This is Suguru Kamoshida

This is Suguru Kamoshida
He physically abused his students and blackmailed them to stay quest
He then proceeded to rape a 16 year old high school student by threatening to kick her off the volleyball team
Say something mean to him

my Hero
he did nothing wrong

He's Adachi if he had talent in volleyball.

So what happens when you brainwash these people? Are they overcome with guilt and go the police to confess? Or do they seriously just go on with life like nothing happened, and you're just supposed to accept that?

No need, he already ruined his whole life with the public confession.

This is the game's only flaw. Kamoshida dindu nuffin. Tough practices are essential for a winning team.

>He physically abused his students and blackmailed them to stay quest

lol

Their warped desires disappear, making them honest and thus so overcome with guilt that they willingly expose their own crimes.

He tries do commit a bit of the ol' sudoku after his change of heart.

>"Castle of Lust" trophy
>Turns into Asmodeus, the demon of lust
>Followed around by half naked Ann cognition
>His castle has constant Succubi and Incubus
>Ann wants to kill him after Shiho whisper's his name to her

Holy shit, he genuinely raped Shiho didn't he? It isn't just a passing theory after all.

This, in high school my football coach mandated that the upperclassmen fuck the underclassmen in the ass, and if he felt it was needed he'd do it himself. We went 4-8 but it was the thought that counts.

>he genuinely raped Shiho, didn't he?
it is a mystery

... They say the phrase "sexual abuse" multiple times about his antics. There's really no other way to take it, dude. Kamoshida is a rapist.

The only thing he did right was fuck some high school sluts who were literally asking for it with their short skirts and sexual stares

A well written game would have the thieves literally brainwash these awful people to use their positions of power for the betterment of society, effectively burying the truth, not getting the revenge they crave and forcing them to deal with the fact that they're basically mentally lobotomizing people.

Instead THE MEANIES WANNA DIE THEY FEEL SO BAD THEN THEY GO TO JAIL, WE HELPED YAAAAAAY!

>you'll never save her from getting raped
>you'll never experience her virgin pussy

He outright says that since Ann turned him down he had to "use Shiho instead"

The only possible way they could've made the implication more obvious is by outright saying it

It's beyond me how anyone thinks he didn't actually rape her and just got a feel of dem titties or something

>it's a adults are bad and teenagers who barely know shit about life are good episode

Stop.

Well they are a bunch of 16 year olds.

Kamoshida didn't rape her.
It was just the tip.

That basic moral theming is completely played out

Are you so illiterate that you wish to see more of the same?

A well written life would have your edgy ass kill yourself.

Instead GONNA GO SHITPOST YAAAAY!

They don't get to choose what stealing the treasure does, the writer does. They're just handed a scenario where they get to continue being immature and all their "are WE the badguys???" navel gazing is easily brushed aside and any decent counterpoint is delivered by raving madmen, essentially making them strawman arguments. Same problem with literally every ugly adult being evil and Sae being exempt from the pattern of the male antagonists (in a meta sense) because she's a purdy girl. It's fucking terrible because the writers are shallow morons.

You may talk shit about the guy but he is fucking jacked.
I bet Shiho was wet as fuck when they did it.

And sending the bad guys to jail/being so righteous that you have changed their feeble little minds ISN'T played out?

The last two Persona games were really fucking simple and on the nose, taking even the most predictable and overused moral dilemma and playing it in a way where there isn't actually a completely obvious answer would be an improvement here.

Fucking epic, bro.

That's fucking retarded. A much better idea would be having it be more vague about what guidelines it made people "feel remorse", and have the original morale dilemma at the start feel more legit. As it was basically "people feel bad about things that they should feel bad about by default" is what we're given and the entire idea is just thrown under the bus.

Grow up.

Why do you say that?

Fair enough, I'm just suggesting the route that would actually give the question some weight and have the heroes do something you could argue is actually wrong instead of "Guys we made the badguy a better person does that mean we're evil :(????" Keeping it vague and having differing results works just as well, if not better.

