Do you agree with this sentiment?

Do you agree with this sentiment?

>Even among people who aren't consciously doing it, there's always a sense of derision when it comes to talking about Japan or Japanese media
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Considering all the P5 dick sucking not at all.

BotW and P5 are the highest and second highest games this year, so no.

If any game "transcends anime" its Persona.

Its the ultimate pleb franchise that every SJW fucking adore.

don't get me wrong eleanor is great and all, but

>Some people like X
>Some people like Y

Why is it so hard to simply ACCEPT this?

>/like/

Weebs have terrible victim complexes and are sometimes worse than SJWs.

I do, but when has ever telling narrow minded people that they are narrow minded helped the matters? Ultimately they are the only ones missing out because they end up enjoying less and closing themselves off from potential avenues of entertainment.

>It makes me seem smug
>I need a sense of legitimacy

holy shit self awareness.

>some people don't enjoy tropes associated heavily with anime and manga
>this is a personal attack on me, a weeb

...

I do.
I just don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. There is a reason why there is a stigma on japanese pop-culture, for the same reason why there is a similar stigma on majority of comics, fantasy literature etc...
It's because a lot of it - statistically significant portion without a doubt - is at best very difficult to recommend, at worst shit. And that comes from somebody who spend one third of his life watching anime.

Just fucking accept that and do a better job recommending shit to people. It's really not that hard to work with pre-concieved notions of other people if you aren't completely braindead.

Also, the problem is not that it comes from Japan. There is no similar problem when you recommend Japanese literature or cinema. Hell, nobody gives you any funny looks if you recommend Silent Hill 2 or fucking Dark Souls. The problem is with the extreme pop-cultural nature of the so called "weeb shit".
Nier sabotages itself right from the gate with the fucking character design. Of course non-weeb people will not trust it on a fist glance.

>he wants normalfags to get into japanese stuff

>And even when people /like/ a Japanese game or anime, it's because it "transceds culture" or "overcomes its anime-ness" or some shit

Because anime is shit, and the average japanese game is shit. I would never recommend Hyperdimension Neptunia or Akiba's Trip to a person.

Not really.
Unless you're talking to someone who is a hardcore dudebro who only plays Madden or Fifa, or you're trying to recommend shit that the only thing it has going for it is that its anime (think Neptunia), it isn't too hard to recommend more weeby games like P5 or Nier.
Just recommend them. It's not hard.

Good, Japanese shit should stay with as much stigma as possible attached to it, let one normalfags stick to it like leeches.

It's literally the reverse where I am from.

REAL FUCKIN' TALK: YOU ARE AN INFERIOR GAMER IF YOU DON'T PLAY GAMES FROM THE WEST AND FROM JAPAN TOO.


>There is a reason why there is a stigma on japanese pop-culture, for the same reason why there is a similar stigma on majority of comics, fantasy literature etc
Except you don't have to fucking push and sell to get your peers to try one of those things, but if your game recommendation is Japanese? You better have a full fucking sales pitch to give people, or they'll just shrug.

She just wants people to stop being so fucking biased. She shouldn't have to convince people that a "weird lookin" Japanese game is worth playing.

>Just recommend them
You clearly have no understanding of that she's saying. She's saying she has to convince people further than just recommending, because people treat JP games like second tier experiences.

Weebs should all kill themselves

>She shouldn't have to convince people that a "weird lookin" Japanese game is worth playing.
Actually that is exactly what she should be doing. The bias is there for a reason. It's not fucking groundless.

Anime is on par with marvel/DC to most people, but without the connections those things have to their childhood. So it's not viewed as an embracing of the inner child, it's just straight up manchild. The reality is both can be used to deliver damn good stories, but their aesthetic is juvenile, as are their tropes. After a lot of exposure it just becomes a normal thing, and those that break through the western barrier are usually lax on the anime-tropes because anime is mostly shit. Like comics.

>Actually that is exactly what she should be doing.
No. Because that implies that most Japanese games are dogshit, and the REAL reality is that most of ALL games are dogshit and not whatever the fuck you or some other fag was trying to push about how Jap games are generally shit.

Being set against it because it's Japanese makes you a fucking shistain of a gamer.

Well, then just do those few backflips. It's not hard.
>"Hey, do you know of any good games that came out recently?"
>"Persona 5 is pretty good."
>"That one looks pretty weird. I love RPGs, but I'm not sure it's for me."
>"Nah, it's a pretty great game. Beneath the anime exterior there's a fantastic experience to be had."
>"Alright, I'll check it out."
If they just don't want to play Japanese games, then there's literally zero reason to force them to. If someone is going to judge a game based on whether its anime or not, then just let them.

Maybe because 99% of the trash weeaboos rave about is literal trash (sometimes not even games) selling purely from fanservice.

It's no surprise then when people are skeptical on your tastes, much less aware of your bias.

