So...what did he do wrong again?

So...what did he do wrong again?

Not even kidding, he was compleely in his rights. He was hired to do a job and he did it damn well, ends justify the means.

Physically abusing students and molesting others isn't right.

>ends justify the means.
Oh, you're one of those type of fags.

He did one thing right.

>ends justify the means
>molesting students means they perform better

If you don't want to get raped just tell your stupid stuckup bitch friend to take one for the team, how fucking hard is that?

The problem with ends/means and any form of argument like this is that it removes all context in favor of black and white.

He was absolutely wrong, but that's just my perspective.

Of all the guys he was the only one who could back up some of his boasts about entitlement (When he schools the volleyball team).

Most of the others were just "I'm old and I have a senior position that makes me untouchable"

>ends justify the means
t. Lelouch

Lelouch did literally nothing wrong.

He got students he didn't like expelled

He pissed off the PTA. You never fuck with the PTA.

i wish you were smarter and more interesting, op, please be more inventive with your shitposting

He was going to get the player character explelled

I know. >tfw we're getting a season 3

It obviously fucking made him able to do his job right, kids wouldn't be line otherwise

Rape of a student was within his rights?
You can argue for the abuse of the volleyball team, they did get results and were a multi-year district winners.

Alongside being so jealous he over-trained Ryuji causing him to snap his fucking leg. Then he spread rumors to piss off Ryuji, causing the attack which let him end the track team and make Ryuji an outcast.

He was just an incredibly petty faggot living on past glory.

>purposefully leaked that the player character had a criminal record

If he didn't want to get brainwashed, he shouldn't have crossed me.

Welcome to japan, where you're conditioned from birth to believe people who outrank you are automatically your betters as people too.

they are literal Law to our Chaos

I thought he proved Ryuji and then broke his leg in the resulting fight.

White girls deserve rape
Based Japan

Now you're thinking like a Japanese person. Who cares if our kids are damaged? At least they're performing well.

I thought Kamoshida was personally responsible for breaking Ryuji's leg when Ryuji couldn't take it anymore and Kamoshida broke it in "self-defense"

He was trying to consensually (through blackmail) get with the white bitch
He ended up raping a pure Japanese girl.

I might've gotten it mixed up. I went through the game pretty quick after it released.

Still, sabotaging other teams and intentionally fucking over students isn't right.

this. he goaded Ryuji knowing he's a hothead into striking at him, so he could then justify 'self defense' and break Ryuji's leg without being punished.

He tries the same thing at the expulsion scene and Ryuji only stopped because you told him to.

A better question might be what didn't he do wrong? Olympic athlete to abusive toddler diddler.

We only ever get Ryuji's account.
There's two sides to every story.

What baffles me is what fucking useless, self-defeating retards the rest of the track team are. Holy fuck talk about working against your own self-interest.

Actually Kamoshida fesses up to the whole thing during the expulsion scene, so you're full of shit.

Japanese are very weak-willed and subservient. Just look at the Prison of Regression.

>He was absolutely wrong
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

>he could then justify 'self defense' and break Ryuji's leg without being punished.

The entire scenario is so fucked up when you realize that Kamoshida ended Ryuji's future as a promising track star just so he could continue being top dog.

Obi-Wan is a Sith. From a certain point of view.

From my perspective The Phantom Thieves are evil!

He breaked Ryuji's leg, sexually harrassed female students, physically abused volleyball team. Literally did nothing wrong.

>Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
>An absolute statement, said by a Jedi

Lucas is a hack.

But your murders aren't? Eat shit Akechi

desu I'd tap Shiho too

Maul was alive?

>Abusing and intimidating students
>Have Mishima leak Joker's record
>Driven Shiho to suicide
Yeah-no. The bastard gets no sympathy. He's lucky Ann didn't kill his shadow.

yeah and we've seen his side in other situations. during the expulsion scene he's trying to piss Ryuji off so ryuji tries something so he can beat him up again, the only reason Ryuji didn't is because Joker grabs Ryuji's hand and holds it back.

Ryuji in his own confdiant's still feel s it's 'his' fault for letting himself be baited by Kamoshida, but the guy clearly knows he's in the advantageous position and taunting Ryuji to try something.

