"its bad because its not the exact same"

>"its bad because its not the exact same"

I've not heard one coherent argument as to why this is a bad game, not a bad "dawn 2.5" as you wanted, but a bad GAME.

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>focus on multiplayer esports cancer
>8 maps, 3 races, and only one MOBA-esque game mode
>units that were previously available to every army are now locked behind the elite system

the fact that they use 40k , in which there are almost endless factions they could've had and yet we only get marine, eldar, and orks

spoilers for people who haven't finished the game

this
Not buying until they release imperial guard and chaos at the very least.

That's not really much of a spoiler when we've been shown Necron style structures everywhere in gameplay videos and trailer. The only surprize would be if they weren't in.

can't wait to be able to rape tanks with nothing but basic units again

Can you please spoil it some more? How does the story end. Are there any units in the game or is it just a shitty teaser after the credits or some shit?

>forgot this game came out 27th
>no pre order bonus anymore
>no playable necrons
>no playable IG

any reason to buy this now?

I feel the nids won't make it in, feels bad they will forever be stuck in dow2.

its shit just because there's tonnes of shills trying to shove this game in my ass.

If Blizzard had released HotS and called it "Starcraft 3" people would be pissed. This isn't any different.

3 RACES
CHAOS IS NOT ONE OF THEM
BLOOD RAVENS AGAIN
i dont mind the moba MP tho

I only played the MP in the beta but the MOBA shit is so bad. It's incredibly restrictive to creative play and makes games static and dull.

>uses the baby carrier fan-art of the cover

You're not tricking anyone.

>necron are to blame for the moba mechanics

Is this game the Dawn Of War version of this?

CoH1 with DoW skin

There. A good 40k game and far better than 3.

All the units are tiny and only really identifiable by their icon. The tower is awful and only exists to extend match length.

Why are RTS games so afraid of macro mechanics?

Players need to be taught to do more than clicking attack

Thats literally the reason why dow3 is shit.

No one fucking wants your shitty macro spam bullshit. They want big fun battles like dow 1 offered.

Youre type of idiot thinking killed SC and DoW.

One moba game mode, casual dumbed down as fuck game, elites are kinda shit, no cover, animations are meh at best.

Macro rts is already taken and held by starcraft, nothing will trump the little bs that has going. DoW 1 was all about big scaled battles, 2 became smaller squad based cover wars. 3 is just kinda make a deathball and roll.

>>"its bad because its not the exact same"
absolutely epic strawman

is it me or does this game have particularly toxic players already?

The orks are still fun in this game.
That abomination you posted not even Kane could save it.

the orks are the only fun in the game, they need to have a waaaagh truck, that would make them even more fun

>Voice acting isn't on par with their previous titles
>Same for animations
>Same for graphics (which are below any RTS released in the last few years like BFG,Grey goo, Man of War 2, Ashes of Singularity and especially their cousin total war warhammer.
>Dumbed down mechanics such as cover and the base building manages to be way more shallow than dow1
>NO LADDER
>NO OBSERVERS both basic features of any RTS
>8 maps across 3 modes
>only 3 factions
>Overall the most expensive DoW game with the least content ever released.

And don't get me started on balance, though having played relic games since homeworld it doesn't surprise me the fact that alone will be a shitfest for the next 2 years.

So now shill,care to justify this?

all online games are toxic, it's just the NA community

>just got paid
>want to buy it
>reading this thread

idk this seems worse than usual, almost as if the MOBA audience found its way here, except its worse because they get super triggered when you call areas 'lanes' or something 'top/bot/towers

Where do you live? If youre on asia, the game is only 30 bucks

Just russians as per usual. Already got hatemail in cyrilic.

Don't do it

I didn't listen and it plays just like a fucking moba..

If you want a real 40k RTS buy soulstorm then install the ultimate apocalypse mod. Make sure it's the package with the Tyranid/Daemons/Daemonhunters mob

I've heard from rumors that the game has been dumbed down to a MOBA. Tell me this ain't so. Not my Dawn of War...

No thanks

it's not rumors, if it had legit RTS game design people wouldn't be comparing it to MOBAs

Threadly reminder, the op tower that eternally BTFOs Sup Forums can be killed in 12 minutes by a drunk russian with two asm squads and a dred.

reported

>Playing an RTS game for singleplayer
OH GOD MY FUCKING SIDES!

POINT AND LAUGH, POINT AND LAUGH AT THE CASUAL FAGGOT

>literal scrubs who never played DoW 2 Retribution Elite mod MP thinking their opinions are relevant

You dont even need the marines. A single dred can just kite around it punching it to death.

>UA good
No, it's unbalanced abandonware.
Contrarian nostalgia posters please leave.

>dred at the 12 min mark

I swear if you are talking about high res I'm going to kill you

Switch Dark Crusade and Soulstorm you massive faggot

>I've not heard one coherent argument as to why this is a bad game

only 3 factions
escalation is a dumb mechanic
elites are way too powerful compared to baseline units

DoW1 is calling you back boys

USA

no basebuilding multiplayer? god fucking dammit. is the campaign at least good?