Have you never been in a situation where you could do something wrong and get away with no repercussions so you did the thing even knowing full well it was wrong?
It's like that.

People that haven't been laid and are bitter about it have a difficult time grasping scenarios in which people would not want to have sex.

>Maybe the good guys should have an actual conflict of interest instead of just being given a free, mostly guilt free solution.
>Wow kys grow up stupid

What's bugging you, user?

I fucked your queen.

I bet his rape doujins are really bad, post links to them so I can laugh at them!

Fuck you, I'll save her smile when Crimson is out.

They go back to the prison of having no desires other than for others to decide what's right for them. Seriously.

There's nothing more juvenile than wanting moral non-dilemmas to be the focus of pop-fiction

You are completely illiterate

They never say "sexual abuse" they say "sexually assaulted" which is very different.

>You'll never rape her
>She'll never be your paraplegic fucktoy.

>to stay quest
Dumb mobileposter.

Kamoshida did nothing wrong

>You're illiterate, uncultured even, if you don't want media, especially the kind kids and young adults are commonly exposed to, to even begin to try to question things instead of being vapid and to the point.

That's some pretty stupid logic, user. I don't have to think the guys at Atlus are my proxy-Voltaire to criticize their writing for being completely lazy instead of mostly lazy.

Shido, akechi and debatably madarame aren't ugly. Neither is okumura outside his spacesuit.

Excuse me?

Essentially, when you "steal someone's heart", you take away the justification they've been using to rationalize doing awful things. Without being able to rationalize their actions any more, they feel incredibly guilty about them. Otherwise they don't change much personality wise

I want to impregnate Ann and make Morgana babysit our child.

As Morgana fades away, Kurusu whispers, "I fucked you're waifu."

They do change personality-wise. They become complacent and believe everyone should just tell them what to do and accept their fates. Thus they end up in the prison of regression

this, no wonder I liked him

No, people are fucking retarded and don't know how to read. He said he sexually abusef female students and TRIED to have sexual relations with them. He pressured Shiho to have sex with him, and when she wouldn't he slapped her around.

>Just finished the fifth palace
This one fucking sucked. Tedium is the word that comes to mind for this palace and even the boss was shit.

...

You are a washed up olympic athlete who only wish the sex you had with your female students was as good as the ones you had at the village!

Have fun taking the silver medalists cherries because the best ones won't spread them!

Delete this

Sensei is for giving sensual handjobs while you're resting in her lap

Delete this.

>all thise highschool sluts throwing themselves at him
>taking advantage of that is considered evil
lol

Why didn't he take advantage of one who was actually willing then?

>tfw cant even cheat in vidya or else phantom thieves will kill you

He was trying to get Ann to go over to his place that day and I think she says to Joker that she "knows what that means" or something along those lines. Definitely sounds like he was about to fuck Ann, so yeah, he probably did rape Shiho. Or blackmail her into fucking him willingly I guess.
Is volleyball really that important she'd fuck her teacher just to stay on the team though? I guess he'd ruin her general reputation as well though or maybe get her expelled, and isn't not graduating high school practically a death sentence in Japan?

A vollyball team that was trained by an Olylimpic medalist is basically an automatic +1 on your university application. Especially since he brought the team to nationals.
Giving up that spot would have been bad for her, at least in the sense of joining another academic institution via her skills.

It could be that she thought it was just going to be another beating that day, which then escalated to rape. Could probably endure the former but not the latter.

>Kawakami does the same thing
>"omg she's best waifu"

Double standards, baka.

Also it was Shiho's sole source of pride, what really stung was when Kamoshida namedropped Ann and how she should be "thankful" she did it for her friend which made her feel utterly worthless as person.

Remember that she thought volleyball was the only thing she was good for. That's how most abuse cases work, the abuser tries to strip away the victims self worth in everything that the abuset doesn't have direct control over, and Kamoshida had plenty of time and opportunity to tear here down.

>same thing
>SAME

Not even a Kawakami fag but there's nothing remotely the same about them.

Kawakami specifically DOESN'T sleep with you for that exact reason user.
You gotta wait until college.