>"Nah, it's a pretty great game. Beneath the anime exterior there's a fantastic experience to be had."
>"Alright, I'll check it out."
This is the part she's trying to cut out. I completely sympathize. I really shouldn't have to tell you that the game is worth it "despite" something. The hesitation on a suggestion should center entirely on the genre/gameplay and not something so trivial as the country of origin.

> If someone is going to judge a game based on whether its anime or not, then just let them.
That's what most of us well rounded or weeb gamers do. but it's fucking tiresome trying to talk games with people when you're always on the backfoot because everybody is a biased fucktard.

No.

I have 4 friends in college.
Two of them talk about Metal Gear and Dark Souls all the time.
The other two read anime and watch manga.
In my country nobody cares if you enjoy Japanese media

Is this "anti-weeb" sentiment an American thing?
Is it jealousy?

>Metal Gear and Dark Souls

Barely counts as Japanese.

Yes, japanese entertainment has been pretty much better than western one for a while

Reminder that unless you play all your Japanese games fully in Japanese (text and voices), you're still an EOP = barely any better than idiots who play western games.

Americans are ignorant mouthbreathing retards who aren't readily open to new or exotic experiences. Anybody can tell you that when abroad, Americans look unhappy and stressed out. It's hilarious. My friend always said they look like they're angry that this foreign country they've spent money to visit isn't exactly like home.

I have no problem talking about weeb shit to my non-white friends. It probably helps that I'm Asian (but not necessarily Japanese)

Nintendo is japanese and it's the normiest shit you can imagine but I get what he means. You can blame the weebs and their shit taste for ruining Japanese media in the west.

Why do you weebs want anime culture to become normalfags mainstream city?

What's up with Eromanga Sensei, a show about 12 year olds wanting the MC's dick, being so popular among normalfags?

The average game in general is shit. The percentage of good Japanese games is a hell of a lot higher than western ones.

I don't even know who the fuck this is

This. Japshit is a regressive tumor on gaming that repeatedly denies that in this day and age, the gay cartoon aesthetic that all easternshit tries to push will never be considered a selling point and only serves to hold gaming back and prevent it from evolving as a medium.
>ooh is day vuchuaa rearity gam?
>TOO BAD ROFURU INFECTU IT WIDDU VEE AHH HENTAI WAIFU GAMU
There's a reason Summer Lesson got banned from the US.

This. People avoid "Japanese-style" media because weebs embody the most obnoxious aspects of it. Stop trying to jam your moeblob loli garbage in everyone's faces all the time and maybe people won't have such a knee jerk reaction to Eastern media.

It already is, but weebs are trying to cling onto the past when it was nothing a niche. Video games were in the same spot 20 years ago and have gradually become more appealing to mainstream society. Anime is slowly going down that trend.

Pretty much this.
He is literally just sperging that some people dont like anime.

Do you like fast paced, combo heavy action games? Get Nier.
Boom, simple. Stop being a fucking high-and-might smug little shit.

I have no idea.

Its the same as Dragon Maid last season. A SoL show full of loli sexualization and yet the normalfags were loving it.

I want this ironic weebs fad to end.

The likelyhood that a Japanese "weeb" game will appeal to average non-weeb western audience is smaller than the likelyhood that a western game will. That is a pretty simple fact. Just like there is a stigma towards western games in Japan: it's a product of people having negative experience with the common prevailent trends in the medium.

>Being set against it because it's Japanese makes you a fucking shistain of a gamer.
Being weary of something that is extremly rich with patterns and trends you are extremely likely to find annoying just makes you normal. It's wrong to assume that it's shit because it's Japanese, period. It is completely normal to assume that it's MOST LIKELY shit because it's Japanese.

What exactly is so special about Persona anyways? Every time I see a Sup Forums thread about it, it's just scenes of people in high school talking to each other.

>games with a multimillion dollar marketing budget sell more than games advertised through word of mouth alone

auughh... iii... cant believe this..

>persona

Maid Dragon was a good show, I bet you didn't watch it

It's more like people like X and tell others that X is better than Y. Meanwhile, people that like Y see nothing but X being promoted everywhere.
Same goes if you switch X and Y around.

Americans still get mad at Japan over Pearl Harbour.
I've heard people talk shit about anything asian related by saying "fuck those pearl harbour bombing gooks"

Doesn't matter where you come from, if you're asian you're either Chinese or Japanese to them

>Monogatari
Nobody cares about that outside of Sup Forums

Normalfags don't watch anime. They're just more obnoxiously vocal weeaboos, albeit weeaboos that still say the same shit and watch the same shit as you faggots. You're just despised by the world handing you a mirror for your cancerous faggotry and so I deluded yourself into thinking it isn't people like yourself in order to free yourself from criticism and self improvement.

KYS weeb scum.

> weebshit isn't heavily advertised
kek

Hang yourself you deluded swine

>has a anime pic as his main image
>expects people to take him serious
Lol

>Transcends anime
>Is literally made for weeaboos
No

Im not saying its a bad anime.

