How does this make you feel?

How does this make you feel?

What is it?

New game with cloud?

good

Probably an upwards attack in Smash.

YOU'VE SEEN NOTHING YET

Upset.

seems about right. his sword is huge and clouds badass aura is pretty big too

Cloud's up air hitbox in Smash Bros.

Warlock punch hits people above and behind Ganondorf so it's not like imprecise hitboxes are new to Smash.

I fucking hate Cloud players because they absolutely refuse to admit how horseshit the character is

Oh, ok.

How the fuck is a "deluxe" version of this game not on the Switch?

Angry because it's also long as fuck. God Damn.

Because the next smash is going to be on Switch so they just aren't going to bother.

Smelly

It's rumored to be in the works. If so it'll be announced at the E3 direct.

DOOAL WEELD

This.

Also as much as I like playing bayonetta, she's broken as fuck if you know how to bat within.
You can punish literally anything except grabs with a well timed spot-dodge, teleport behind them, and get an advantage.

playing against cloud is incredibly unfun. chasing around shitters who do nothing but run away to press down b so they can have their retarded strong instant side b.

Dude don't hit the camera

>shulk and cloud share the same archetype as big sword wielders
>cloud has insanely good and fast frame data and hitboxes

>shulk doesn't

"balance"

Sounds good. I don't have a switch, but if I ever were to get one then that game is a must.


You mean a new one? Not nearly enough time has passed since the last one. I predict a deluxe version similar to MK8D

>smash
>balanced

Yeah, nobody in their right mind would call any of the smash games balanced.

smash 4 is ok, it's just that there's a few really annoying characters like cloud and some really shitty ones like jiggs and zelda, but the balance is still better than the other games and there's a decent amount of variety and tourneys

Yeah I guess. Maybe they'll add the squid kid into smash as well. Entirely unrelated but I will be forever salty about the Rathalos Hunter costume.

because smash 4 is garbage

Smash bros. is a garbage competitive game. The fact that they play that shit at EVO is hilarious.

The series as a whole? Unbalanced mess.
Smash 4 on its own? It's in an alright spot, balance wise. There's obvious tiers but the gaps are pretty small and most of the cast is viable at all levels with only a small group of actual dogshit characters.

Cloud, Bayo and Diddy are all better than Kirby, Robin and Pit, but it doesn't mean those three can't make waves.

>any fighting game
>balanced

By far the biggest thing is that Cloud has a bunch of lasting hitboxes.

>Maybe they'll add the squid kid into smash as well

I know people bitch about the roster being too big, but I'd be happy to have them in. Other classic characters would be great, but konami sucks now (No metal gear, no castlevania, no contra).

>check out smash tourney out of boredom
>in the finals you got the same old top tier characters playing tag for 10 minutes

TWO?!

E3 reveal.

The game is fine and fun.

I like it better than Brawl even if Marth is bad now.

>Marth is bad now.
Oh you sweet summer child

FUCK SPAMUS
FUCK CLOUD
FUCK MEWTWO
AND ALL YOU OTHER CHARACTERS WITH ATTACKS THAT YOU CAN CHARGE UP

After playing against a camping Samus I now main Olimar for the sole reason that his pikmin can stop projectiles.

>The game is fine
Not with all the interesting stuff locked behind a fuck-ton of rng and the netcode fucking you over for most of your online matches

Basically. Link is considered lower-mid tier and T (the best Link, from Japan) got 3rd at the most stacked tournament of all time.

They should just remove any charge type attacks that aren't unleashed automatically when you stop charging. Samus is fun as fuck if you play aggressively instead of just playing keep away. She is BAD that way too but that's just this shit game

You can use duck hunt's can to stop large projectiles like the charge beam, aura sphere, or shadow ball too

It doesn't make any fucking sense, but it's a good way to stop that playstyle.

Nothing will ever make me feel as bad as Link being mediocre in all four Smash games. Smash 4 was his last chance and it was blown.

>inb4 somebody mentions patches in Smash Switch

I doubt that'll happen and even if it did, I'm not about to buy a Switch just for that. I'm done with Smash Bros.

I think it's weirdly fitting that Cloud Strife and Bayonetta would be the most OP characters in Smash since their power levels are definitely way past any Nintendo characters.

I wouldn't call them OP, just annoyingly easy to use

But most of the most canonically OP Nintendo characters (Ganon, Kirby, Palutena) are low tier.

>FG warrior
It's 2017, there aren't anymore spamus alive anyways.

Palutena is holding back (just playing)
Ganon is only OP when his Triforce activates, otherwise he's just a regular strength evil dude
Kirby is Kirby

>Tfw you beat top tiers with low tiers
Blessed Zelda as my main forever and always
But please buff her. She deserves so much better

>can literally be anything with monado arts: from a speedy fuck from a hard hitter
>balanced

That gremlin is NOT Zelda!

