It doesn't surprise me. I pretty much assume any Western "AAA" garbage is a soulless money grab, more likely with some kind of offensive politics shoved in than not.
What I don't understand is why devs can't see the writing on the wall. Is it just industrial inertia? Japan is going to crush the West in this generation of gaming because it ironically has more in common culturally with Western audiences than clueless devs living in a bubble.
The only thing Americans are good for is making sports games.
I've been thinking about that a lot, too, but I don't say anything about it because some people here actually like western games. I don't think I've been excited for a non-indie western game in years.
Angel Evans
Just what we need: another """sandbox""" game. That's sure to bring everyone back to Western devs.
I wonder what the Day 1 DLC will be like???
Evan Bell
I agree. Western games are completely corrupted by politics and shitty media.Jap devs are the only ones who know how to appeal to the consumer for the most part.
Jordan Harris
Western devs lack innovation Japanese games get a bad rep of recycling look alike games, but they don't sell that well Western games have a lot of recycling ideas, gimmicks, gameplay styles, etc that don't challenge the norm and repeat the cycle until a new thing to recycle for years comes along There are some western devs out there that try to do different things, but they don't make enjoyable games in the process These devs care too much about making a game that they want with their messages and personal ideals rather than what the customers want and what they would be satisfied with playing time and time again But in the end none of this matters because the west makes bank on whatever mediocre shit they throw out there, the only thing to do is continuing supporting Japanese games so that they will more likely come overseas
Jackson Sullivan
Buy the Game shark cards my good goy.
Landon Turner
>Not wanting another RDR after 5 fucking years or whatever the last GOAT was.
Japs will never overtake shit again because of their completely fucked dev times for these games. People don't want to wait several years in between releases. Yes when persona and Yakuza do come out they will sell. But still no where near the latest FPS from the west.
Like Gran Turismo, how many fucking years have we been waiting now and will only get served with 100 cars when it finally drops? While Forza will be true 4K 60FPS and over 500.
Persona is a good jrpg but don't even try and compare numbers with the next Oblivion or Fallout.
Asher Johnson
> People don't want to wait several years in between releases Annual Releases! Yay! Yeah, nah, hang yourself.
Levi Ramirez
RDR didn't need a sequel and honestly it wasn't that good. All it really had going was a cool setting and atmosphere, the pacing was bad, Mexico was a chore, the open world was empty and the gunplay was totally brainless. I don't understand why people rate it so highly.
Also we are not shareholders no one gives a fuck about sales numbers
Caleb Parker
Sure, industrial inertia still makes money. My point was just that the western audience is growing tired of it. That doesn't mean GTAVI won't make crazy money, but it does mean that there will be more and more flops like Horizons New Meme.
Jeremiah Kelly
>western open world trash when BOTW did it far better K E K
Jose Reed
>the west makes worse games than the Japanese
Unrelated:
>the west makes games for PC, unlike the Japanese
Evan Martin
>>the west makes games for PC, unlike the Japanese
Once upon a time?
William Richardson
>GTA Online with horses
Oh boy I can't wait
Connor Walker
>People don't want to wait several years in between releases.
People wanted over a decade for Final Fantasy XV. You are factually wrong.
Cooper Reyes
>>the west makes games for PC
Do they though? Or do they make ports and then shitty indie devs make "games" for PC?
Joseph Gomez
This. We don't live in Lucas Arts times.
Josiah Fisher
>Japs will never overtake shit again
That's completely fine.
Of course Japanese games tend to not have mass appeal. This is a positive.
Tire of people whining about Japanese games not being as accepted as bland, western AAA games.
Easton Ramirez
Don't get me wrong, I love PC. But it's not what it used to be. Steam helps but it feels more and more that we get ports of games (granted, the ports typically play better than the console versions) more than new games.
Thomas Garcia
Ports or not ports, the average western game is likely to come to PC. The average Japanese game is unlikely to come to PC.
Asher King
>west vs east
holy shit who the fuck cares. This is what happens when autists with no lives run out of things to talk about
Easton Gray
>implying it's not a guise consoles (well playstation) vs PC
Japanese games coincidentally aren't released on PC. Western games coincidentally are released on PC.
Cooper Butler
WESTAKEK GOING NUCLEAR
Camden Johnson
>I don't care about it
Good thing your opinion is worthless then, thanks for sharing it though. I bet you do this to every thread you see, feel the need to walk in and throw your two cents in because apparently you think your shit opinion is so important everyone needs to hear it. We have boards for autists like you.
Owen Baker
Stop asking why Sup Forums doesn't like your favorite games then.
Julian Bell
nier isnt on pc?
