Is this a good entry level MH?

Is this a good entry level MH?

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No, get 4U instead.
I feel sorry for anyone who's first MH was Gen.

They're all entry level

you'll hear two responses through this thread
A/ Monster hunter generations ruined monster hunter because other people get to choose to use playstyles that casualize the experience for them, therefore buy 4U
B/ Monster hunter generations is perfectly fine but there's a large chance of the expanded version being localized soon, so save your money and therefore buy 4U

Sure go ahead, it should be fine.

If you're not very good like me (I almost never Cart/Faint/Die, but I very much doubt I'm MVP), you'll find the Deviants to be particularly annoying though.
I still can't dodge right and I'm well over a thousand hours in.

4U is a better intro to the series. Generations is fine but it's more for people who have been playing MH for a while. It's a lot of fanservicey stuff and has no story at all.

I mean MH is never gonna be a rich deep cinematic experience but I liked MH4U's story well enough. It starts off a lot easier than past games, probably still plenty of people playing online too.

MH XXX when

Generations is okay but I don't think it would have anything that would hook a new player. Village was so incredibly boring, and I have no idea how a new player would deal with constant literalwhos from nostalgialand if they had never played any monster hunter games before.

4u has an actual tutorial and a story to play through so that's a much better introductory game.

Gen or 4U is fine. Don't get both though.

Assuming they are keeping styles for the future games, then yes, if no go MH4U or Comfy Tri on Dolphin, I never played 3U

4u or pirate XX

To add to the first point. You have the option to pick the "old" style of hunting and not equip any of the Hunter Arts. So saying Generations "ruined" Monster Hunter by adding flashy new moves and some variations on how the game plays is for mouthbreathing retards who cannot resist the things they claim to hate.

Also if you hate how other people play in Multiplayer or if you think their usage of Hunter Arts/different Styles "casualize" your experience remember playing Multiplayer with 4 hunters is casual no matter how you cut it.

Many of the randoms online are carried scrubs no matter their hunter rank. They probably never cleared Village too.

Learn how to play the game yourself first before you dive into the cancer of triple carting mongs who will beat the monster that was just brought to sleep for sleep bombing or become one yourself.

If they don't continue with the things they added in Gen, you are going to get your face kicked in for the next mainline monster hunter because Gen lowered the skill floor so far OP. But knowing Capcom, this spinoff is going to be Incorporated into the mainline.


That's unfortunate. 3U is one of the best Monster Hunters.

i doubt XX will be localized and it's not expanded that much anyway. As someone who transferred his endgame Gen file to XX, there was only about 10 more hours of content. I was hoping it would have been the 4U-tier upgrade that 4U was to 4, but it wasn't given how they abandoned the concept of standard sub-species for generations and carried it into XX.

I pirated it and still feel like shit. Can't imagine anyone would be dumb enough to actually buy it.

If you got 10 hours of content out of XX then you must be a very well known speedrunner in the monster hunter community, what's your youtube channel?

I don't get the Gen hate that much, aside from them removing the fun ways to Guard Point/Shield Change and making it so that everyone has to post their own Deviant quests to actually progress I thought it was fine.

All MH games have glaring problems anyway, I don't see why Gen's are so much of an issue.

>there was only about 10 more hours of content

Added to the easy 3000?

they localized MHStories, I'm sure they'll bring XX over in a year or so, Capcom seems to like the West for now

>they localized MHStories
Wait, really?

you don't have to be a speedrunner. they only added like 10 monsters man, many of which were in 4u but were missing from gen, and none of which include the huge mohran or dalamadur or gog fights, and the new final boss monster is actually a pushover even despite G-rank, with all the deviants highest level being "drop the game" tier levels of OHKO unfun gimmicks, with virtually no practical reward for completing them to boot.

the endgame of XX is fuckin' autistic and unfun as shit. No amount of armor transmogrification could overcome that. I'm not even a casual and the final level of deviants are still bullshit and poorly balanced even between different deviants - and all of this comes after the fact that deviant armor isn't even somewhat good anymore since the easy final boss's armor is virtually Athena's Ass Lite: The Armor set, allowing for virtually free customization of armor skills.

XX sucked cocks.

yeah, it was in a Direct about a month ago, will probably come out in a few months or around E3

No, play Freedom Unite on PPSSPP
The 3ds ones are casual garbage shit

You count "hours of content" as if you only ever fight monsters once, as if the franchise you're discussing isn't even monster hunter

Are you retarded?

yeah man, I love me some broken-ass hitboxes, gimped movesets, balancing issues worse than 4U's memeblade, and fucktons of useless subspecies

Oh neat, thought we'd never get that one.

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If you played Gen well, you will not need to make another set than what you've got. How's that for perspective? There's no reason to grind for shitty parts for shitty armors you wont be making. You'll need to do just a couple of hours of grinding to g-rank max out whatever weapon you're carrying in from Gen, and then when you beat the final boss - that's almost where all your effort is going to go into making a new set since it has such neat armor and weapons - but nothing truly interesting to deal with after that aside from the absolutely unfun super deviants.

