What's a good game for mathematicians, Sup Forums?
What's a good game for mathematicians, Sup Forums?
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>Not appreciating the intellectual engine that allows modern civilization to exist in the state it does
>intellectual engine
i bet you think math is an universal law
there's only one thing I'm interested in anymore, and it's only tangentially connected to video games. I like looking at my friends' feet while they play video games.
how can I get guys to play video games barefoot with me? it's the only thing that excites me anymore. do you guys play games barefoot? I hope you do.
I don't actually, I'm not a Platonist at all and see mathematics mainly as a mental tool that happens to be useful.
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>he doesn't consider mathematics the language of the universe
you think we "create" mathematics, rather than "discovering" it? are you retarded, or something?
1 + 1 = 2 is not just a tool, it's a fact/truth of the universe (insofar as we can delineate two discrete entities and sum them, don't try to play any anal nitpicking games with me faggot I'm already anticipating your fucking sophistry).
you have to be a complete liberal arts nu-male to think that math is not important
and I say this as a person who's shit at math
It's an abstraction. I could say "is" is a law of the universe. You can't deny "is". But we'd abandon it because it has no utility.
>get a STEM degree
>get a STEM job
>get bored out of my mind
I lost my passion like 2 years into the degree. Anyone know this feel
>all the useless shit they taught you throughout your curriculum that you'll never, EVER have any practical use for
Mathematics is a fucking joke.
I have Masters degree in Maths and I play Nep games.
if you classify statisticians as a subclass of mathematicians, EVE
Not him but, Kant's ideas are pretty solid and convince me more.
>insofar as we can delineate two discrete entities
Which is exactly what's dependent on mental concepts and what may arguably be a human construct rather than a fundamental aspect of reality. Of course you could argue that the universe does actually exist in a discreet way, or that the fact that it's possible to conceive of the concept of discreetness implies that the ability of a mind to do so is a fundamental part of reality in that sense.
you sound like a reddit tier le science! fag who probably doesnt even know shit about math.
>not finding any use for arithmetic or algebra in your life
Sorry you chose to live your life in the garbage mines.
Math is an abstraction of interactions. That's it, really, it doesn't have mystical powers nor does it let you talk with God. It's just what we made to represent discreet things we perceive.
>if you classify statisticians as a subclass of mathematicians
Eh...
It honestly amuses me at how badly otherwise competent mathematicians can suck at understanding statistical thinking. The inherently experiential/philosophical elements of it seem to really screw them up.
I'm still waiting for the day where i'll need geometric proofs, trigonometric or pylonomials in my daily life.
People are attracted to math because it's all so clear and consistent, and statistics is completely focused on dealing with stuff that by their nature can't be clear and consistent.
The game of writing my fucking thesis.
At least I have some time to rest for an hour while the goddamn neural network runs on my computer.
"is" doesn't describe anything about the universe, it is a convention of language used to communicate/postulate some property of some thing. it has no fucking relation to mathematical laws/theorems.
on the other hand, a^2 + b^2 = c^2 describes a fundamental truth about the relationship between the three sides of a right triangle.
like I said, don't give me the bullshit about "but 1 + 1 = 2 is just an abstraction because we can't be confident that discrete entities even exist!11" -- regardless of whether we can delineate two discrete entities, the fact of the matter is, if there were two discrete entities (that is to say, if such a thing as two discrete entities does/could exist), then 1 + 1 = 2 would describe the result of summing them.
and don't get me started on the experimental data that supports this. you can't land on the fucking moon if sums and discrete entities are just fanciful abstractions. mathematical laws/theorems are foundational to the universe/reality because their manipulation all but verifies that they are. but you philosophy fags don't like it when I use arguments like that, so I try not to bring THE REAL FUCKING WORLD into discussions like this. you know, because you guys like to pretend that it either doesn't exist or that sufficient evidence for its existence can't even be approached in any serious way.
Me too. I like the idea of structuralism. Mathematical objects don't really "exist", but some systems embody relations that we describe as mathematics and what we do is uncover these relations.
>it is a convention of language used to communicate/postulate some property of some thing
literally what math is
the modeling of continous probability still makes me cringe desu but it seems to work...
Math deals with logic, statistic deals with chances. Math people usually couldn't grasp that concept.
Do you guys have jobs yet
we use language to communicate some property of some thing, and yes we have mathematical "language" that does that for us, but those relationships exist independent of language altogether.
that is to say, even if no animal had ever conceived of language, a^2 + b^2 = c^2 would still describe the relationship between the three sides of a right triangle. in other words, that relationship exists INDEPENDENT of language. it does not rely on language whatsoever.
SpaceChem maybe? Though that's more computer science than pure maths.
you don't know a goddamn thing about math, you're probably some redditor that's never done a proof in your life
>there are people who consider this shit hard
>mfw I need to do calculus as of variations and I naturally suck at math and need twice the effort to grasp the same shit compared to an average person
>all these fags not answering ops question
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Those are useful shit dude. Geometry and trigonometry is useful at designing shit. Polynomial is useful for modelling shit.
I'm shit at math but Disgaea is a good numbers generator.
But that is the language
Does anyone have the "engineering method" picture? You know the one, where you expand 1+1 = 2.
>>that is to say, even if no animal had ever conceived of language, a^2 + b^2 = c^2 would still describe the relationship between the three sides of a right triangle
It wouldn't describe anything, because no one would have formulated the abstract idea of a right triangle.