Dylan Smith
Tumblr entered the Western Gaming Industry.
Look how many Western devs hire people with titles like community game manager even though their job is just to respond to facebook or twitter posts.
Angel Edwards
>I don't care about this subject but let me go into the thread to tell me why you're wrong to care
Autism in physical form.
Isaac Morales
Yeah nah, not one of the games I listed has an annual release. But getting one release via the consoles like span like Zelda or GT is complete horseshit.
Did people want to wait a decade but? There's no reason for a game to take so long other than mismanagement. Square has fallen a shitload since PS1.
How long are we going to wait for the 7 remake that we all grew up playing in high school? 30 years since release?
Matthew Hall
Nier is.
Yakuza Zero isn't. Project Diva isn't. Azure Revolution isn't. Persona 5 isn't. Nioh isn't. Gundam Breakers whatever isn't.
Captcha: hachiroku!?
Anthony Phillips
>The only thing Americans are good for is making sports games. To this day, the only two Western sports games I ever liked playing are the THPS games and Base Wars. Mario runs a goddamn monopoly on fun sports games, Super Monkey Ball's still got great sports minigames, and the Japs can make a pretty decent baseball game when they want too.
Adrian Jenkins
The renewed success of jap games is only a good thing for western consumers.
To begin with is the simple fact that some jap companies are starting to get their shit together after an awkward period over the late 00's and early 10's of releasing underwhelming sequels and cash ins.
It also means that western devs will have to put more thought into winning back players who have became "immune" to the 3rd person open world with multiplayer mmo elements, hopefully this means they'll create good games or at least focus more on creating a fun game rather than trying to do a "hollywood" and push agendas down consumers throats rather than good games.
Liam Allen
nier and persona come out and suddenly its a renaissance
Michael Cooper
Half of the Japanese games that have come out this year are too weeb for me. But I guess it's a good year for anime fans.
Levi Bennett
This. I'd still rather every western dev get purged out of a job honestly. So tired of muh queer feminist cover shooter and/or walking simulator. Even if western devs make good games (doubtful), I don't want to support their shitty politics regardless.
Charles Lopez
You should get it through your noggin that the "open world" meme isn't as clear-cut as the "everyone is sick of zombie games" notion; there's a big market that are tired of BAD sandboxes and still love and pursue GOOD sandboxes.
Very few Jap devs make great sandbox games; Zelda immediately comes to mind as one of the best they've produced to date. Likewise, Rockstar obviously has the market cornered and there are a *lot* of people looking forward to RDR2 based solely on the huge critical success that its two predecessors enjoyed.
>those are all bad games Contrarian retards, they are games that you don't enjoy.
Aiden Russell
>The renewed success of jap games is only a good thing for western consumers.
>It also means that western devs will have to put more thought into winning back players
pffffthahaha
No matter what sort of weeb "power of friendship" bullshit you're high on, you should be aware that the best selling games on your precious NIHONGO SUTEITIONU 4 are all western.
Logan Walker
What is the right amount of weeb for you? Cite examples.
Jeremiah Bell
t. Delusional Weeaboo
Kayden Moore
Japan has always been at the top of the pyramid though ever since Atari got fucked in the ass and Nintendo took over, this thread is retarded, Western developers never stood a chance
Robert Moore
My point was mostly that the West makes like 3 basic games, and all of them are rife with anti-consumer bullshit. The next RDR will not break this cycle, and I don't care how well it sells.
Kevin Lewis
Japanese games never left, you fucking shitstain. Don't ever make a shitty thread like this again.
Colton Price
Yes. Western games need to go back to their roots--the games that stood out. Arkane is smart for copying System Shock and Deus Ex for PREY and Dishonored. More companies should do the same and harken back to old games like that.
Oliver Howard
GTA 5 and Ubisoft started the jap games "renaissance". If anything, the opposite of your claim is true.
It's jap devs thinking GTA 5 completely outclassed their archaic designs that made them leap forward. Check interviews, it's their own opinions.
Brayden King
The only western devs worth a damn these days are indie, and even then you have to be very picky.
Kevin Perez
>jap renaissance >by locking their games exclusively to a console populated by the two-digit-IQ vape crowd >WITHOUT Sony forcing them to keep them exclusive
Anthony Jenkins
got em lmao
Brayden Scott
RE7 and Nioh are great games. Games like Persona and Nier don't appeal to me.
Aaron Scott
Japanese games were always better. They just can't write engines worth shit, which caused a temporary hiccup in the PS3 era.
Ayden Russell
Resident evil is weeb?
Parker Sanders
Post the last western game you bought. Just curious.
