are far and away the best the series has ever had. Fuck random generation.
>puzzles are too easy!
It's Megaten, they're just there to break up the dungeons
>baww go to sleep
Max your kawakami link faggot
>wahhh I got mudo'd
git gud

I never thought about how true this is.

>Persona 6
>ANOTHER faggot has Susano'o

can we stop with this shit, Masao's was the only good one anyways.

I can't believe how bad they fucked up with Akechi.

>presents an opposing viewpoint that is not entirely disagreeable

>could have given the game a 'cat and mouse' feel, giving the game a much needed sense of urgency

>nope, just a psychopath

>proves once and for all that there is literally nothing the bad guys can do to earn hatred from the party, he admits he became a mass murdering, chaos inducing, scheming psychopath because daddy didn't love him and even the girl whose father he shot dead feels sorry for him, over that.

Then he's like 'I can make people psycho, this is how I caused those incidents!' and about 10 minutes later your party says 'Wait a minute! You are the one who caused all of those mental shutdowns!" a fact that he explained to them personally.

Dies the most meaningless death ever

But he was right, those rule were broken

Comfy is a buzzword for troglodyte fucks like you. Eat shit.

Stop shitposting
Haru says she feels sorry for him, but that she would never forgive him

Were you expecting an edgy american resolution in which you said: no, fuck you bro, u gonna die because u ebil?

How is anyone taking these OP seriously.

>At least we can all agree that Persona 5 is by far the weakest of the 3 mainline persona games, right?
>Persona 5
>3 mainline persona games,

Really warms up those neurons. No way this could be a joke.

Don't forget the dungeons!

>"So to get through this door we need to find the key!"

>"Where is the key? Maybe a VIP has it! Let's find the VIP!"

>Walk through a door to new area

> game stops you for another cutscene "We need to find the VIP! He hast he key, he's probably in that exact pot over there!"

It never stops telling you to do something, then stops you to tell you how to do it, in the mddle of you doing exactly that.

The only areas that was the case was combat and dungeon design. P3 had a better and more coherent story. P4 had better group dynamics. P5 has the exact same formula for every non mandatory slink.

>tfw you'll never get Persona games as kino as Persona 1 and 2

There's literally no reason to feel sorry for him, none, he's a literal serial killer who thought a petty complex justified fucking countless people's lives, the Phantom Thieves would probably feel sorry for Hitler if he was in this fucking game, Madarame confesses to letting and watching Yusuke's mum die and Yusuke says 'unforgivable, that and all the other crimes you committed!' then like a few scenes later 'even now I can't bring myself to truly hate him'.

Only person in the entire game, to have a believable, realistic reaction is Ann's absolute fury towards Kamoshida after beating him in his palace and to him trying to make everyone feel sorry for him in the school when he confesses.

So whatever, Akechi's motives ruined the character completely.

Kino is the german word for cinema. Unless persona 1 and 2 are physical locations where movies are aired they are not kino. No amount of Sup Forums and Sup Forums shitposting will change the meaning of the word.

>weakest
>not P4

sorry but no.

I disagree.

Whatever you say, not going to stop me from using it.

Shido's palace has some real shit to deal with, yes, but don't pretend like every dungeon is like that. Okumura's dungeon is the only other big offender due to those robot fights that require you to target certain weaknesses.

p3 still has the best story. But 5 is best in most ways

You seem to doubt the strength of a large no. of people all using a certain word in an incorrect manner. Eventually enough people will believe that Kino means X instead of Y and it'll take on an entirely new meaning.

>exact same thread again

lol

>mascot character has too much control over your life
this is literally the only correct statement in that entire post

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Why are those rules never enforced?

It wasn't just
>oh his backstory is so sad lets hug him :(
Akechi's past resonated with them because, if you paid any fucking attention at all, every single one of them was an outcast in some form or another, but Akechi was the only one who let it consume him. They even make it a point to say that he might not have turned out that way if he met them sooner. Akechi ended up a monster but the Thieves feel bad because they see themselves in him and know that they very well may have ended up the same way had they not all come together.

>literally

OP is clearly baiting, a gold star for effort though, good job bud

>Why is this allowed? At least we can all agree that after the dust has settled that this blunder of the century will NEVER EVER be on pc. APOLOGIZE. /Who/ here agrees?

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Well shilled.