>only villain that literally admits to all his crimes
>outside his dungeon, before you brainwash him
>in front of witnesses
>gloats that you can't do anything to touch him


>Sup Forums chooses this villain to say he did nothing wrong

Literally nothing wrong with killing a few people if it means dad will give you attention.

And then you kill dad.

>When he schools the volleyball team
yeah because a team of adults, the main one of which is an Olympic Gold medalist, beating a team of teenagers is such a great measure of how good he is at what he does.

seriously that's like a former heavyweight champion boxer fighting a 90 pound cancer patient and claiming that justifies their claims that they are a great boxer.

Apparently he got revived or given robot legs or some dumb shit.

Weeb trash

I was about to say Madarame fessed up too but he never admitted to practically killing Yusuke's mother outside of the metaverse.

Yeah. Turns out he had a brother, got trained by evil witches on Dathomir, gave Maul some robot legs, they teamed up and killed Obi-Wan's Mandalorian waifu, then got fucked up by Palpatine and his brother died. He went crazy, had some adventures with the Rebels cast, tracked down Obi-Wan, and got merked in three seconds.

And he was a good friend.

Shiho has nice lips.

Rest in peace.

Traumatized teenagers, sexually abused teenagers, physically abused teenagers, treated human beings like his playthings.

It's not even like it's pro sports with tons of money on the line, this is fucking high school volleyball

Gr8 b8 made me reply

Even though Ryuji could be retarded sometimes this is why I couldn't hate him.

He came from a shit home, had found a place (track) but got it taken away by a jealous prick and was basically a friendless loser when you met him. It wasn't surprising when he'd act excited or blurt shit out about the phantom thieves. He basically found a new place to belong and made friends again.

The problem with
>but that's just my perspective
is that nine times out of ten it's just a tactic to avoid criticism. Yeah, fine, I'll agree that everyone's opinion is ultimately just that -- their opinion. But most people are already aware of that on some level. The purpose of discussion and debate is to arrive at either some sort of consensus or to generate a new idea/proposition. "Durr everything's just opinions" basically implies that we should just never talk about anything, ever.

yes. he had a big junk pile set of spider legs, then got some Grievous style legs, then regular looking robot legs. he also had a brother named Savage Opress.

Clone Wars got kinda weird.

She's not dead.
Dead inside, maybe.

>ends justify the means

They don't thought, so your point is moot

The one time the gang meets Kaneshiro he has drugs all over the place and blackmails them for money.

i mean hell Shido and Fuitaba's uncle try to pull the 'I fell over trying to beat you up, so clearly 'you' attacked me' crap.

People are dishonorable fucks and always chosoe the most underhanded trick they can to keep power/get power

>so your point is moot
who?

>tfw finish it and now I'm empty and friendless again
A-at least my qt gf Makoto is living with me now.

They never even said or proved Komashida molested anyone. They just lightly implied it.

It is in my belief that he never molested anyone. Just enjoyed spending time with and communicating with them after school

>basically implies that we should just never talk about anything, ever.

List 17 things wrong with that that aren't Jackie Chan.

If what you're saying is true, then spending time with Kamoshida and communicating with him was so fucking unbearable a girl tried to kill herself. What kind of fucking loser must he be?

He violently communicated his dick into some girl's insides.

Damn...

>who?
Its not a person, its a something that is arguable or open to debate.

She survived the fall

I don't even think killing his dad was part of his plan

I mean was he really going to assassinate the prime minister? Surely that wouldn't work, and shadow Shido would kick his fucking ass

This statement made my neurons fire

He did plenty of things wrong, but he ultimately only got where he did because of society. I don't know if it's just because I'm an "oldfag" but I couldn't stand how juvenile P5's morality was. Yeah, yeah, I know they awkwardly cram in a bunch of exposition at the end about how society really was the problem all along, but that shit needed to be hinted at/integrated into the plot WAY sooner and much more than it was.

Mishima outright says the school and the parents 'knew' he did this shit. they 'let' him do it because he brought the volleyball prestige. The students 'let' him because they were either pussies like Mishima who don't rock the boat, or people desperately enduring it hoping for recommendations to further their own personal gains.

and once Kamoshido shut down Ryuji he'd have scared the few people barely willing to rebel.

He was going to blackmail him with the knowledge of all his illegal acts + the fact that he was his bastard son.

When really he didn't need to fucking kill anyone, he could have blackmailed him with just the knowledge of his birth. All he did was make himself just as much of a criminal as Shido.

