So after I beat Persona 5, I had a hankering for some REAL SMT gameplay, since Sup Forums is always up it's own ass about it.
I have to say, though- Strange Journey's been pretty enjoyable so far.
Just left the Costco from hell (Carina) and started poking around the junkyard (Delphinus).
Anything I should watch out for? Any hot demons I should look out for or fuse?
General Advice?
(SMT General too, I guess.)
Bump with my team after stuffing and mounting Horkos on the walls of the Red Sprite.
>Any hot demons I should look out for or fuse?
I think that there's a giant naked zebra lady, but idk if she's in this game
Thinking of playing some SMT too. Is there a guide to SMT games? Which one should I play?
I'm probably like 20 hours way from Zebratits, if I had to guess.
Maybe less.
Can you make Doppelganger thu fusion? He can reflect gun/phys and it's dope
Different user here, I've picked up Soul Hackers recently and I keep getting my ass kicked in the Akane Mall Warehouse and wanted to know what demons are good healers in the level 35-45 range.
There is, though I don't have the guide for it on hand. The stories are self-contained for the most part; most people recommend starting with IV or IV:A on the 3ds.
>neutral
Good job getting Doppelganger at least, he's good the entire game
You should be pretty close to getting mitamas. 6 Points of STR do make a difference.
Horkos+Deathbound+mitamas is pretty alright.
I think Pisaca gives a source for Grand Tack, 2nd best gun skill in the game.
Trust this guy, he's your friend.
Digital Devil Saga if you want a traditional JRPG. Nocturne or SJ if you want what makes SMT unique. A lot of people woudl recommend Nocturne over SJ for your first game because SJ is considered more difficult, but I think SJ is more grounded and a better place to start, the only really tough part is the teleporter mazes, which are more annoying than they are difficult.
You could also go for SMT IV like this user said bu it has a slow, very tough and sometime just poorly designed beginning, so it can be offputting.
Yep! You totally can. I made on just before fighting Horkos.
Enjoy
SMT3 Nocturne is a good choice. One of the best entrance points to mainline SMT. Then you can try SMT1 and SMT2 or even try the remakes of the original Megami Tensei games on SNES.
Devil Summoner is pretty good. Devil Survivor if you want a grid RTS style game. Digital Devil Saga is the most straight-faced JRPG of the spinoffs.
>Momunofu
Dude is always a laugh
I haven't really been given any obvious choices on Law/Chaos yet- my neutrality is entirely based on chain attacks for damage.
Horkus was weak to lighting, which is why I had Raiju, it's kinda mediocre otherwise.
I am skeptical of the masked man
>go pickup the stuffed Mothman
it's the real thing
Trust him, son of man, he would not steer you wrong.
HALT, SON OF MOTHMAN
What a coincidence you bring this game up on Mother's Day
Mastema is your friend.
I am skeptical of her forehead
Tell me about him. Why does he wear the mask?
Perhaps he is wondering why you would shoot a man, before throwing him into the Schwarzwelt?
Be wary of your alignment. It's weirdly easy to change.
That's it. If you're that far in you know what to do. I went into this game with no advice, you can too.
>decide to play all mainline games
>start SMT2 since I played 1 some time ago
>it's a fucking chore but finish it eventually
>start Nocturne
>get fucking destroyed
I have like 11 hours in, I feel like I should play on normal instead of getting getting my ass handed to me left and right but I don't really wanna play all the way up again.
If you weren't aware of it already, I believe SJ goes by Pokemon rules and experience is split between you and all the demons you have out. If you wanted to grind the MC (and you will need to grind a fuckton for certain bosses), switch out all your demon bros whenever you end a fight
Hard modes in SMT games are generally not worth it unless you are feeling particularly masochistic.
I never knew that...
Could have saved me sometime getting ready for Mem Aleph
SMT3 on hard is really fucking hard. It's not worth it.