>Goes into free fall after aerial Din's Fire
WHY DO THEY HAVE THIS IT'S SO FUCKING STUPID

Love playing as Zelda. I just wish she wasn't so easy to outmaneuver. Landing knight/teleport kills feels great, though.

Like I shouldn't take a goddamn free-for-all party game with Items so seriously.

Fuck! You are all insufferable idiots!

TWO SCOOOOOOOOOOOPS?

>none of this shit matters because he has garbage frame data and a super linear recovery

Items stopped being fun after Melee, they're just dumb now. Some newer items like pitfalls are tolerable but then you have shit like the Gust Jar which is just a win button more or less. Item-less Smash is more fun regardless.

All in all, smash 4 is pretty well balanced. There are a few characters that are too strong and a few that are too weak, but even mid and lower tier characters can fare well in tournament.

It's amazing to me that even post-Nerf diddy is one of the absolute best characters. Down tilt to upsmash is so free.

>mfw I got told that Dedede was overpowered

>*Hits you with PK Flash*

Thats the fucking hit box

who the fuck gets hit by PK flash

Can't fix a shit design

She needs to be rebuild, something Sakurai will never do

If anything she should get an overhaul. Her current moveset is designed to either be ridiculously shit, or OP, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

Wouldn't even get mad. You land a Flash, you either earned it or I went full retard. No inbetween.

People who aren't playing the game at all. Likely they went to the restroom and the faggot Ness player unpaused the game to hit them with it.

Wet

Literally this.
>That beautiful ring it makes when it hits
>Time suddenly stops for both of you
>the way your character freezes and accepts their fate
>They soar into the heavens above
Truly an honorable way to die

>*Sleeps you with Sing*

You will literally never hit PKFlash unless you're playing PM or SD Remix, this move is just broken by design
>move is set to fall below the floor by default when charged all the way
>A casual that doesn't know any better might never actually see this move go off

Why is Sing so fucking pointless in 4?

i wonder if i can relate this meme to Sakurai adding 4 more FE characters after Ike

Gee Cloud, how come your mother let's you weild TWO swords?

Friendly reminder that you don't deserve the honor to call yourself a Ness main unless you know how to hit the PK Flash

>I predict a deluxe version similar to MK8D
Smash for Switch: Deluxe
All DLC
All 3DS stanges added
Ice Climbers back
Travis Touchdown

A man can dream.

>beep beep beep

It may be pointless but we can all agree it's the most disrespectful move in the game

That being said BuffthePuff

Marth is quite good now, Leo has destroyed Zero like no one ever before.

I want this but I'm afraid it's only going to be the Wii U version with all DLC

Marth is good though?
It's just that he plays way differently from both his Melee and Brawl forms. IIRC he's like Top 15 on the most recent tier list.

IM SO FLATTERED

Which sect of the Nintendo fandom got the most btfo by all that Fire Emblem?

I only ever use Pound and Rest as far as her specials go. I honestly forget Rollout and Sing exist.

>yfw Smash eventually replaces Little Mac with an ARMS character

She's had some really interesting changes in Project M, making Din's Fire an insanely useful spacing tool.

Rollout is so useless. Couldn't they give her a projectile like Dazzling Gleam or something?

Shulk has polarizing Monado Arts.

I hope not. I'm complete shit with Mac but his min-maxed ass is so much fun to fuck around with.

>Marth is bad now.

Entitled and delusional Marthfags with their victim complex just because Marth isn't bullshit like he was in Melee and Brawl.

I've managed to pull it off in 2v2s. Also got two off in one game as Kirby against a Ness, in a tournament setting.

If they go the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe way then there should be more:
>upgrade to 1080p
>New game mode added: Battlemode
>New characters added
>2 Items at the same time added
>a lot of minor fixes added too

The Ness didn't Psi Magnet the Flash? What an idiot

I wouldn't mind a short range projectile for Puff. Something kind of quick and a little bit of knockback. Just a half-decent projectile, doesn't even need to do all that much damage.

2v2, my buddy mains Cloud and we have very good teamwork.

Zelda, if you're some random faggot thinking anyone that isn't series' main cast stands a chance outside Hyrule Warriors
definitely Metroid, if you're a Ridleyfag or a Metroid Prime fanboy
DK as well, obvious reasons
Pokemon, but lol that genwun shaft and shillmon stuff.

he doesnt even fight like he does in his own game

in the game he ALWAYS fights with his sword out

I was honestly expecting to have him as much swing arc as cloud does but fuckin samurai man

>Also got two off in one game as Kirby against a Ness, in a tournament setting.
You got a vod for this shit? I don't believe this for a second

>Zelda, if you're some random faggot thinking anyone that isn't series' main cast stands a chance outside Hyrule Warriors
pic related will never not be wrong

What if Zelda had a Nayru's Love Multi Shine?

I fucking wish I did, man. We weren't playing on the setup being streamed.

Sadly, since then zero has been mopping the floor with Leo.
Mr. R got surprisingly close with his cloud, though.

In any case, you're right. Marth is good again.