High res literally the only way to have fun in this shit show of a game. Normal res is much like dow2 and losing a single squad means you lose the initiative. High res is when you wan to play it like dow1 with big ass armies

>escalation is a dumb mechanic
why?

I'd hold off unless you are REALLY desperate to play it.

Game hasn't sold great so far, so I'd expected a 20-25% sale within a few months.

This game is garbage regardless, if you want super casual retarded fun do as this guy said At least that mod actually has titans.

This

No I don't mean high res, I mean in a normal match made game.
Versing eldar ranger spam, Heavy asm into dred killed the core in 12:34

I got both DoW 1 and 2 as parts of a Humble Bundle and I was shocked to see that I enjoyed DoW1 WAY more than 2.

There is 100% basebuilding. Anyone who unironically claims this game is a MOBA must be drinking their paint water.

lazy attempt to artificially divide a match into early/mid/endgame phases

>elites are way too powerful compared to baseline units
My plasma rifle tactical squads have no issues wiping enemy 2-4 point elites.

Yeah sure, was the opponent afk?

>I've not heard one coherent argument as to why this is a bad game

I doubt it. There's plenty of stuff to read, you're just dismissing many details your don't like.

What does it actually do that offends you so?
Its not like it stalls the early game, if you lose your first 3/4 squads early its an instant gg.

>DoW II
>Feb 2009

Jesus Christ where does the time go.

The problem is that the core is put too far away from bases that destroying their bases is pretty much a non objective

I wish it was fucking insta GG but instead phase 1 refunds you for 25% of your losses, which means that you are still not coming back if the other guy is smart enough to rape your gens for mass resources income but it's still gonna pointless drag the game on.

there is more units here than ever before in dow. Also the devs have openly stated they arent focusing on any esport things design wise. Just becauase you're trash at micro doesnt mean its pandering to esport

Shill

shitty teaser after credits

I'm not going to look up the stream but it's inconsequential go watch a 1v1 game played by someone more competent than people who got beta invites trying to kickstart their gaming youtube channel.
1v1 games in dow3 rarely go past 20 minutes, that 12 minute example was the fastest i've seen without a gg.

the fanboys are only blowback to the hordes of screaming 40k kiddies whining about the game

No, dark crusade was shit.

And you can take down a tower in lol in under 5 minutes, it's still there to pad the game length out and protect babby while he figures out how to put buildings down.

no

>"its bad because its not the exact same"

except dow2 was generally well received and it isn't the exact same thing as dow1

it's honestly worth it

what a sick contrarian opinion you have there about the widely regarded best game in the series

mobashit

.......do you have any idea what a moba is

Lol has 3 turrets per lane and two defending the nexus, dow3 has 1 at each entrance to the base.
Also you couldn't really ever take out the base towers in dow2 but no one ever called them moba mechanics.

Yeah dow2 sucked too why were those towers even there

Theyre all good games. Sup Forums is just people shit posting. Remember how the witcher 3 was apparently terrible and a failure?

>Dow 2 sucked
Please I want off mr nostalgia's wild ride.

Yeah, can't wait for 8th ed.

I agree with him, soulstorm was better. I'm a grill btw.

>entire thread full of people who judge an RTS by its singleplayer and have never touched DoW 2 Elite mod multiplayer, the best iteration of MP in the DoW series

Not with those graphics and textures its not.

Yes I fondly recall popping in that disk only to find the sequel wasn't very fun and ork voices were terrible. Also a lisping gay man voiced the tyranid announcer.

Oh happy days.

GTFO retard

Have you ever actually played those games?
Do you realize that you can play the races from the older games in the newest installment of the game if you own the old one too, meaning everyone just plays SS because it allows them to play all the old races too?
You're a genuine fucking brainlet
>GTFO
And a newfag redditor too.

I love both DoW 1 and 2. DoW3 is utter shite, weird simple shit that does not ring any bells from any previous game.

SHAME

Are you retarded or is this just bait?

GTFO you casual faggot you dont know shit about DoW

I will always take the game that's fun to play but visually dated over the one that plays like ass but looks slightly less dated.

The tyranid hivemind's VA is a woman.
youtu.be/etm3Z8E4F18?t=4m

>Every franchise thread ever on Sup Forums

>REEE the first game (that I never played because it came out before I was 10) was the best and only good one because *insert list of made up reasons I just copied off Sup Forums*
>Following games were casualised trash
>The current game is mobile/moba/sjw

It's reading a book and expecting the outcome to change

It's bad because it's exactly like footmen frenzy, which I played and got bored of over a decade ago.

DC > SS

DC was shit, people trying to defend it clearly never played the game let alone against other human players.

What's the first elite you got to level 10? Mine was the Gorkanaut because I REALLY wanted that doctrine that lets you reinforce squads at Waaagh! Towers.

MOBA SHIT SUCKS DICK

YOU DESERVE TO FAIL

People remember single-player rtses fondly.
Multiplayer rtses are ladder grind that you'll forget about the second the e-sports community forgets about it.
And nobody in e-sports will ever give a shit about this game, so it has no hope.

THREADLY REMINDER THAT THIS IS STILL IN THE GAME youtube.com/watch?v=m-ri8rWyo4c DAWN OF WAR 3 IS EMPIRICAL SHIT ROFL