>he then uses that to look even better by running over too him to see if hes okay

god what a champ

To be fair, he says DEALS in absolutes. As in, gives you only two choices with no compromise. Still a stupid line though.

I wonder how those fucking parents feel at that point, that they got their children beaten half to death and molested, all for "accolades" and recommendations that never even came.

He said he wanted to blackmail Shido and bring him through a living hell.
Who knows what the fuck he was thinking?

Theoretically he should be able to make Shido's Shadow go psychotic, causing a reaction to his real body.

Considering Shido recovers from her coma Kamoshida was completely fucked, the bigger question is why is the Principal such a worthless piece of shit

Allowing it to happen is one thing, but actually believing it won't come back to bite you in the ass is pure mental retardation, glad he got killed

>I wonder how those fucking parents feel at that point
Probably they said "is for his/her future and will help to get in college", Japan is a fucked society.

Anyone of you would have done the exact same thing in Kamoshidas shoes.

>He was going to blackmail him
considering what a power hungry dick Shido was and how much influence he had I'm pretty sure he would have no qualms with having Akechi killed and all evidence covered up. Any evidence he had about what Shido had done in the Metaverse wouldn't exactly be anything anyone could prove.

Yeah, but now it's not even doing THAT for them. Their lies are thrown back in their face, all the suffering they put their child through just turned fruitless. How the fuck does someone justify that?

>shido
*shiho

I think if Ryuji just 'learned' after getting caught by Makoto to shut his mouth more everyone would have been fine with him.

Junpei does stupid shit too but he clearly had a growth arc so we take his 'dumb' parts as part of what made him good later. Ryuji gets Yosuke's buttmonkey curse and the 'you can't actually change as a character' curse of the party members are also social links thing.

so he just keeps saying stupid shit and getting jobbed for 'laughs'

also he totally should fucking die if you didn't max him by Shido's palace

That pic is so good.
Thank you.

Honestly, Ryuji is bro tier.

I'm honestly surprised some of the students/parents didn't openly declare their hatred of the phantom thieves and/or kamoshida after what happened.

Be a fucking loser? Yeah probably. But shit man at least I wouldn't be a rapist. If I was as beloved as him I'd have just scored myself an actual girlfriend.

>I would have abused students and tried to get it on with a minor
>would have sexually harassed students just because I'm able to
No I would not have.
I could do those things already, the thing is, I've already done as much of that stuff as I want to, and i want to do it not-at-all.

I said he's crazy. His plan is COMPLEX as fuck.
He killed a lot of people for Shido's sake instead of just putting a few bullets in Shadow Shido's head when he was a nobody.

The only thing I would have done if I was Kamoshida is fuck Shiho.

>the bigger question is why is the Principal such a worthless piece of shit
because promises of power and threats of death. "You can have the gold or the Lead" seems to be Shido's MO.

I'm only at the start of Makoto's arc, without too many big spoilers could you explain how the fuck some random principal is even in Shido's pocket to begin with? Was Joker's going there part of some elaborate revenge scheme or something?

I feel the same but the thing is this game is for weebs

Dumb losers who consume garbage anime

That's why the story is so simple and your character such a badass that every hot chick needs to bang

It fulfills that fantasy that the target audience never had in their own time in high school

Felt bad for them while I played and so did my friends

Ryuji's a character that is stupid and it's easy to make fun of him, but I feel like I'd be just as excited if suddenly I had magical powers and could fight monsters every single day and change the hearts of people.

I think it's bad he blurts shit out only because he only ever does it when the plot needs someone to fuck up. I know I'd blurt that shit out in casual conversation with my super-powered friends.

the school would just cover it up and pressure Shiho to drop it. she was too broken to fight it, and Japanese society would shame Shiho for questioning the status quo more than Kamoshida for potentially doing it.

let's also not forget the corrupt as shit Japanese cops would ALSO pressure Shiho to shut up and drop it, because getting her to shut up is less work/drama on their end.

If you already know about Shido at this point you're spoiled enough already.

Shujin is still a decent school and the principal can give you a recomendation if you side with him.

If I remembering right, the reason is kind of a spoiler to begin with, no matter how much you obscure it.

If you just want a vague answer, I guess you can just say it's not a direct thing, but trickles down.