This, God Shiho must have been having a fuck awful day.

He deleted it, the madman

because they were ugly probably

>college

You fuck on Valentine's but by then I don't think you're her student anymore. Dating her as a student is unethical, but she has some of the best dates and her romance is pretty satisfying.

I haven't gotten Kawakami's valentines day date, is this real?

This. idk why faggots keep saying he raped Shiho. He only confessed to sexually harassing students. That can be either interpreted as trying to pressure Shiho for sex, or actual rape, but all signs point to just pressuring her for sex. When he confesses he only talks about what he's done to Takamaki and even during your final battle he still imagines Takamaki as his trophy.

>I will confess EVERYTHING to you all..
>But I'll leave out the part about fucking Shiho lol

Fucking her would make great fap material but stop being faggots and pushing this as canon.

Yes. It's heavily implied in most rank 10's they have intercourse as well, but Kawakami's isn't one of them, or at least other's hint much harder that they fuck, like Tae's for example.

Ann looks so cute wearing all of those clothes.

Tae gives you an aphrodesiac as part of her training.

Valentines day with her is pretty explicit.

He had that sex torture room in his Palace lined with photos of Shiho, and whatever he did was enough for her to attempt suicide. I think it's reasonable to assume the worst happened.

>her romance is pretty satisfying.

because given how the confidant went it makes sense why she would love you at the end. You do quite a lot for her. You make her comfortable with speaking to you about things she speaks to no one else about and even show her how much you care by visiting her in the hospital and going "give me their names" the last time she gets harassed by those leeches.

Social Links/Confidants are never really written for romance in mind so whether the romance feels good or not is all based on the context of what the story in it is about.

Does joker actually fuck the girls in valentines day?

All of the girls in the school wanted to be fucked by King Kamoshida. If anything he probably refused to fuck Shiho's aching pussy out of respect for Ann and that's why she tried to top herself.

Speaking of Kawakami, I understand why she specifically would need multiple flags raised for romance but I wish every single character did.

Ann's is the worst for this
>You have me
>You have the others

Choose the first one and you're dating now.

Don't know why it's not just translated as
>You have us
as opposed to "the others"

He just groped her.

>mfw hearing Joker chuckles at the end of the event if you decide to date her
Motherfucker knew he was just playing around.

Visiting her in the hospital was a nice touch, even if it wasn't for anything serious, you definitly feel more comfortable and closer to the character like you said.

Yes. I think the only one that isn't so heavily implied it Haru.

I was surprised when getting to that point in other confidants. Tae immediately backs off if you say its for exams, given Kawakami's I thought there would be a couple more for each female character.

I heard a similar thing happened with Futaba's. Since her choices are either "I love you" or "we're teammates".

>Makoto
>"I've been waiting for you for so long...I'm not asking too much, am I...?"

Totes

>He had that sex torture room
It was literally just a hidden room with pictures of Shiho. None of them lewd. He didn't have statues of Shiho's ass placed around the castle or had his own version of Shiho walking around even after Shiho jumped or says that Ann was replaced with Shiho. You see the same cross in the hidden room which was going to be used to kill Ann in her "dismantlement" show.

Then why would he hide JUST that during his confession.

>A highschool girl wants to kill herself because a teacher touched her butt
I don't think that makes sense user.

>Chooses team mates
>Gets a unique animation of high-five
Worth every penny.

I don't think Futaba's is as bad as Ann's. She asks why you're helping her so the teammates line kind of fits.

Atlus had to be subtle in this in order to not raise their age rating further.

Yeah I don't think it's as bad as Ann's, but I don't know it just doesn't sound very personal I guess? Or the second choice could have sounded more personal than that.

Or because he said she had to fuck him or lose the one thing she still attachef self worth to, was getting the shit beaten out of her, and her best friend was being threated with the same treatment.

It's M, short of straight up porn it's practically impossible to get an AO.

You heard me

Does the M stand for Mishima?

I'm probably the only person who felt bad when this happened

Wouldn't surprise me.