Chase Gomez
Nintendo can write engines though. In fact, they outclass literally every developer ever in history. That's not an exaggeration even slightly.
Jordan Martinez
Witcher 3 if that is what you can consider a western game.
Adrian Flores
Yooka-Laylee.
Noah Cox
LEAF
James Bennett
No, they are examples of non-anime Japanese games that I like. The other 2 are examples of Japanese games that I cant get into because they are too weeb for me. Can't believe I have to break down my post for you, or your just trolling.
Jordan Wood
>weeb It still frustrates me how the definition of this phrase has changed. It used to mean someone like Ken-sama, may be RIP in peace, but now it refers to anyone who likes anything Japanese.
Robert Campbell
DivOS
Samuel Reed
it's a polish game, therefore it is a slav game, therefore it isn't western because it fucking isn't in the western hemisphere
James Ross
> Can't believe I have to break down my post for you, or your just trolling. Because you're being vague and peoples' definition of the word "weeb" differs from one another.
John Flores
Some people just associate that term with weird anime shit in general.
Benjamin Johnson
People were saying this shit decades ago, it is no more true now than it was then
Kayden Wood
>Some people just associate that term with weird anime shit in general. Yeah I know. I just liked it better when it referred specifically to being wapanese/japanophile
Blake Ross
Why do you think there was a Wii U drought? They can write modern engines now, but it took them a generation.
Ayden Brooks
Japan didnt even need to try, they were going against this.
I'm interested in this, but I'll be kind of disappointed if it's just a prequel. Was hoping to explore some new characters.
Angel Perry
Persona 5 was the top game on PSN for April. Your image from 2014 isn't relevant.
Adrian Jones
kys weebs the third nuke is coming
Jonathan Gomez
>it's a Sup Forums thinks this board is in anyway reflective of reality episode
Western games, regardless of your opinion on their quality make billions of more money than japanese one even with the annual duds that come out. Nothing will change, nothing has changed, and there is no renaissance. Play what you want, and quit bitching.
Levi Miller
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Samuel Phillips
>it's a kike can only think about things in terms of profit episode
Ethan Watson
Japan is even doing strong female characters better than the west.
How can we stop them bros?
Kayden Reed
>it's a moron misses the point entirely, most likely on purpose episode
Jonathan Myers
>West is currently making mediocre games, but are still the source of the greatest games of all time. >Japan continues to make repetitive unpolished piles of shit, except the 18 minutes of unskippable exposition now runs on a different engine.
Joshua Sullivan
it's quite simple for the west to catch up make them fucking DECENT LOOKING jesus look at overwatch, a lots of hot women was in the cast and people love it, nobody want to play as some bald dyke and mumble to themselves >this is progressive >this is progressive
Daniel Miller
We liberated this board from the weebs and degenerates Now this site is the official support base for the president of the United States Donald J. Trump.
Sebastian Ross
Japan has never made an attractive character. All of them are either literal gooks or weird drawings with fucked up proportions that hit the right marks for super spergs.
Asher Rivera
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Adrian Ward
t. female No one cares about your objectively wrong opinion
Nolan Jones
I'm sure one day you'll be able to convince someone that a noseless, bug-eyed, dagger-chinned freak is actually attractive and not just something you get sexual release from because it looks the same as the people in the cartoons that kept you company as an autistic child. Unfortunately you'll never be able to cure your homesexuality and objectively shit taste in women.
Brayden Brooks
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Parker Myers
>We liberated this board from the weebs and degenerates And you did a pretty shit job with it. Kind of like modern western games.
Ayden Richardson
Assassin's Creed is better than 90% of any franchise in Japan.
Angel Sanchez
>hate jrpgs >find character action games like bayonetta to be repetitive What does japan have to offer me outside of the occasional nintendo title?
Elijah Rogers
Waifus
Thomas Morales
Western devs didn't drop the ball, it's just that Japanese devs were poorly equipped to handle the transition to HD. Now that most have gotten their shit together, we'll hopefully see more parity between Japan and the West.
Isaac Evans
Psychological horror?
Well, they used to.
Angel Gutierrez
That's why I'm telling people here that they actually don't want their precious Japanese games to actually be popular, in that sense.
Monkey paw.
Logan Gutierrez
AFTER THE END OF WORLD WAR 2
THE WORLD WAS DIVIDED INTO TWO HALVES
EAST AND WEST
THIS MARKED THE BEGINNING OF AN ERA KNOWN AS THE COLD WAR
Aaron Phillips
Japan has been the only country producing games of worth since the NES saved the entire industry.
Mason Harris
Creative Assembly is the only pc company I can think of.