>3 mainline persona games
>thinking mainline persona is only 3-5 when 1-2 exist

jesus christ man

Great pasta

Yeah, nah, he's a cunt. Thank God Haru met the PV before her father was murdered and was stopped from becoming a tyrant, or Joker whose life was efffectively ruined for doing the right thing, if he hadn't found Ryuji he might have started his line of killings with Sojiro!

>I'll just greatly exaggerate this argument to make it seem silly and therefore wrong

excellent strategy user

He didn't exaggerate it though, he just applied it to the other characters that user said were similar.
It's the same idea as Adachi, Namatame, and MC in P4, but done in a kind of rushed way.
I guess the writers assumed you played P4 and can fill in the gaps yourself.

It's irrelevant, no matter what the reason, some things are completely unforgivable and I'm just disappointed that the Phantom Thieves felt sorry for an unrepentant murderer because his daddy didn't love him.

In a way, this shows just how Kamoshida was the best villain in the game, he made you hate him and the characters hated him too so I felt like we were on the same page, the minute they started getting their small violins out for Akechi I was out,

I agree I guess, but it was no big deal for me.

I can't believe anons we're constantly "spoiling" the game by saying Goro was the traitor, as if that spoils anything.
Goro is a chump; he faked all his detective stuff by committing the crimes himself, of course the PT could trick him easily.

It's most certainly an exaggeration. Both the congition of the individual and situation they go through would effect how they turn out. Haru wouldn't suddenly become a tyrant, but who knows what would have become of her if she spent the rest of her life being resented and taken advantage of by her company employees and living under the thumb of her scumbag fiance? The whole point they were trying to make with Akechi's character, and just about every SLink, is that being an outcast can damage a person. Nobody in the main cast would end up as a serial killer, but seeing Akechi showed them that they could have easily fallen into complete despair and become warped just like he did.

>I'm just disappointed that the Phantom Thieves felt sorry for an unrepentant murderer because his daddy didn't love him

well yeah, I'd be disappointed too if that's all there was to it

Kamoshida is in fact the best villain though

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this is indeed some yusuke level autism but its the kind thats interesting to read

heres some yusuke wallpics

not even close jesus christ
fuck off contrarian

You don't think his backstory was completely rushed? He spent the entire game deceiving us, tried to kill us twice, then he admitted to causing everything and killing practically everyone, but because he gave us a quick run down of his '''''terrible''''' life suddenly he's a sympathetic character.

Let's not forget that his deception of opposing the thieves was a far more intriguing setup then what he became.

It's like he goes through a last minute character arc in 5 minutes. And you've got to love the 'have your cake and eat it' writing of having people like Haru say 'I can't forgive the dude, but I totally feel sorry for him' so she hates him but she totally doesn't because hating a guy who murdered your father is a huge no-no for a good guy, our heroes have to have the incredible spiritual maturity of Jesus apparently.

1 didn't age well at all.

Only 2 is worth a damn out of the hipster Personas.

Here's where I agree with you
>Game is too easy overall
>Morgana has too much influence on the MC's life
>Dungeons are hit and miss, and usually just become repetitive
Beyond that I'd add
>Akechi has terrible motivations
>Shido is just a cartoon villain
>Tacked on "stealth" felt like complete shit and was mostly just annoying.

Overall, the game is between an 8.5-9/10. It's really solid and would benefit from a timeline extension a la P4G. It could also greatly benefit from a direct sequel. Many of the issues (such as Morgana telling you to go to bed) are fixed in NG+ as your maxed SLs give you limited carryover of benefits, and your social stats remain maxed so it's trivial to get ones like Kawakami to maximum. Also, the repetitive dungeons are far better than P3 and P4s randomized ones, but I still would like them to be a bit more interesting.

Persona 5 is the best since 2 though?

Not saying 3 or 4 are not good but 5 is a titanic accomplishment and an instant classic

Eh it's not just Akechi, the last two dungeons are incredibly rushed. It works but it just keeps throwing shit every minute.

Maybe it's because he followed Kamoshida, but Madarame was the low point of the game for me, he's a Mementos level threat at best.

5 is a much more finished, cohesive art statement than 3 or 4. I think that makes it a much better product.

Something I absolutely love in P5 that I will feel missing when I play the older ones is the whole message board aspect and the fact that your team is the talk of the town. I always love reading peoples comments on the board or walking by. For some reason it gives a very comfy feeling knowing the world is watching you

Madarame and Kaneshiro do feel like filler.

