>attack misses
>even though you can see your weapon visually penetrate the enemy (3d weapon model going through the enemy model)
>the game gives no indication at all that you miss with the only indicator is if the health bar goes down
>attack animation stays the same even when youre attacking with no stamina
why do people like this game?
>TES
>Combat
It was your fault for expecting anything.
Woooooow you mean I have to use my imagination, that's for fucking babies
There's blood coming out and a sound if you hit. There's an indicator.
Why would the animation change if you're attacking without stamina?
It's an old game that tried to fuse 3d exploration gameplay with D&D dice rolling mechanics.
Play more recent games if you're discontent with dated gameplay.
>actually tells you that weapon is not effective
>multiple striking animations
morrowind with a mistake
Play with a mage/alchemist. Playing Morrowind with a warrior is a waste of time unless you are autistic.
This. Morrowind is ONLY good if you play a dedicated wizard.
I also suggest finding the mod that makes it so the wait command refills your mana bar
>i suggest getting a mod to let you cheat easier
morrowind players everyone, fucking awful
Why does waiting in a bed for 1 hour make you have full mana but waiting in a safe, secluded place doesn't? Doesn't make any sense
>RPG game have RPG gameplay
Wow, why did they do this?
>dumb morrowind shill thread
>le miss attack all teh tiem xD
Sage
>tfw there will never be a game as good as Morrowind
shut up, nostalgia-bias-cuck
>Make a small mod
>Magicka regens at a rate based on your total Intelligence and Willpower
>Set social and armour skills to govern attributes normally reserved for weapons
>Set all starting weapon skills to 100
There, just fixed 99% of newfag gripes. Takes 5 minutes to do, makes mages a lot more playable, makes a social character entirely possible and not shit in combat and makes you always hit with your chosen weapons.
Weapon skill increases Hit% only. Damage is still dependent on strength and the weapon itself.
VTMB fixes these "flaws" but the combat sucks in comparison to morrowind. Explain this.
I can't tell if this is some advanced irony, a meme I missed, or if there are people on Sup Forums that can't tell daggerfall and morrowind apart
nice false flag, faggot
Feels bad man. These damn kids will never experience the greatest game ever made in its full glory. Just their dumbed down """""action""""" RPGs.
i'm saying that those features are great and that morrowind is a mistake for not having them
game literally went backwards
>I'm retarded: the post
He's pointing out that Daggerfall had better animations and a message that you missed, whereas Morrowind has neither.
but morrowind went forwards by making ghosts the only enemies that are immune to certain materials
Morrowind also has multiple striking animations...
Did you even play the game?
Morrowind does have multiple swing animations, but most people never see them because you can't use them with the "always use best attack" option turned on.
If anything the flaw there was actually giving weapons different attack values for chopping/slashing/stabbing attacks, even though there aren't separate physical resistances or varying hitboxes for different types of attack, so there's no reason to ever use any attack except the one that does the most damage.
Morrowind used sound effects to tell you whether a weapon was effective or not.
Morrowind also has slash, thrust, and sideways attack animations as well. You probably set the damn thing to auto attack using only whatever kind of attack of those three does the most damage from your weapon (it's in the options menu.)
Not true at all. Virtually all daedra are immune to normal weapons. Clannfears and Winged Twilights are the only ones that aren't.
REMINDER THAT
>Every TES game is equally shit
>people are hardwired to defend their favorite, usually first TES and won't listen otherwise
>for everything a TES does good it does 2 things badly
>using mods as a reason for why a game is so great isn't a valid reason, you aren't ppaying TES at that point you're playing Beastiality Loli Futa Rape Simulator
>don't bring up lore in an argument about the quality of a TES game, it's always a sidetrack people use when they lack a good reason to call something shit even thoigh most TES lore remains unchanged and out of the games entirely
They actually planned on having something like that, it was another limitation of the engine stopping them from doing it. They just kept the different attacks types in because "fuck we already made them, so why not?"
How are the first two Elder Scroll games as dungeon crawlers?
Bait threads are shit.
Jokes on you, ESO isn't my first Elder Scrolls game yet it's undoubtedly the best.
>the game gives no indication at all that you miss with the only indicator is if the health bar goes down
wrong
>why do people like this game?
because most people understand what a RPG really is unlike most gen-Z shitters like you
>you're playing beastiality loli futa rape simulator
But morrowind doesn't even have sex mods, or if it does it's nothing that impressive. The sex mod scene didn't take off until oblivion.
