>Bungie's head of PC David Shaw confirmed that server infrastructure for the game was "complicated" and that they "do not have dedicated servers for Destiny 2 on PC"
>server infastructure is "complicated" Cross play?
Daniel Powell
There are basically hub cities, glorified chat rooms, where you create a party, and then enter an instance on a players machine.
Nolan Collins
It's as much an MMO as Diablo 3 is.
Gavin Campbell
>People will defend this
Henry Smith
Not only that but it's going to be on the fucking battle.net
Ethan Clark
Ah ok, I never played the first one since it never had a PC release. I thought it was a regular MMO .
Luis Thomas
DDDDDDDDDDDROPPED
Levi Harris
>No dedicated servers still
I don't think I ever had a PvP match on Destiny that didn't feel fucked, and I know how to setup a router. All they had to do was give it servers and actual content and Destiny could have been a good game
Gabriel Carter
Ready for that 20 tick 150 ping matchmaking goodness. I guess they realized that with OW - there is an actual interest in total shittery shooters.
Xavier Morris
Because I liked the first game and this is fixing most of my nitpicks with it
Kevin Mitchell
>>No Steam Can we stop pretending this is a bad thing?
I don't give a shit about destiny you're just a retard.
Ian Hughes
>All the supers are now just reskinned roaming bullshit. >All the pvp maps will be medium size >Two primaries at once >Agility, armor and recovery are now rng >No new races >No new classes >30 fps >1 raid
Way to go, Bungie
Ethan Price
No user we must suck lord gabens cock because le edgy pz master race
Carter Allen
>MMO >can only do 16 players at once
Jason King
Holy shit no one cares about this game with or without dedicated servers, goddamn.
Bungie hasn't been relevant in almost 2 decades.
Colton Wood
>implying there will be any dedicated server in AUS otherwise much better this way
Sebastian Kelly
>30 fps On console
Zachary Evans
its not an MMO this is what happens when fags go "lol who cares about genres nerd it's mostly the same shit as wow because it's online and you play with other peeps :)"
Nicholas Peterson
>our face when in ten years, no multiplayer games will release with dedicated servers even moreso than they don't release now
That shit will be sad for you embarrassing multiplayer fags. It'll be like the crying from the 90s with dial up lag all over again, except it will be constantly. For every single fucking multiplayer game. Just like old times.
Leo Wilson
>scorpio specs have not been announced
Nicholas Nguyen
>1 raid Can we finally use matchmaking? End game is so shit if you don't have friends with a specific console and Destiny. Who in their studio is so damn stubborn about people being allowed to use matchmaking for raids?
Hunter Foster
Sad thing is user that it being some cooperative FPS without dedicated servers is just as ridiculous. This happens when people with no standards buy video games.
Joseph Powell
Why are we regressing when it comes to online capabilities?
Bentley Russell
Watch the stream, raids have limited matchmaking now
Brody Hall
>yuropoor >always favor playing with ameribros >have slightly increased latency compared to closer servers >can stand it just fine because I extensively played QW back on the 90's on fucking dialup this is just like when characters train wearing those weights in dragon ball, just to later remove them so they're even stronger
Jaxson Cook
let's sabotage the game on PC to prove that Sony is the future.
Ayden Barnes
>limited How so?
Eli Moore
Oh man is it gonna be one of those retarded things where they'll advertise it as being a dx12 game, only be available on Windows 10 and it'll rub like ass on the highest end hardware?
Andrew Lewis
So is their goal to have this die faster than the first?
Thomas Price
>For Honor >Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Has there ever been a multiplayer game without dedicated servers that didn't turn out to be a blunder?
Julian Davis
At least we still have le funny Deadpool quip robot lmao!
Juan Lopez
i guess it's like a lobby system but with clans. you can choose to ally yourself with a person's clan during a raid as a solo player. It's intended to also work as clan recruitment.
Lincoln Hill
Why couldn't they just do full matchmaking like with strikes? I don't want to team with serious clanfags.
Juan Gonzalez
I hope not because I don't want to deal with people using hax
Ethan Thompson
Sup Forums's underage babies attest to the success of overshit every day. Where do you think actiblizz got the idea? It worked once so theres no need to ever bother with it again.
Robert Reyes
>Agility, armor and recovery are now rng What does this mean
Cooper Lee
Wait, Overwatch does not have dedicated servers?
Wyatt Price
>implying people give a shit about scorpio
Luke Allen
Wildlands and Warframe
Grayson Ortiz
>the argument is 60 fps
Carter Moore
he said wasn't a blunder lol
Robert Edwards
The garbage known as Modern Warfare 2.
Leo Johnson
they didn't want full matchmaking because they think that the raids are too tough and with matchmaking you'd get people who rage quit and troll along with people quitting mid raid more frequently since rejoining wouldn't be as much a hassle if they could jump in too easily
Justin Garcia
>blizzard hosting shitty pc port mike got cucked big time
Ryan Hughes
So its basically a glorified coop game
Brody Perry
Of course it does
Space Marine was fantastic
Dylan Gomez
Selling millions is blunder now?
Carson Barnes
what?
Eli Gomez
don't worry the PC master race is equipped with the best hardware available for the best peer to peer experience, they won't notice the difference.
Adrian Diaz
Why is this going to be on Battle.net if it doesn't have server side multiplayer?