I kinda agree, and I also don't like how the Palaces worked as "this person is kind of bad" to the ending suddenly saying "this person is scum, do you hate them yet? they're terrible."

Madarame was one of the worst in that respect. I feel like most of the issues with the game relate to them thinking casuals need everything explained 3 times.

Yeah Madarame felt like "yeah, this guy is a dick, and we have to save this kid because he's on the game's cover, but is this really an issue?"

>At least we can all agree

No

Not when it's slink story and group are weaker than previous games. Slinks are all the same formula. Story is dwarfed by 2 and 3 which are more cohesive. 4 has a better group dynamic and feels like a team. 5 is good but it has flaws..

I completely forgot who Kaneshiro even was until his shadow appeared in the Mementos dungeon.

How can a 17-year old be this THICC

Well Kaneshiro, by virtue of being a Yakuza probably deserved it, Madarame literally had to throw out 'Oh by the way I killed your mom because I'm so evil'.

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Persona 3's SLinks are terrible: Kenji, the bookstore, Chibihiro, the fucking network president...

None of them have anything meaningful to them. It's just fucking filler. With Persona 5 you at least have character development, you learn more and do more. You actually make a difference and build a confidant in them.

Just face it that you're blowing out your ass.

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I loved the dying guy in P3

> 'I wrote this book, everything dies in it, totally not related to my own condition, bi'

>Game comes out and Sup Forums loves it
>a million threads about people discussing and generally enjoying the game
>a month or so passes and everyone starts forgetting the game
>suddenly threads about how its dogshit and a bad game

Every fucking time fuck off

Nigga it's bait.

>You don't think his backstory was completely rushed?

It's not as rushed as you think. He talks about being an orphan more than once before you encounter him on the ship, and I'm pretty sure they give his backstory when they introduce his character on the talk show. The first time you see him actually upset is when his favor starts to tank with the public, which plays into how desperately he wants to be admired. He's also thirsty as fuck for Shido's approval in every scene with the two. It's not like he was a 100% normal and upstanding citizen with no issues who happened to kill people once in a while, his shit is foreshadowed quite a bit.

>but because he gave us a quick run down of his '''''terrible''''' life suddenly he's a sympathetic character

sym·pa·thy: understanding between people; common feeling
>>>common feeling
Yes, Akechi is supposed to be sympathetic. It doesn't mean that he is correct, that you should side with him, that he's a good person, or anything like that. It means that there is a common feeling. That feeling is "being an outcast," and even if the player doesn't sympathize with him they should be able to at least see why the cast does.

>she hates him but she totally doesn't because hating a guy who murdered your father is a huge no-no for a good guy

She does hate him, how the fuck does knowing a bit about what he went through negate her hatred for him? It doesn't. Just because she's not stomping and screaming I HATE YOU doesn't mean she doesn't feel it, especially with a more reserved person like Haru.

In p5 it's the same every time. Person has problem you fix it if they're a chick you can fuck them. they know you're the phantom thief. It's all the same fucking formula. Unjust situation that you have to help them with. Some are interesting but after a few you know where they all go. I wish they were better but they aren't.

>if I dumb things down to where they are all the same, people will think I'm good at arguments

Play the game kid, everyone has their own unique struggles and motivations.

>sojiro just a shitty version of dojima
Dojima was a busy policeman who had to learn how to be a better father from the protagonist. You help out Sojiro too, but you don't need to teach him how to be a better dad, he's fantastic at that already. I know this entire thing is copypasta and bait but this is the worst one on here. They're not the same character and Sojiro is clearly better, if you think Dojima is better it's just clear nostalgia.

Not gonna lie, I just wanted to finish and get over it already after some time.

I skipped a lot of text after some point, cause it was always the same shit or literally worthless unfunny smalltalk.

>random people in the city or school
>people in the subway
>people in the loading screen
>90% of the chats
>teacher
>questioning with sae

You can skip all of that without missing out on anything really.
The chat is the worst offender though, I think I skipped 20+ chats where they always worry if "current target" will fuck us and you always say something like "we'll be fine".

The team never really interacts with each other save for chats which are 99% of the time are garbage and their social links are rather mediocre as well.

Sae grew upwards
Makoto grew outwards

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What I didn't like is they dropped the season music.
That shit was cash in P3