Are games better than they used to be?

Games 15-20 years ago were almost impossible to ever beat, most people never saw the end of most of their games.

When you did manage the herculean task to actually beat the game it was almost always one screen saying congratulations or something. So few people saw it that it wasn't worth wasting that much effort to make a good ending.

Now, almost every game is beatable by almost anyone fairly easily, the question isn't how hard the game is, it's how long does it take to complete.

Are games better this way or were they better before? I know I put way more hours and they retained heir value far longer in the past than games do today.

>Games were impossible to beat in 2002

hurr

>almost impossible to ever beat
Must suck to be a fucking casual.

>Games 15-20 years ago were almost impossible to ever beat, most people never saw the end of most of their games.
They were games, not movies.
It's like being ham planet unable to run, or even walk, and complains sports in general require you to be fit/not a fat lard.

>Games 15-20 years ago were almost impossible to ever beat,
Hey look, another meme! Games 15-20 years ago were easy as fuck from what i remember. And Call of Duty\Assassin's Creed are not the only game in this generation. Also they were pretty short, despite the memes.

haha oh wow

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They were better back then, difficulty keeps away causal millenial shitters

>Games 15-20 years ago were almost impossible to ever beat
>impossible to ever beat
>15-20 years ago

Are you implying games from around 2000 were hard? Games like super mario 64 and half life? Or are you a decade of?

Game's difficulty dropped a lot when games started getting longer and started including a save function, which for me seemed like the SNES era. N64, and PS1 continued this and it stuck around until today.

Really, if a game doesn't have the mechanical depth to support its difficulty then it isn't going to be enjoyable.

99% of this board is either millennial or younger.

Maybe very early games based on the design philosophy of arcade machines where difficulty was just used as a way of making you repeat content over and over to keep feeding more coins in.

I'm glad we've moved beyond that. I find it hard to believe that there was any kind of real difficulty curve that would have stopped people from beating games like Half Life

they are different design philosophies for different people, what i can tell you is that

1) some games are really fucking hard to the point of being frustating and bullshit and no amount of "git gud" spouted by retard on Sup Forums will change that
2) but there are also people who whine a lot about stupid shit like this usualy it's the crowd that say stuff like "if you can skip cutscene you should be able to skip combat" completly missing the point of a game
3) moving away from harder than balls game killed a lot of cool genre like spaceship shooter and that makes me really sad

Hard games or fuck off. Games that take some skill, whether it be problem solving or quick reflexes, are fun because overcoming obstacles gives you satisfaction. What's the point of playing a game if it doesn't take any effort? Might as well go watch a pixar movie.

Stop watching AGVN and shit like that, they all suck at games.
Silver Surfer for example is one of the easiest shmups for the nes but no because some faggot played it up to be funny people think it's the hardest shit ever.

>Games from 1997-2002
>Impossible to beat

You are either senile or underage as fuck.

Was it rape?

They're at a venue and she's holding her nose. I dunno what's going on

>99% of this board is either millennial or younger.
How much younger are we talking?

>senile or underage

lmao, i wanted to post something along those lines too, but you worded it perfectly.

You'd only need to be sub 13 to fall within the next generation, I'm sure there's a lot of shota lurking this thread right now.

No, game where hard back then because some of us (Like me) were just child in those days, i re-played some of those games as adult and i didn''t find them so hard.

You do know millennials are anyone born from 1980 to 1999 right? A 37 year old is considered a millennial. But you just like using that meme.

The quality of life meme really made games easier and I am grateful for it.

Now that you actually know what items you can interact with you can solve the """puzzles""" easier. Instead of some shitty game like Doom where the rules on interactivity change all the time.

So, he's right then? I doubt more than 1% of Sup Forums is over 37.
Getting there, maybe

games are getting easier, duller and less deep every year, they used to bring magic to you and make you go through some bad times, now they just give you new stuff to collect while other franchise gets their bullshit game ready for the market

He was implying Sup Forums is all 20 year olds, but yes technically he's probably right.

That's what I'm sayin, people always go "muh millennial" when they have no idea what the term means.

>Games 15-20 years ago were almost impossible to ever beat, most people never saw the end of most of their games.

Absolute bullshit, you're just bad at them/were a kid.

ironic
I used to beat all my NES games (except master blaster and uncle festers quest) and even a few arcade games. And now i have a vast library on my pc, PS4 and Xbox 360 and have beaten perhaps 25% of the games.

The industry wasn't as profitable.

Somehow there's a sweet spot where there's pressure to perform but you can't just solve that pressure by throwing more money at it like we do today.

15-20 fucking years ago you goddamn retards, that's late Megadrive and Snes, that's psx, n64 and saturn, that's even fucking PS2, XBox and Gamecube.
OP is just full of shit, games were already casual at large, movie games did exist, console fps with regenerating health did exist.

There are people on Sup Forums whose first console was a PS3. Just sayin'

There are people on Sup Forums whose first console was an iphone.

>Games 15-20 years ago were almost impossible to ever beat,
You mean 25-30

Please don't say such things.

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>impossible to beat
they're not impossible to beat lol
games in the 80s/90s didn't hold your hand nor had pop ins every couple minutes interruping you and telling you what to do
it was trial and error so you actually had to git gud

there are still some exceptions today who don't do this either like souls games for example

That's what my post said, stop mass replying for attention faggot.