>Introduces Pliskin as a character early on in the game >Explores his character indepth, with his own codec channel and everything >Suddenly disappears from the game and nobody talks about him again
Why do people give MGS2 so much praise when this glaring issue was present? Did Kojima just give up on his character and refuse to acknowledge him again?
Only the most hardcore, dedicated fans figured it out
Levi Rodriguez
I also never understood why they dropped pliskin. What happened to him? And where did Snake suddenly come from?
Robert Parker
Please, do tell
Nolan Young
Tasty meme OP.
Jacob Lopez
PLISKIN IS SNAKE!!
Gavin Baker
If Pliskin is snake then who did 9/11? Bluebilled cuck 0-1 Me
Levi Flores
>Posting this shitty fan theory yet again Why do you guys keep persisting on posting this trash? Is it because they're both played by David Hayter? Well shit I guess that makes Snake a time traveler who went to the 60s under the name Naked Snake to become Big Boss right?
Fucking ridiculous
Hudson Long
Snake died in the tanker 2 years ago. Pliskin decided to honour this falled legend and became his phantom for the events of the plant chapter and mgs4.
Isaiah Thompson
You fucking spoiled everything, that would be a good thread
Brayden Rogers
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Asher Peterson
>implying
Benjamin Ortiz
What is it that makes the MGS games so different from other games?
Austin Richardson
brand recognition
David Allen
The fact that's able to have both extremely serious,powerful moments while also having silly 4th wall breaking moments and is able to make both work
It's hinted at in the PSP motion comic that Pliskin recovered the bodies of Seal Team after Fat Man's bombs were frozen. He may or may not have been killed in the fight with the black chick. It's also hinted at that he knew he was dealing with something over his pay grade and bailed. very much like Kojima he left Pliskin half finished..
Parker White
I've only played TPP, been meaning to get round to the others at some point but is this for real? Is there actually a character named Pliskin? I thought the whole Snake thing was a pretty on the nose rip-off of John Carpenter.
Mason Rivera
Yes, and he is named Pliskin to pay homage to Carpenter. Kojima is fond of his movies.
Colton Bailey
I ask because I googled it after I finished TPP and there seemed to be little indication of that, he even said something to the effect of Snake having nothing to do with Snake Plissken.
Noah Collins
Now that the thread is ruined, I've been wondering. Was I ever supposed to think pliqsuine wasn't snake?
Wyatt Stewart
Well it's a fact that there is a character in MGS2 Plant part who is named Pliskin. He also looks exactly like Solid Snake.
It actually IS Snake who survived the tanker incident
Christopher Johnson
Holy shit he says "I am S... Pliskin" (or something like that) when introduces himself to Raiden.
Caleb Howard
Snake died at the beginning of the game idiot.
Dominic Martin
I always think you just didn't suppose to know. Beginning of the game they ask you if you played the first game if you say no you directly start from Plant and have no idea how snake is seen
Caleb Phillips
What version of the game has it? I played Substance and it didn't ask me. I just pressed Tanker - Plant and then... The Hudson River. two years ago.
Aaron Perry
I pressed that I never played and it also gave me The Hudson River, Two Years Ago
Grayson Garcia
Then I guess you should play MGS1 to get Shadow Moses, 4 years ago.
Elijah Morris
It was probably made more clever in japanese version, david hayter's voice makes it too obvious
Chase Lopez
Quick question Did the Patriots know Snake survived the Tanker incident, or we're they rused?
Parker Long
...
Connor Cruz
kek
Joshua Ross
Bullshit, prove it
Benjamin Morales
They were an early example of cinematic games but also had good gameplay.
Eli Ward
lol
William Martin
>this entire thread
Caleb Powell
Snake died, dumbass
Justin Bell
You fucking tinfoil hat mgs dick suckers are the worst. Just admit Kojima is a hack and forgot about the character. I wouldn't be surprised if this game was actually written by Hideo instead.