Usually normalfags were just sticking with the occasional FOTM show like Re:Zero, AoT, SAO but now even them watch SoL show about little girls. I just want to understand what the fuck happened especially when said shows have sexualization of little girls.

Two years ago we were disgusting pedo freak and now two years laters its ''OH YEAH BRO GOTTA SEX KANNA SHES SO HOT POST MORE MY MAN''

>fucktard XD
Reeks of underage and tumblr. Come back at 18 or not at all

Its the exact same thing in Japan about western games
People prefer stuff that is made for them and about their culture what a shock huh

No it's not. Any and all games are likely to be trash. Worrying about national origin is fundamentally idiotic. The same spotty quality levels exist no matter where a game comes from.

>Americans still get mad at Japan over Pearl Harbour.

Midwest and Southern rednecks may still have that mentality, but I don't think most teenage Americans give a shit or know about Pearl Harbor

Kill yourself for reposting this same shit for months now.

Name a japanese not nintendo game more advertised than mainstream USA games.

>For years weeaboos cry about anti anime normalfags bitching at the vocal minority of weeaboos for being faggots
>Now there's more anime fans
>Weeaboos somehow still end up blaming normalfags despite them just previously hating anime

You're a special kind of retarded.

>but I don't think most teenage Americans give a shit or know about Pearl Harbor
They inherit the hatred from their parents. They don't need to know about Pearl Harbour

Jesus fucking christ who the fuck CARES!? What the fuck is it with us Americans and trying to turn every minor thing into a big fucking deal.

Best post in the thread

People are getting more exposure to loli characters and realizing that they're fucking cartoons and not actual children.

Maybe if 70% of the Japanese game's weren't using cute anime girls as a crutch, people would look them differently.

Not saying there's anything bad to it. I do love me some anime butts and shit, but most normies find """excessive""" fanservice off-putting.

Its just memes they probably dont really care about it they only like sharing le anime girl pic on their twatter
I think it all started with umaru

They got CrunchyRoll to watch new episodes of normie shit, then decided to check out what else was available on the site.

You are talking out your ass.

I've never once heard anyone in my actual life bitch about Pearl Harbor, you're absolutely full of shit. I'd call you a leaf, but you clearly hail from the jihad zone.

Are you denying that Jap games are very likely to bear very similar traits? Traits that many people find very easily objectionable?
Rest of your stupid rambling and random "look at me how kewl I am for saying "everything is shit" is irrelevant.

I literally think of anyone as a joke if they have anime avatar.

Take a look at the Steam front page from time to time.

fucking weeb

>Ignorant and shallow people prefer to stay in a comfort zone
ftfy

I do the same but with pepe/meme avatars

The less normalfags, the better.

Prove me wrong.

They are all the same now really.

This is all just so unnatural to me. Its there is one thing normalfags don't want any association with its definitely pedophilia.

I don't care, normalfags can be nice people.
Just stay off Sup Forums

No I don't agree. People don't like gay Japanese anime shit. Good stuff from japan like Dark Souls and Metal Gear get the recognition they deserve because they're not gay anime cringey shit and are actually good.

Not him but I've heard people say similar things before.
I live in rural west Texas though so most people here are pretty racist, probably not an accurate representation of Americans

True, ideally games wouldn't be even translated to English.

>DUDE ANIME WEEKEND SALE

Wow sick advertisement.

Its all a meme dude they dont think is pedo
Is just the "in" thing right now.
>Im such a weeb lmao look at my anime avatar and the anime references I make in my posts

loli isn't the equivalent to real cp, fuck off

Can you at least try to pretend you're old enough to post here?

>Are you denying that Jap games are very likely to bear very similar traits?
Sure. But I'm mostly telling you to shut the fuck up and realize that these "typical JP flaws" you're thinking about have western equivalents.

>Rest of your stupid rambling and random "look at me how kewl I am for saying "everything is shit" is irrelevant.
You're cute. I threw an argument at you that you can't rebutt, so you've decided t openly ignore it.

All games share the exact same probability of being good or being bad.

Wait, I always thought that was a loli(male)

My whole life's been a lie

No. This person seems like a teenager or manchild.

lol kys dumb ironic weeb

*attaches smug Pepe image*

So they pretend to like it just to feel cool? Like the ''haha such a video games nerd xD'' type of people?

Not what I think either but to a normalfags yes loli can be considered pedophilia.

I always have fun with "Japanese culture experts"

Read the rules and lurk more.

I mean it doesn't surprise me that older people might old those views or a certain segment of people, but Pearl Harbor grudge holding is by no means an American thing at large. Hell, even 9/11 grudge holding has cooled down massively with all these cucks wanting to let towelheads in in droves. Japanese shit is popular as hell in the US and in no way drums up any controversy simply for being Japanese (subject matter is another thing).

Same shit.