First time she plays shogo without cheating

>first time she plays shogo without cheating
>jobs hard and quits

Kek what a shitter after all the time in the confident acting like she was god tier at it.

*ahem*

The word you are looking for is shogi.

If you are going to make fun of characters at least make sure you get your facts straight. ^_-

Man I wish I could play Shogo with her instead

OP can never recover from this.

123 is best girl and the rest are acceptable aside from Ohya

The I was close to the O

Doesn't change the fact that she talks so much smack but can't back it up

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do not berate my wife for her inability to compete against professionals

i don't know where i'd have been without togo system, clearly her intellectual skills are versatile beyond board games

She has never actually cheated and she didn't quit shogi.

She probably thinks she has good pussy game too but is shit in bed

lmao hifumi a fuckin loser she should sudoku not shogi

>She has never actually cheated

Matches were rigged to make her think she was good

Then when she plays one that isn't rigged shes quits the match

Wait, she cheated?
I didn't really do her slink

She didn't know the matches were rigged until later on, though. After she got to know Joker.

She never knew about it though so she herself never cheated.

That doesn't change the fact she sucks ass at Shogi on a real level

You spent all your time learning from a shitter

same thing

Well yeah I'm not saying she's not bad, but she didn't actually cheat.

You still get knowledge boosts and very useful skills for battles.

The heck are you talking about? Her mom was buying out matches but she had no clue what was going on. Also if you haven't played chess or shogi you probably shouldn't comment on it like you understand it. When you are outplayed and your king hyas no moves left, you generally resign. Gotta find some better bait.

>Quit
But she didn't?

Oh boy what is it cheating bullshit business?
She actually isn't playing well at all? Why do I need to max knowledge for her then?

Jesus christ, is there even a single non-bullshit girl in this game?
Now I'm convinced Fatlus is doing this on purpose.

Goddammit.

What the fuck is with that smile. I'm spooked.

your waifu is fucking cheater lol

She doesn't suck. She is decent at best considering she taught Joker how battle strategy and shit. She just got rekt hard by a pro shogi player.

>rage quits her first real pro match
>teaches you to rage quit encounters without repercussions

assuming shes my waifu when I never suggested that and not just correcting the record. Cmon now.

She didn't knowingly cheat. Her mom blackmailed her opponents without her knowledge.

Your move, shonen

her mom knows she's the shittest shogi player ever

Doesn't matter

The whole town talked as if she was a god at shogi

You come all the way to the church to play with her, needed max knowledge to prorgress her, just to find out she's only good for rigged matches and is exposed on the stage with no bullshit.

She actually does beat a pro at the end, though. Which is quite impressive at her age. Just not the best in the country.

>Sup Forums went from shitting on Ann,Futuba, Makoto, Haru and now Hifumi is the next target

Loving this Agenda

>she could have been a party member with her mom as the chapter boss

She's more deserving than Haru. Hifumi's Confidant benefits easily could have fit into the story.

t. Hifumi

>knowledge is the hardest stat to level
>hifumi gives 1 note of knowledge
>kindness is the 2nd easiest stat to level
>tower and heirophant give 3 notes of kindness per visit
>proficiency is the easiest; hanging with the hanged man gives you 3 notes too
Who balanced this shit?

Also, would you a playable Hifumi?
>Persona: Boudica (evolves to Brynhildr)
>Battle focus: status effects, almighty spells and Debilitate or Dragon Hustle
>Design: Showa-era Japanese military uniform (think Raidou, but with gold/red accents)
>Firearm: bolt-action rifle
>Weapon: Spear

Seriously, she's the only school-age confidant that isn't affiliated with the Phantom Thieves. It's clear she was meant to be playable, and the existence of that weird puzzle in the Pyramid township suggests she would get her Persona in there.

>>first time she plays shogo without cheating
>>jobs hard
She didn't job, in order to job you need to be good to begin with because jobbing needs someone skilled/powerful to lose just to show off how much better their opponent is. To the person she was playing it was another day of crushing an amateur.