Blake Sanders
Careful what you say user. The same people who think Pliskin is Snake usually also think that Hideo and Kojima are actually the same person
Noah Howard
>Hideo and Kojima are actually the same person How. It's literally impossible
Lucas Brown
What was even the point of that? >he's not solid snake >lol, yes he is!
Leo Howard
No idea man
Honestly I think they just say it for attention
Aiden Cook
(You) really pissed me off with this one.
Camden Sullivan
ok
Tyler Cooper
But Snake died on that tanker 2 years ago faggot
William Nguyen
snake died on that tanker though??
Juan Brown
Yes he did.
Jaxson Clark
>durr ignorant gamer thread le xDD Kill yourselves.
Gavin Rodriguez
>enemies in MGS2 had actually used tactics and had realistic animations >everything was abandoned in later games
Adam Allen
call me pliskin
Matthew Lee
>believing otacon propaganda
Holy shit get over his death already you fucking weeaboo
Ryder Sanders
What about in MGS3?
Jaxson Collins
It had memes.
Bentley Lee
That was MGS2
Asher Martin
nah MGS3 memes was better and it had more of them. >slamming a big silver cock into a well oiled asshole and all that.
Caleb Scott
That was in the first game.
Angel Gomez
Still revolver Ocelot >t. Revolver Ocelot
Jordan Taylor
No I mean MGS2 was literally about memes
Juan Hughes
You guy's don't get it, Pliskin was all in Raiden's head, it's his VR training getting into his head and creating an exterior form, of course he looks like Solid Snake because Raiden admires him.
The reason why the colonel says he isn't apart of the simulation isn't because he wasn't supposed to be on the big shell, but because he ISN'T there.
Colton Cook
This is bait right...? Right
Christian Morales
So who the fuck is Old Snake?
Snake's grandpa?
Austin King
That's actually Solidus Snake, reconstructed with nanomachines after MGS2.
Ethan Green
Guys... What if Raiden and Raikov are the same person?
I mean, come on. Their face and hair and name look so similar!
Asher Morgan
>pays homage But kojima denies that.
Jason Thompson
Old Snake is Old Snake. It's not complicated. Old Snake is Old Snake, Solid Snake is Solid Snake, Liquid Snake is Liquid Snake, Naked Snake is Venom Snake, Solidus Snake is Solidus Snake.
Christian Young
>Did Kojima just give up on his character and refuse to acknowledge him again?
It was Solid Snake in disguise.
Liam Sanders
>hideo is the one running the show now I guess sony got played like a controller.
Benjamin Murphy
I've actually had someone who's never played the games say it's too confusing because there's too many Snakes.
Jaxson Hernandez
Nah Pliskin just has a speech impediment don't worry about that
Easton Bell
Wow what retarded Nintendo dev came up with and forced in this stupid headcanon
John Jackson
>implying Smash Bros is canon >implying Brawl is canon
Bentley Richardson
welcome to MSG2 threads on Sup Forums.
Where morons actually listen to an AI who: lies and manipulates information/people and says shit like: youtube.com/watch?v=ul8j9I90ueM
Caleb Morales
I think you were supposed to have some doubts. At least you would if you played the japanese version since Solid and Solidus share the same actor.
Mason Jackson
That's decoy octopus. Real solid snaked died during the prison torture by ocelot. During waking up scene in cell, decoy took over him like medic did in V. Player is rused int thinking they're controlling snake. Liquid died from fox die but not decoy, sniper wolf, ocelot, raven, psychomantis.
This is decoy showing his age with the excuse of genes breaking down.
John Bailey
>brawl snake is just big boss in sneaking suit I hate kojimas big boner for big boss.
Josiah Foster
It's implicitly explained at the end of 4 and V. Pliskin had his head tampered with to have him believe he was Snake, just like Liquid/Ocelot and BigBoss/Venom
Chase Hill
Snake isn't relatable because he's a clone according to Kojima.
Hunter Adams
Same goes to Johnny. They're already part of the parasite prototype program. They don't age.