There isn't an endgame to be happy about in XX.

Newbie friendly, just don't expect to go back at FU and not get your shithole brutalised beyond repair.

Try 4U instead, it is also newbie friendly but it can make you endure you just enough shit to try older games and not get raped right away.

However if you really want veteran-like skill level then try FU.

>yfw they remove adept in MH5

Adept Style Gunlance is arguably a massive improvement to the weapon which it desperately needed. And even though the Heat Gauge is pretty badly implemented and ends up nerfing GL a bit from 4U, it's not as crippling as people make it out to be if you can actually play the weapon.

There usually isn't, the fun comes from making sets for different weapons for different gimmicks for different monsters. You're clearly a very tunnel visioned individual, and so that sort of thing doesn't appeal to you as someone who only wants "a happy endgame", which has never ever been good in a monster hunter game, but don't act like your opinion is fact.

I hope they do away with all the style stuff in MH5

mounting can stay though, along with the 5th gen's new gimmick, flying around BOTW style on customizable hangliders

>FU
>muh reel mh ekspearyants
old and busted. P3 is indisputably the best entry level game

adept GL is shit and brave GL is what it should have been.

really it was autistic of them to make adept style for most of the weapons be an easy dodge, and the weapons that didn't get the dodge ended up getting shafted with their stupid parries.

Adept gunlance + the rocket boost is Goat. take that back.

4U had a great endgame. Most people would agree that it actually had an endgame. Even going and helping new hunters with your maxed out end-game gear was fun.

XX has no endgame and the game was always easy for virtually everything anyway, so there's no point in even going to help newbies.

and Monster Hunter has never been about different weapons or gimmicks for different monsters sans the difference between huge damage sponge bosses and normal standard monsters.

You're just a faggot and you write like a faggot. Only you believe you're important.

gunlance + dragon's breath is better than anything you'll be averaging with adept. I'd argue Dragon's Breath + Rocket Boost is goat, and you only get the most utility out of that with Guild.

Brave at least makes it easier and quicker to pull off fullbursts on top of it's mobility with brave dodging, so adept GL truly doesn't even really matter.

I was talking about regular Charge Blade man, I don't know about the exploding stick.
They made it all finicky now, though it is still manageable.

I hate how you're forced to follow through with the input you used to GP. (GP into forced downward Axe swing, for example.)

I thought Gen was harder than 4U.

why would you think Gen was harder than 4U?

>says the fag using reddit spacing

FU was my first MH and i fell in love with it but i really wouldn't wanna go back to that shitmix.

>reddit spacing
i love this meme

What about the WiiU one?

Not him, but fuck hyper metal raths.

*saves mh generations*

it's pretty good but runs at a locked 30fps for some reason, 3G is my favorite MH game and it's a pretty decent port other than some 3ds quality textures here and there

Because I had a harder time playing it? What else do you want me to say?
The monsters are too hyper (Fast is okay, but endless hopping is not) and some of them should only have been brought back after some moveset changes.
I don't believe anyone likes that Alpha Pig thing, for example.

Excluding 140GQ 4U was also fairly forgiving.

*forgets about her*

>five fingers

There's no such thing as a good Monster Hunter game, entry level or not.

there's no such thing as a good game*

>He is a soulsfag
go back to your broken hitbox mess and ridiculous i-frames.

*saves mh xx*

They're even more retarded in XX's G-Rank, but still that's really only two monsters in Gen that are difficult - and they're pretty late-game.

140 GQ's were more challenging and rewarding in 4U than any hyper metal rath or the super deviants in XX, so there's some opinion on what defines being "hard" there.

I wouldn't consider the super deviants to be hard, i'd consider them broken and unfun and probably even untested. It takes speedrunners over 10 minutes with Adrenaline + Heroics to solo them, where Adrenaline and Heroics were otherwise banned / it's own category that barely didn't matter because of how much significantly easier it made an already pretty easy game.

50th post best post

The only other option besides Adrenaline/Heroics is youtu.be/NvvtEmTeP4A

I don't care for any of the styles. I've been playing some 4u lately, and the fights are so much more fun when the monsters isn't balanced around you adept dodging and art dodging out of everything.
Both the mentioned dodges also makes the game less fun and rewarding

Why every attack in MHX/XX feel Code Vein-tier weightless?

Was thinking the same thing when using GS between 4U and Gen. Is it the visual FX I wonder?

4U is a better entry because it'll help you not be so reliant on stuff like arts and styles. But mounting is still pretty fucking powerful.

Salut!

>4U had a great endgame
>>>>>>>>U had a great endgame

>Succeed in getting a friend to play MH
>They end up maining IG and rely on mount spam to actually do anything

Grandpa

4u's endgame was basically loot crates. Given how much replayability those have added to many PC games where you often pay for them with real money too, a free version of that was pretty nice.