Knowledge is also the one you accumulate the most of just by playing the game. You get a ton simply for answering questions in class so it makes sense that it would require more points to rank up.

Yes please that sounds great.

> find out she's only good for rigged matches and is exposed on the stage with no bullshit.
Didn't she come clean with the public the moment she found out? Exposed implies she just continued until she was found out

Yes but to us the game made it out to us she was literally a god at shogi even faggots in the MC's school gossiping about her.

First time we see her in a real match no strings attach she is exposed so yess can still be interpreted as jobbing

Why is she so fucking cute

Because in a Japanese game, she's the only one that looks oriental.

I just want a teammate with Rakunda.
That's all. Debilitate would be great, and Goro actually has it as a Lv70 ability, but sparing Joker a turn doing that himself would be fucking fantastic.

>knowledge is the hardest
>was the first I maxed
>proficiency is the easiest
>last I maxed

wew

Her mom didn't give a shit about Shogi and just saw her daughter as a source of income (she still cares I think, but wants to control everything going on in her life) so scheduled all these interviews and magazine shoots to spread her daughter's image while Hifumi unknowingly won matches that were rigged from the start. This is found out shortly after she told Hifume to lose an upcoming match so that she has a flashy comeback boosting popularity even more.

Shogi is often said to be the sport/game with the by far widest gap between Pros and everyone else. Just because you can't beat a Pro doesn't mean you aren't good, it's more that it takes an absolutely absurd amount of effort and talent to become a Professional, much more than in stuff like chess or most physical sports.

Her mother pressured all her opponents to lose on purpose without Hifumi's knowledge.

The moment I first heard of her I thought she was gonna be a member until I found out you just talk a bit then possibly date, seemed out of place.

>knowledge is the hardest stat to level
>hifumi gives 1 note of knowledge
>proficiency is the easiest; hanging with the hanged man gives you 3 notes too
Hifumi only gives one note to show that she's not as good as people thought, but knowledge is easy as hell to max in P5 especially with all the rainy days where you have absolutely nothing else to do except go to the Diner for +3 Knowledge and +1 in another stat, it was my first maxed stat followed by Kindness, Charm, Proficiency and Guts, almost missed the last Iwai rank up because of it.

Also Boudica would be retarded as a starting persona in a game where every starting persona is a thief and/or outlaw except for Futaba who somehow has it as her second persona and Makoto who doesn't have any unless you consider that Johanna stole her rank.

>would be retarded except x
Man

Hmph. Looks like you're asking for it, kid. Nothing personal.

* JUDGEMENT: SACRED HIDDEN HELLFIRE DESTRUCTION!! *

>Hifumi needs max intelligence to finish confidant
>Haru needs max proficiency
>Sojiro max kindness
>Makoto max charm

Who needs Max guts?

Hifumi you're a cute. Please be idol.

Iwai.

Boudica is basically because I can't come up with anything better that doesn't impinge on someone else's theme/imagery, and that's also Female.

Iwai, you can't get his mementos mission for rank 8 without 5 in guts.

Iwai needs rank 4 I think.

Don't forget
>Need max knowledge to get past a certain rank with her
>Still gives 1 knowledge note after that stat gate
What's the point, I already had to get it maxed to get there, so giving me more INT points is worthless.

this. if togo-chan could beat a pro at her age she'd be a fucking prodigy

She would have been the absolute fucking best character if she had a Persona and was all chuuni while using it

There's multiple personas that could work, Pandora who in some stories stole the box before opening it, Fujiko could work too but would imply that MCxTogo is the canon couple way too much, Groac'h who is an old butter-stealing woman by day and a fairy by night, Son’ka, a russian female diamond thief but if we want to keep her as the chief of a group, the best for Hifumi would then be the forty elephants gang, a gang of female thieves from Britain.

Yeah, I don't see the point either, it's the same with kindness and Sojiro, you still get 3 notes after the rank where you have to max kindness

I would beat her in shogi so much she'd despair and retire

I'd rather she have Goro's sabers for her melee weapon instead.

