Why don't western games have good soundtracks?
Why don't western games have good soundtracks?
Ian Morales
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Daniel Cook
>wanting anything aesthetically pleasing in your video games
you fucking bigot, everything must be ugly and "realistic" and colors and music are tools of OPPRESSION anyway
Brody Baker
*blocks your path*
Adam Ramirez
They do? They're just not as good.
You know there's something between good and shit, right?
Lucas Reyes
except they do
James Green
Obviously mean not as good as Japanese games.
Juan Hill
Are you asking for recommendations or just looking to start shit up? Many games from both Japan and the West have great soundtracks.
Jayden Butler
The only one I can think of is American McGee's Alice.
David Perry
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???????????
Have you not heard of Jeremy Soule????????
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Jaxon Moore
The only country that competes with game soundtracks is Japan.
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Henry Stewart
There are some good western soundtracks, but Japan effortlessly beats West when it comes to both diversity of video games osts and their overall quality.
Ayden Nguyen
Because they create one theme and then make 6 versions of it for the rest of the game
Or they use stock background music since they dont consider it important
or the composer has zero range and can only do that "epic action sequence" tune you find in every average action movie
Thomas Parker
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tfw OP has no idea what he's talking about
Austin Collins
Danny Elfman can have his moments
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Blake Collins
Western music composition for video games is just different and often pretty fucking unmemorable when they're trying to be serious. It think it's more if a current day thing though.
Kayden Martinez
Western games can have good soundtracks, but it's usually pretty rare these days cause music isn't considered as important when it fucking is.
Japan have always been about making good game OSTs.
Ethan Martinez
>final battle in Shadowrun HK
>suddenly this starts playing
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Aiden Long
Some western games with good soundtracks, off the top of my head:
Bastion
VVVVVV
Witcher 3
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Call of Duty (I'm thinking World at War specifically)
Payday 2
Binding of Isaac
Hotline Miami (probably doesn't count)
Rayman series
Matthew James
>Wrong
>Links to a 3s loop
Okay.
Carson Lewis
>Elfman
So is he an elf or a man?
Carter Turner
>Kirill Pokrovsky is dead
>he will never make another beautiful OST for Divinity
Wyatt Bennett
most western games try to emulate stuff from movies so they end up just being background tone setting noise
Jap games tend to make the music themselves be a part of the situation they are used in, which makes it more memorable
the only western game music that I can remember is Assassin's Creed II
Ryan Campbell
This is the west's main problem.
Connor Hill
Can't fucking wait for Divinity 2, but I just know the soundtrack won't be as good
Adrian Ortiz
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I could go on if my memory was better and I had my soundtrack library in front of me right now. These are my favorites and purely subjective, of course.
Joseph Perez
Western games are just as good as Gook games at using music, and I can prove it with one song.
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Michael Martin
I'd say Japan has the more memorable soundtracks, but anything Mick Gordon composes is gold.
Leo Ramirez
user, OP just said Soundtracks so surely the objective answer to the Call of Duty choice is IW?
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Jordan Reyes
The first game's music was better. Autobutter's felt too busy if you ask me.
Anyway, R&C 1-3's music was good. Mick Gordon's stuff is really good, though not really to my taste. Jeremy Seul's music is great. Michael Hoenig's BG soundtrack is pretty unforgettable to me, but I can't rightly say whether it's truly great or I'm just nostalgic for it. Plenty of modern games have fantastic music too, and not even just the one's that borrow from japanese games.
Juan Edwards
Say that again motherfucker
Thomas Gutierrez
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John Wright
WE'RE GONNA SHOUT IT LOUD
EVEN IF OUR WORDS SEEM MEANINGLESS
Levi Williams
>what is homm3
>what is quake
>what is doom
>what is deus ex
>what is warcraft
>starcraft
>baldur's gate
>Tribes
>Tomb raider
Hell, even the star wars kinect soundtrack is good, in a laughable way.
Zachary Wright
Good western OSTs are usually limited to non-RPGs
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James Jenkins
I should have said unmemorable instead.
