THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES

THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES

>His soul is still weighed down by gravity

>Don't fuck with this Prime Minister

THIS INSANE WORLD OF OURS

I will block them.

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PLAYED COLLEGE BALL YOU KNOW

Wolves hunt in packs, Arisen!

>I've killed everyone who ever worked for me because I don't leave loose ends
>Say, how would you like to work for me?

For a supposed evil mastermind, he doesn't come across as very smart.

I just realized that the line at the bottom is his mouth and hot his chin

Your appointment to Prime Minister should be finalized within the week.

AT SOME CUSHY IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL

A RIVER IN A DRY LAND

TRY UNIVERSITY OF KYOTO

cognition

Oh shit, I didn't know that.

If Samael was converted into a persona, it would basically be a punch ghost.

>some kind of Kamiya/Char/Armstrong hybrid
Persona 5 is nuts.

user please

Considering Shiido has backstabbed most of his allies, I highly doubt his deal was anywhere close to being genuine.

a dragon punch ghost

this is a game where an ace detective is foiled by pancakes

>Goro
>ace detective

He's a fake detective, just solved cases he caused himself.

more like ace defective!

he was still supposed to be a genius despite that

Some genius.

>he was still supposed to be a genius despite that
Says who? Goro who let the fame get to his head and auto-convinced that he was some sort of legendary detective?

yeah that was my point he wasn't really a genius practically despite the game claiming he was one

He was just an assassin who got away with it because anyone who knew about the metaverse before the PT was with Shido or taken care of.

>Assassinates best girl before the game starts
He cannot be forgiven.

says all of the main characters, mostly makoto, when they're talking to him before he dies.

he also does most of the work during sae's palace

There wasn't anything that indicated he was especially clever after the truth behind what was previously making him seem smart was laid bare.

>he was supposed to assume that when he heard about pancakes, it was being spoken by a talking cat who only persona users can hear

yeah ok bud

>DUDE COINS LMAO
I think him doing most of the work in the Casino only illustrates how fucking retarded the rest of the group is.

He completely carries the group through the casino palace and moments before his sacrifice the Makoto is like "wow you're so smart and awesome we would've never had a chance unless we all ganged up on you".

Naoto wasn't impressive either. Detectives haven't been the same since those Kuzunoha boys went out of business.

The game doesn't claim he is a genius. He solved the cases he commited. He just did it because he loved that Ace Detective persona.

is it really akechi's fault for not suspecting that the MC had a cartoon talking cat that only metaverse users could hear

>TFW Yosuke is a better detective than Naoto

>Can't play as a FeMC
>Can't marry him
>Can't make Japan great again, TOGETHER

she never said it was because he was smart that they couldn't have beaten him without ganging up.. it was because his persona and stats were insane. he was just strong. Why do you lie?

>that one move where he takes an extra turn, nullifies your buffs, buffs himself a little and attacks everyone
What a cunty dude, how is the game on NG+?

I don't know user maybe you should've paid attention to the game

>yosuke didn't become a famous whacky bumbling detective who shits himself on air.

>Villain's plan blew up in his face because he decided to get drunk one night a year ago.

Goro was clearly a pretty smart guy and the team's saving grace was him slipping up with a talking cat he couldn't see with some pretty crazy arbitrary rules and a generally unbelievable existance. Even then the actual plan they make to ruse him is overly elaborate and required the team to basically throw it all on convincing Sae at the end.

it's not like his plan would've ever really got off the ground to begin with without akechi though

>Joker doing it solo.
Probably possible with Igor's guidance.

>The rest
NOPE

So any reason why they used Kamiya for Shido?

If people who have been to the metaverse can understand Morgana why couldn't Sae understand him?

She never heard him talk in the Metaverse so her cognition doesn't perceive him as talking.

Wouldn't the same be true for Akechi?

You have to hear Morgana talk first

Yeah I didn't really get that either.

Sae didn't know she entered the metaverse when she did, either.