That's exactly what she is played up to be though. The way the game portrays her at first you'd think she was well on her way to become the world's first female Meijin, then later on you find out she's still an amateur and even later that her mother fixed all her important matches. She probably has some potential, but you very quickly find out she is far from the Shogi god she was supposed to be, herself realizing and coming to terms with that is the primary factor in her social link's resolution.
She's obviously way better than most people and it sounds like she could easily use Shogi to make a living, but actually becoming a Pro and that are two separate things.

>She uses made-up attack names whenever she casts skills
I'm sold

There's a reason the only thing she teaches you is ways to run away.

And how to make twice as much jew gold from finishing ambushes in 1 set of turns.

Also why hasn't there been fanart of her cosplaying as Lilim yet? You'd think people would make some after her mom's shadow was Lilim.

She teaches you to swap party members too.

Swapping party members is just another way of running away when your party members don't cover the right weaknesses.

>Her stuttering and blushing after you start dating
That was when I knew I made the right choice

>reject her by telling we're friends
>makes a surprised face
>O-of coure! We're friendly friends in a firendly rivalry made of friendship! Because that's what we are, friends! Yep, very friendly friends!

That's when I knew I made the wrong choice.

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She's actually really boring on dates.
Too shrinking violet. Not enough chuuni.
Even on Christmas/Valentines the most generic responses are always the ones that reward the most notes.

I blame Makoto for stealing half her characterisation.

Makoto was a mistake.

>Makoto
>characterization

Hifumi is the worst girl in the entire series, honestly

MUH SHOGI, please kill yourself Stop forcing this meme

every time you talk all I hear is my grandmother's decrepit-ass vagina spewing out vaginal blood.

She's boring during everything you dumb fuck

"It's a strong card, one that gives hope to those on the ground below. It shines in times of need. But, eventually, it is destined to fall to the earth and disappear... Even I can feel the sadness of this inescapable destiny..."
—Margaret, Persona 4

Wow it's almost as if people of the star arcana are meant to fucking fall, like LUCIFER, her ultimate persona. have you ever tried to use your brain OP?

I'm pretty sure she was supposed to be a party member or her design was going to be used but they just made her a social link

That's not true

She doesn't even have concept persona art like every other member

what a weird complaint
just because her story is connected to her arcana doesn't really contradict anything the OP was saying though

>everyone gets one buff/debuff
>only Rakunda and Haru left
>does Haru get Rakunda? NOPE.
Fuck you Atlus.

They scrapped the idea early, but she was supposed to be a party member at the start. Then they changed some stuff around and ended up creating Makoto in her place but kept her as a social link.

it kinda does. she jobs in the end but doesn't quit, she vows to get better. and she WAS god tier at shogi, compared to a novice like joker. she also said she was the best at her school and age level (those matches weren't fixed).

It's ok, I love her anyway!

is there any article or interview that says the idea was scraped early or anything like that?

>and she WAS god tier at shogi

Joker was never paraded as being a god at it

She was and then when put to the test bitch was washed LIVE

Haru was already strong enough. Add Rakunda and she'd hit massive levels of OP.

She needs shogi hlephelper

Not really, it'd give an incentive to actually use her in the late-game. There's no reason not to use Ryuji and Ann once they get Charge and Concentrate and then your 4th slot is most likely going to go to either Morgana or Makoto for healing. If she had Rakunda, it'd definitely make the choice harder.

There's a really good source it's called Persona 5

If you stack the gun bonuses, OSK/triple down does stupid amounts of damage even without a charge bonus. Plop auto-mataru or an auto-taru accessory on her and she tears apart normal encounters more than the MC was for me. I will say, though, that the severe/all (blazing hell?) concentrated made the final boss way too easy.

That doesnt answer the question. I always see people saying they scrapped the idea early on in development but I haven't seen where people got that. I was curious at what point did they move Hifumi from being a party member.

There is no concept art for her persona, that's how early she was cut