Also, again, you could go help newbies which isn't a thing in XX since they don't need your help.

Yes goy farm for those randomly generated weapons locked behind monsters that simply do more damage and have more health. What amazing end game worth spending time on.

If you're new to MH You should always play the latest in the series because you'll find other people to play with online.

MHX pissed off the oldfags because it doesn't have G rank, and people can play the game anyway the want with the hunter styles.

The only real downside to MHX for someone new is that it has a fuck ton of fanservice that you're either not going to get or are going to be confused by.

This fucking faggot monster is the bane of my existence since FU, but his LBG is sweet at least.

I think you mean granddad

>Yes goy farm for those randomly generated weapons locked behind monsters that simply do more damage and have more health. What amazing end game worth spending time on.

Not that fag you're responding to but be fair: MH is literally kill things to hopefully with good RNG make weapons to kill harder things to drop more RNG things to make more weapons

I love how FU and 3U are completely absent from endgame arguments.

>High rank is just monsters doing more damage and having more health
ok fine
>G rank is just monsters doing more damage and having more health
ok fine
>140 is just monsters doing more damage and having more health
wtf? NO! fuck that!

>3U
>Swimming wasn't so bad, but definitely needed some tweaks.
>4U
>'Verticality' wasn't so bad, but definitely needed some tweaks.

Swimming's movesets needed to be more similar to movesets while on ground, and underwater movement needed to be more intuitive, or at least needed to go into more detail how dodging worked underwater.
'Verticality' and mounting needed to have more weapon classes capable of being able to mount monsters without a shitton of ledges all over the map, since fighting around ledges would often lead to unneeded damage being taken due to a dodge being changed from interacting with a ledge. And mounting? It was nonsensical that anyone other than the mounter harming the monster could cause the mounter get thrown from the monster should it flinch.

Its still a shame they actually took the time to do quality of life changes for their verticality and mounting, but just removed swimming altogether.
t. Huntard whose first game was 3U

Generations and 4U are the ones you should be considering.
Generations is the vs. of Monster Hunter
4U is the regular Street Fighter of Monster Hunter
So choose whichever one fits you. But know that Charlotte only plays Generations so you will definitely want to factor that in when making your mind up.

>Dos
>Seasons/Bounties weren't so bad, but definitely needed some tweaks

People who say that one MH is good and another is bad are idiots. They're all great, and there's no bad place to enter the series.

Is there any reason to keep playing FU when I have access to P3rd?

I hope monster hunter 5 just completely ignores all the older monsters and just makes a whole new roster. Never happens though, it's always the same shit. "Oh look, rathalos. Oh look, le ebin invader deviljho. Tigrex, of course. End high rank where is he... ah there's the rajang." Fuck this. Fuck japan and their nostalgia boner

I just hope it's not on the 3ds again. My hands can't take it anymore.

Any future Monster Hunter game is almost guaranteed to add two new types of Rath that are nearly identical to fight to every other one.

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You forgot the part when new ranks introduce new monsters and subspecies, and give every monster new moves and attacks and atributes.
Only 140GQ is literally "just more health and attack", which it's not even that because you can't fight most of the monsters like that, only select ones.
Also
>defending loot crates

The world can never have enough raths

>Removing the franchise's flagship and his waifu
>Removing tigrex and his clone army
>Removing the game's real casual filter
fuck jho tho, he is a boring cunt.

when is /ourguy/ going to return to the main games?

Just accept that Shagaru bombed your ass back to the camp

I can be the Yama you want, bb

Man I'll never forget the time a monster went to sleep, I snuck up on it, placed a bomb by its head, unsheathed my charge blade, started getting into position, then this mouthbreather runs up and pokes it in the legs with his SnS, and this was late G-rank, and he didn't understand why I was mad after either

Only time I ever had a bad experience playing with people from /mhg/

>Only 140GQ is literally "just more health and attack"
Doesn't the Thunder Puppy get an entire new charge level with it's own twists on the moves?

No need for such measures.
I play exclusively offline.

Zinogres starts off supercharged and when you knock it out, it retains some of its charge left instead of losing all of it.

Man, like. What a cool idea for a boss. Just a big weird squid blob thing but it uses the bones of dragons and shit to make itself look like some undead monstrosity.

Your Shaggy is looking a little low-res, friend.

Astral set in Spla2n when.

So 140s were too much for you to solo?

>I hate MH so that obviously means I'm a Soulsfag
Souls games are trash too.

And then they made it the most underwhelming boss fight possible, jesus that thing is boring to fight, even moreso than other gimmicky elders like jhen and dala

name a good game

Thought it got a yellow-ey glow and a few changes to the timing/pattern of it's lvl 3 attacks or something like that? Same deal with Rath's combo changes in High to G Rank.

I don't know, It's been a while and I only fought it a few times with my Random Buddy.
I wasn't trying to argue against you, mate.

thx, it is because I'm not using my main computer so I don't have my MH folder.