Was the TV studio before or after the second palace? Akechi was in Madarame's palace as well, he may have been spying on them.

He was at Madarame's, he probably eavesdropped on them

maybe you need a Persona to hear him

He's a Persona-user already. He doesn't need to hear him talk to understand.

Good call, didn't think about that.

You need a persona to comprehend him as he is related to the velvet room, only people with the potential can hear him. Morgana guessing that it was a change in cognition was a mistake as he was not aware that he was created by igor.

>Akechi's plan fucked up because a girl could hack his phone in 10 seconds

This is why Futaba is worst girl with her "le super hackergirl" bullshit

I'm so happy they let the rest of the party acknowledge the Velvet Room for once like in 1/2.

The entire P3 cast goes to the Velvet Room in the Answer

Either way philemon would have cucked demiurge.

That also happened in 3, 4 and even Q man.

I'm just glad we got the Velvet Room actually being in danger.

The Answer doesn't exist.

The ass would have made it worse

THE LAST ACE IN A LOST HAND

>Answer
>Canon

>He goes back to the palace crafted by the ignorant masses after you steal his treasure

it's not that great but it's still canon

Because he's making video games great again.

Didn't play Answer. In 4G they just talk to Margaret but don't interact with it directly.
Q is just fanservice that shouln't be taken seriously from what I understand.

>TFW Kamiya's palace is Scalebound

What, do you mean he'd have taken back the Velvet Room anyway?

a fucking cup

They said specifically that you just need to hear him speak in the Metaverse. Then your brain comprehends that he can actually talk and you can hear him in reality too.

just because they say that doesn't mean they're right. They were guessing

In 4G they never actually enter the room, but it's fairly obvious that they know it exists. They'd have to be particularly stupid considering they've all become friends with Marie and had an explanation directly from Margaret.

Q is definitely canon for some reason, but nobody besides the Velvet Siblings remember what went down in that game due to plot reasons.

>He was just an assassin who got away with it because anyone who knew about the metaverse before the PT was with Shido or taken care of.

Hell I bet that the crazy hobo assassin would probably be a better assassin than Goro if he had access to the metaverse.

It's the only stated reason to understand him in the game which provides no alternate answers. Sometimes something just is what it says it is.

It's been a while since I played 4G so I might just be wrong, but I remember the IT reacting to it in a pretty dumbfounded way that made it seem like they genuinely didn't comprehend what they were being told.

Look dude, The Answer is the single worst thing in the entire SMT franchise. It's awful in almost every aspect, but it's still canonical. The Answer's events are acknowledged in P4A, which is also canon (P4A's events are mentioned briefly in P4G during the epilogue).

Armageddon R that fuck

>That fat-lipped teacher tells you in one class how the heart on a suit of cards represents the holy grail

COULD'VE GONE PRO IF HADN'T JOINED THE AIR FORCE

Pretty sure they acknowledge that it's where Yu get's his different Persona's at the very least, and it's not like the rest of the Thieves had an in depth understanding of the Velvet Room either.

Why do igors assistants call him master when he is also just a doll made by butterfly mask man

>P4A is canon

More like, Ace Defective

I like how it's canon that the protagonist goes brain dead, staring off into space for like 10 minutes while he's in the velvet room

Ultimax too. So you know how the entire plot of that game was Adachi being shunted out of prison for some reason to team up with Yu for a super epic double attack on some random big bad no one cares about and then going back to prison? Canon.

Because it's a hierarchy, I guess.
Phil > Igor > attendants

Lavenza was the one in the butterfly form this time, right? It's weird that Philemon didn't directly interevene at all.

Dancing All Night is also canon, wherein Izanagi gets an electric guitar.

It's a bass

>This is a real, canon character in the Shin Megami Tensei universe

Don't like, two of the Personas get trumpets or something equally embarrassing?

>don't forget, he has a super edge alternate personality

Because that doll was made for the purpose of being master of the velvet room. Philemon is just the master of the master.
He doesn't want to get punched again.