People are just going to hack their characters, this is going back to the Diablo 1 days with open Battle net
Nice job Bungie
Kevin Reyes
fag
this
Carter Moore
>Space Marine was fantastic That may be so, but it was ruined due to the DLC and dedicated servers fucking up the online play. Not to mention losing all of your online progress if you had to reinstall the game.
Adam Gray
probably just so they can release 3 next year
Isaiah Murphy
Space Marine didn't have dedicated servers. That was the point. Besides the obvious host is in Malaysia or something the multiplayer was actually rather good
Evan Green
>sales means the game was good lol
Jayden Adams
The people that want to premake for raids aren't affected if they just allow full matchmkaing. No one other than the people choosing to use it are affected. I don't understand this "it won't work, don't allow it" mentality.
Evan Collins
>No one other than the people choosing to use it are affected.
not true
Dylan Barnes
Vermintide
Hudson Phillips
>Space Marine was fantastic >host drops out >entire match is paused I hated that shit.
Andrew King
no dedicated* I know that.
Jacob Johnson
those stats are tied to armor instead of subclass nodes so he's saying you'll have to grind for armor with the stats you want.
int/disc/str no longer exists.
Thomas Gray
Explain. I can never find an argument against full matchmaking other than it's not going to be a good experience for them.
Tyler Rodriguez
>unironically defending ubishit
Kevin Butler
some people don't want to just wait in queues all day and not having it as an option means there will be more people willing to LFG the old fashion way instead of just being lazy.
Joseph Hughes
Your account can cross between being played on PC or console, but PC and console version players can not play together.
Josiah Smith
D-o-fuckin'-A Peer-to-peer is absolutely Goddamned awful, whatever the game.
Colton Martinez
Consoles and console developers keep fucking things up.
Nathaniel Ramirez
Theres more money to be made by being cheap and cutting costs than spending on providing a quality game/service.
Thank the plebs.
Charles Cooper
no way I'm buying another p2p fiasco like for honor where 1 retard with a potato internet makes you disconnect
Landon Green
The game is shit anyways. Here's a synopsis of the game's story. See if you can make anything of it.
>Bungie >Started on Mac > Bought by Microsoft > Console developers
Bungie can make a fucking PC game, want to blame someone blame Activision.
Luis Bailey
That's just it though. They can CHOOSE to either do open matchmaking or LFG their way into an organized team. Artificially forcing people to LFG on reddit when they'd rather just click a button and wait is not helping anyone.
Gavin James
I thought it was a bungled glitchy mess?
Was it actually fun? I saw a few streams when it came out and it seemed like a shitty corridor shooter that barely made it out the door
Nicholas Hernandez
Nah, at their best they could succesfully dumb down FPS so it was accessible to consoles, and that was over ten years ago. They are console devs.
Chase Bell
maybe because their games are fun? if you will go beyond being pedo weeb who only plays dated nintendo and $60 visual novels (persona 5) garbage you will understand
Andrew Long
The multiplayer was fun
Ryder Thompson
oh yeah let me get right on generic open world watchtower climbing shooter simulator 2017
fuck off ubisoft cuck
Luke Rodriguez
>company from 90s are the same as from 2017 >company from 00s are the same as from 2017 >company from early 10s are the same as from 2017
can you be more retarded? do you know how many people would leave their company and how many new (sjw too) people would hop in?
Cooper Harris
While CE was a long fucking time ago, these guys know how to work outside the XDK. Halo 2 for Vista was a terrible port because it was reverse engineered out of the 200NT xdk.
Jack Cooper
hmm maybe i should have pulled the trigger on it then :/
Nolan White
Did you play Halo 4? Bungie is still bungie, they left all the sjws with microshit.
Joshua Davis
You can't even be sure of that, you don't know how much of the company has been replaced. And first and foremost its a console dev because thats how they make their games - they think of how it'll work on a console first, and will always design every element around that.
Lucas King
It doesn't fucking matter.
They won't make scorpio run at 60 fps and normal boners at 30 fps, that would fuck shit over in pvp balancing
Elijah Martinez
>I didn't even played the game the post
:* i got season pass too
PS before you embarass yourself again, not a single new ubi game has climbable towers
Dominic Edwards
Too bad it's long dead and Eternal Crusade is nowhere near as good
Connor Price
it makes it easier to find people that way though
David Parker
Characters are stored on bungie servers you stupid shit
Jaxson Jones
Oh hell yeah it will be console first, because they still have to work with a publisher. What I'm getting at is the core team at bungie is still the same for the most part, and their experience with PC games will benefit them over an exclusive console developer.
Leo Baker
>look at me i'm an easily amused ubicuck and there's nothing you can do about it
grats sure showed me
Julian Ortiz
lets be real here for a moment...
even if the game had dedicated servers, steam, and the greatest writers in the world... you'd still would've found a reason to bitch, moan, and complain.
literally NOTHING pleases you jaded fucks. Stop acting as if bungie dropped the ball here, the reveal was great. i'm excited.
are you excited?
Ayden Cox
>listing "No Steam" like it's a bad thing
Easton Perry
:* still butthurt
Parker Cox
>P2W microtransations
confirmed never played the first game
Charles Sanders
Why are people fussed about this shit? The first game was awful.