That's actually really helpful; thanks user. I was wondering why exp seemed to drop off a cliff once I outleveled an enemy by a handful of levels- I figured it was an antigrind mechanic.
I was doing fine until I got to Matador. I just beat Dante and I can't get through a dungeon without savestating or wasting everything I have. Not sure if I have the energy to keep going or start over.
The only thing you ever need to know about mainline SMT games is that true power comes from friendship and the bonds and experiences you share with those in your life.
>Want to play SJ
>DSJ comes out Soon™ so im holding back
HMMM
Matador has always been the wake up call boss for SMT3.
just fuse doppleganger and breeze through bosses with reflected damage
This was exactly *why* I decided to play it.
Folks have been freaking out that the non-yukiko is going to ruin the game, or make it persona, or something.
Figured I'd get the vanilla experience before playing DSJ in a year or so.
Remember doppelganger's reflect becomes more powerful the weaker he is
No, you have it right, that's also a thing. Being overlevelled means you get less EXP, but having less guys out means it won't be distributed as much
Shits kinda unfair since all the bitchin demons you want always seem to be 5-10 levels away
...
I suppose if it becomes a problem I can summon another one at base level.
He's way too useful with all his buff skills and reflects to NOT use him, though.
I played all the game on hard mode but I got stuck at the end against the true final boss. you can avoid this by going for a STR build tho
Is it actually viable to put all of your level up stats into STR in Nocturne?
Provided you don't die from getting hit and missing, it's viable.
Mem Aleph would be hot if she had better hair
yeah. the game just hates magic. there's no mind charge and all the physical skills do waaay more dmg. Also if you go for the TDE you get a skill that only makes them stronger.
On Normal? Yeah, no problem. On Hard you will definitely want some EN to actually survive shit. Some AG for accuracy is nice too. But if you're dead set on WORLD OF STR, go for it. Just remember that Masakados gives +10 to all stats if you're going for all magatamas.
Hell I started as a magic fag and ended up using phys skills because they are far much better.
Mostly, but not all
Why would you play strange journey when there's a remake on the way
See
Also I can emulate on my phone and it beats the shit out of any mobile game.
BECAUSE IM LE OLDSCHOOL SMTFAG AND NEW SMT IS FOR NOOBS!!!!!
get ebin jojo reference and blow up everything
Relent.
We don't act like this in SMT threads.
How do you deal with phone emulators? I really can't stand having a button overlay (and by extension my fingers) covering a fairly large part of the screen.
Doomguy can literally solo the extra secret boss
Strongest SMT protag ever
>Strongest SMT protag ever
Patently wrong.
SMT games have never been hard unless you consider difficulty RNG bullshit.
It was less awful with certain older games since you can force all the buttons to the bottom.
You also rarely use the bottom screen in SJ so it isn't too awful.
It was worse when I played something like Ghost Trick the used the bottom screen more readily.
Overall though, you just shrink the buttons and learn to deal. Getting a bigger phone helps too.
I've been able to make sizable dents in my DS backlog that I wouldn't have otherwise playing on my phone.
I've died a handful of times, mainly from running into a blind pack that shitwrecks me, or going blind into a boss.
The game has been fair so far though, I never feel like its tedious.
Here come the powerlevels. We can all CHIM YHWH out of existence, user.
I can't really think of a handheld/console other than the NES to have few enough buttons to make that worthwhile. Maybe I'll grab a SNES one and try to play SMTI and II. Worst case scenario, it's bad and I stop.
Are there other SMT games with a similar feel/setting to Devil Survivor? I like the concept of weird demon shit going down in everyday society
SJ has you fucking off to Antarctica, Nocturne tales place after civilization gets trashed, haven't tried anything else yet
DemiKids maybe. Soul Hackers is in a sci-fi society, but they're definitely in society.
Actually, the early Persona games are exactly that.
Persona 2's gameplay is some of the worst out there though.
Devil Summoner?
SMT1, if you like old games to the point of being unplayable.