Morrowind did have multiple animations which is what got me confused. Glad to see you never played the game and are only shitting up the thread
Jokes on you, I also love ESO but I can give yoy reasons why its just as shit as other TES games
>UI breaks constantly
>NPCs commonly spawn under or inside of objects or simply don't spawn at all
>Balance changes are constantly either making classes worthless, like DK in morrowind, or broken and overpowered, like magsorc in morrowind
>crafting system requires 3 months of devotion at a minimum if you want to craft the best quality items for one of the equipment craft trees
>dungeons are only either piss easy (Fungal grotto) or fucking stupid hard (vTempest Island)
>every alliance questline is shit, DC is nothing but necromancers and daedra, EP is nothing but a bunch of "ancient evils" to make you feel like a hero, and AD is pretty good except for the fact that the three shittiest areas are also the longest areas and all three of them are fucking jungles
The point is that saying a game is good after pumping 17 gigabytes of combat overhauls, graphic overhauls and trainwiz mods doesn't make the actual game any better
I alwaysike the first one because it has a real creepy atmosphere to it.
Daggerfalls dungeons are just too big and complex for their own good in my opinion
>whatever kind of attack of those three does the most damage from your weapon
Why even have different attacks when one type is clearly superior to everything else? In Daggerfall different attacks allowed you to sacrifice damage for more accuracy and vice versa. In morrowid you just turn on autoattack, because its the most convinient choice.
I played Morrowind last and it's my favorite. Every thread with you fucks. People like things you don't like, can't you fucking deal with it?
>I played Morrowind last and it's my favorite.
Well you clearly still haven't gone past the honeymoon phase
oh look it's this thread again, it never gets old!
Seriously, all morrowinds problems can be attributed to the fact it was made by 5-6 guys when Bethesda was on the spinning ride to bancrupsy. But what the fuck happened to Oblivion?
>usually their first
If anything you are validating his points. He didn't even any specific game. Either you're baiting really hard or you are actually retarded
...
I have. I'd last played it over a year ago and I just started another playthrough.
I also don't use mods and just really enjoy the game.
Oh, I'm validating his post, how terrible. His entire "argument" is:
>people defend things they like omfg they're retarded because those things are actually bad because I said so
You're the retard. Go drool elsewhere.
>play RPG
>why are there RPG mechanics?????
Would've been okay b8 were it not for the first point. You're mostly right tho (besides the first point but hey it's Sup Forums)
No. His point was that people will circlejerk their favorite TES games saying they're the best when none of them are particularly great. The way you get so defensive about it and the fact that you played morrowind a year ago really point to you being underaged too.
Name one TES game that is better than another as objectively as possible. Anything you bring up about it, you can bring up 2 things another game did better and 3 things that game did worse.
>why are my character skills relevant to game mechanics
I said I "last" played it "over" a year ago. Learn to read.
It's a game I like. Is it flawed? Yes, quite. I like it very much nonetheless. I enjoy playing it quite a bit more than the other TES games. What the fuck is agitating your autism, exactly?
>a guy makes valid points on the internet
>but they contradict with my opinions
>let's instantly get defensive and attack some random fucker online and call him autistic because my feelings are hurt
what points?
Oh fuck, you know, you're right. I shouldn't be trying to argue with random morons on Sup Forums of all places. I'll actually go play something instead.
>no TES game is particularly better than any other
>mods don't make a game better, they're just masking it's flaws
>any given TES games do more things badly than they do well
>people never acknowledge the flaws of their favorite TES games
>people will get defensive and circlejerk about their favorite TES if their views are questioned
>my feelings aren't hurt I'm just angry
That's daggerfall you fucking dweeb. It's literally like the third enemy in the whole game.
hes on about the fact there is miss strike animations
which are in morrowind anyways, he was a moron
>a guy makes valid points
Burden of proof is on you.
>pick up long blade skill
>use two handed axe
WOOOOOOOOW! I AM PRESSING BUTTONS THIS IS BROKEN.
But user, two handed axe is quite long and has a blade.
>people defend things they enjoy
wow what a fucking surprise nice deduction there
The blade itself isn't long. Checkmate atheists.
>Player->SetSpeed 250
>no indication of miss
This is why you're full of shit. I mean, this is all bait anyway
There is a sound of hits and misses. Fag.
>no TES game is particularly better than any other
I disagree. There, refuted your point, see? Fucking BTFO.