>tfw devil summoner 1 and if... will never be translated
SMT 1
It's an improvement over persona 1 though
this, even if it's not modern day, it is still happening in a non-demon society
SMT1 and Soul Hackers.
no it isnt
>Tfw Persona 1 is my favourite battle system
What happened, user? Too many damage types for you?
Here's what the PSP one I have looks like on my phone, for reference.
Does P1 have Tera skills?
It's not like any of them matter
Play SMT 3. It has one of the best fucking atmosphere in an RPG. I love that apocalyptic shit. Graphics are old but it augments the desolation and darkness.
Persona 1 has the pointless grid and for most fights you just gun down everything.
I still don't like how much the control stick and dpad cover, but I may as well give it a go. Is Retroarch still the way to go for phone emulation?
>SMT thread
>devolves into Persona discussion
gee
P1 rules, fuck everyone that memes on it as being bad.
>Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Eat a dick anyways, there was little persona discussion anyways
>Finish SJ
>Start Nocturne on Hard because I feel like I'm ready for anything
>The very first enemies I encounter in the game kill me in a single turn
Hahaha, hard game very fun hahaha
>Painfully make my way to Matador
>Shit Party
>No healing items, no SP, no Makka
>Grinding is impossible because the enemies are too strong
And then I started emulating p4.
If you're emulating psp, just use the mainline ppsspp app. The retroarch core is horridly outdated.
Retroarch covers most shit up to ps1/gba.
It's basically just a bundle of emulators you can get separately though.
DraStic and ppsspp are what I use for the DS and PSP, respectively.
60 000 Macca well spent.
Where the hell is the Gigantic!?
>Grinding
>In an SMT
>Picking Hard
>In an SMT
>Going to P4
>Of every single MegaTen game
>Kaneko and Cozy have given up on SMT AGES AGO
>SMTfags still refuse to die
FACE IT
IT'S OVER SMTARDS
>rush into hard in a game you've never played before
>getting upset late in the game at matador to realize that hard is actually fucking hard
Literally get the level 18 demon from fusion that's null to force and has media and it's easy. Matador loses two turns everytime he uses a force ability, even if he catches a force vulnerable party member
>7
now kiss
FUCKING PERSONACHADS
IT'S NOT FAIR
EYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
I never understood why persona fans are chads by default. I have seen nothing involving persona with chads
Is there a decent way to emulate phone games on PC so I can play SMT1 again? I already played the SNES version with the fan translation and kind of just want to see what's different in my experience since it's been awhile. Every time I try to get some sort of phone emulator on PC its full of ads and downloading random bullshit.
YOU'LL LOVE SECTOR ERIDANUS
YOU'LL FUCKING LOVE IT
I HOPE YOU LIKE PUZZLES TOO
LIKE STEPING ON SOME FUCKING RANDOM TILE ON SOME TIME OF THE DAY
FUCK man I don't know, this game didn't leave me happier than I was before playing it, I don't know, its a strange feeling.
Persona protags
>Larger dicks
>Fun to be around
>Interesting conversation anytime you want
>Nicely dressed and groomed
>Crack jokes all the time
>Will take you places
>Broad social spectrum
>Know interesting people you will be introduced to
>Behave like real men
>Smile on their faces most of the time
>Can dance and cook
>Chills in the school
Mainline """protags"""
>Tiny dicks
>Socially awkward
>Quiet
>Inhibited socially
>Boring
>Prefer to stay home
>Hate to dance
>Sad faces
>Make you cringe
>Creepy
>Often have either anger or anxiety issues
>Shoots up the school
Do it for him, user
>tfw using that PHYS repel on doppel on endgame bosses
>I think it was the nigger
>he hit fucking hard
>the demon is like lvl 20
>the boss is like 50 lvls stronger
>demon just reflected like infinite damage
I laughed so hard hahahaha.
Eridanus was great, but people here are always complaining about it.
And so were Grus and Horologium.
I am not joking, I had a lot of fun.