>mods don't make a game better, they're just masking it's flaws
I totally agree.
>people never acknowledge the flaws of their favorite TES games
Patently false.
The last line is so stupid I just won't bother. If you think you've actually made any points, you're probably actually thick.
Miss miss meme threads are typically just a way to get active Morrowind threads going, but, as you can see, it tends to invite retards along.
>boots of blinding speed
>waterwalking/levitate
Same reason I feel refreshed after sleeping all night when I feel like shit if I just sit instead
The game is unplayable until you get the boots of blinding speed and then you have to constantly repair them after every fight until they get destroyed so quickly that you just don't bother anymore and set your speed to 250 on your own to avoid dying of boredom.
Morrowind's fatigue and running speed was a mistake.
Because the rest of it is really good.
How about, I dunno, you change boots where the fight begins. It's not like you can use hotkeys to bind everything in your inventory.
Oh wait. You can.
Or you can just level your athletics.
Fuck you kid
Probably because running around with a permanent black veil on my screen is just as retarded/annoying
>"Tired or running around at the speed of a snail? Run around for hours and you'll run faster!"
Are you serious?
I used to trigger the autorun at noon and go to school while letting the computer run just so I could go at decent speeds. I used to think it was retarded then and I still do think it's retarded now.
You can pay trainers to level up your skills, you know.
on other words: skyrim is dull husk of previous TES games
By the time you'd have enough money to train your skills to go at a decent speed you would already have played the game for dozens of hours at a retarded slow pace unless you min/max for that precise goal and/or exploit.
>even though you can see your weapon visually penetrate the enemy (3d weapon model going through the enemy model)
Proof please
>enjoy 80's SSI AD&D RPGs
>Think they're better than morrowind by a mile
>Games like dungeon hack, EoTB, dungeon master etc. did first person RPG combat significantly better whilst implementing actual literal D&D rulesets
>any complaints about Morrowind and it's shitty melee combat system makes me an underage retard
Morrowind's melee combat system isn't shit because anyone complaining about it is underage but because it was figured out significantly better 15 fucking years before morrowind came out.
the exact same applies to baulder's gate / fallouts etc. horrible attempt to use real time combat which SSI knew couldn't work as early as games like shattered lands.
>dungeon hack, EoTB, dungeon master etc. did first person RPG combat significantly better
>>the game gives no indication at all that you miss with the only indicator is if the health bar goes down
Except you have a sound indicator.
And a visual one, since you won't see blood or stagger.
>watch EotB gameplay
>MISS MISS MISS MISS
Wow, truly a masterpiece in game design
>comparing blobbers to TES
Are you retarded or just baiting?
>Fallout
>realtime
>Baldur"s Gate
>not a literally AD&D rules
How retarded are you?
>underage dipshits get called out for being underage dipshits
>can't produce counterarguments
what a surprise.
>which SSI knew couldn't work as early as games like shattered lands
What are you talking about? Shattered lands was turn based.
Burden of proof is on you, faggot.
>Play game with dice rolls
>roll a miss
WOW Y DO PEEPS LIEK THIS SHIT GAEM I CANT HIT SHET!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(((((
Kek, keep crying kiddo.
>I see literally nothing wrong with that crafting, though I wouldn't mind if they lower that to one month
>tile based games with party of several characters
So why are you camparing them to morrowind again?
Go back to Skyrim you asinine fuck.
>a guy makes valid points
But he didn't though.
>it visually happenned so it has to happen in effect REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
realismfags cannot into vidya as usual
>people are hardwired to defend their favorite
Well no shit sherlock. Imagine that, people defending one of their favourite games.
Sleep vs Getting sleeping
This makes no sense, warriors quickly becomes speedrunners in this game
I know, even the fucking block is automatic
USING A FUCKING SHIELD IS AUTOMATIC YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER BLOCK
then go back to skyrim so you can just hold a mouse button to not take damage lol
Nostalgia value.
>le go back to Skyrim
Manual blocking is literally a fucking requirement for good combat you fucking retard.
and not being a retard is a basic requirement to not get btfo by a fucking bethesda game, no wonder morrowind is so hated in revvit, the mechanics themselves are a casual filter
I don't give a fuck if you get BTFO in the game or not, manual blocking is FUCKING CRAZY NEW IDEA NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE I know but maybe it's time to let the player rely on their skill and inputs rather than a fucking dice roll for every basic combat action.
>"I don't know what a true RPG is"