Jose Howard
The problem with the west isn't the soundtrack itself it's that they have no idea how to utilize it's fullest. Majority of games have just the soundtrack blarring in the back of the game and you barely notice it unless you focus on it. Japs usually weave it into the game itself which makes it for an amazing experience.
Landon Russell
>A lot of it does a gorgeous job at creating atmosphere, but what you never see is really unforgettable melodies
Complete horseshit, I can give an example of a track from a western game that does both perfectly. youtube.com
Christopher Watson
>mfw I have liked all fallout & TES soundtracks
Todd, just fuck off.
Dominic Price
You jest and yet there are those who actually think that way.
Mason Anderson
Oh shut up, Soule was exciting 15 years ago.
Kyd is way better.
Logan Turner
>naming Baldurs Gate 2 which was released in 2000 when they are talking about modern musical scores
Tyler Morgan
I always wonder why no one ever posts WoW (or even W3) music in these threads.
I think it's consistently very good.
Robert Collins
Sounds generic as fuck.
Ryder Rivera
Western game music was always mediocre,right now they have just given up on videogame music and just make movie soundtracks.
Bentley Reed
Videogames have shit soundtracks, though? This includes Automata:
>Repetitive.
>Zero musical innovation.
>Typically copies the composers influences blatently.
>Nothing interesting to note.
Christian Long
>modern musical scores
Even those the west rapes japshit (((music))) harder than an underage schoolgirl. Even AAA western have better soundtrack now. Worse of all is that the west managed to make a Jap themed music better than the jap can.
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What happened Japan? Also Klepacki and A.Brandon are godtier.
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at least post something jeremy soule did that's actually good
Jayden Flores
What? I know plenty of western games with good soundtracks. Persona 5, Dark Souls and many others.
Lucas Gonzalez
What is the western equivalent of youtube.com
Bentley Adams
do weeb games have jesper kyd?
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Jason Miller
Oh shit, Sup Forums is here, evacuate the thread.
Your music sucks ass.
Jordan Hughes
But other than it being good, it fits what they're talking about to a T. They basically just threw a bunch of money at a big hollywood composer, exactly what they're complaining about. It's true that they're talking about the huge budget AAA modern game industry, but they're also making a broad statement and comparing it to their own one example.
Compared to what?
Michael Cruz
You like movies not videogames,find a new hobby.
Jaxon Cox
>Even those the west rapes japshit (((music))) harder than an underage schoolgirl
When you make such a bold claim you should post an example..
Grayson Davis
>End of YoRHa version starts with 8-bit version, cycles through 3 different vocal versions and ends with a powerful chorus
Noah Lewis
Sounds like fucking Nightwish diarrhea
Leo Howard
*blocks ur path*
Ian Lee
Western composers are nothing but Hans Zimmer wannabes.
Xavier Hughes
Why doesn't Nier have a good soundtrack?
Michael Myers
Heh, we all have different tastes... Yes he has done other good things.
Jace Turner
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Cooper Jackson
Eargrating noise, both Prey and D44M are shit tier.
James Murphy
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The whole soundtrack is fukin amazing.
Caleb Carter
Yes. You can shit on Undertae for its fanbase and because it bet Mario that one year, but the soundtrack is S-rank.
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Ryan Lopez
Because it wasn't an OST trying to copy hollywood but tried to be slavshit music.
Owen Reed
There is almost no room for innovation anymore unless trying to be really experimental, and that would most certainly not work as a videogame soundtrack.
Biggest problem is that the west wants huge orchestra with no memorable hint of a melody ever in almost every AAA game, thus it all sounds the same.
Nintendos composers access a much wider variety of genres and instrumentation for example.
Ryan Kelly
Fucking hell, I'm so over soundtracks that all sound the same. I wish developers would stop using synths and go for more variety with instruments.
Jayden Rogers
Cameron Rivera
Sound shit compared to a game nearly decade before it
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But then again the Ultima series always have a godly soundtrack that the jap always try to emulate.
Ironic since most of the japshit games in this thread are cinematic heavy games.
>you should post an example
I did :^)
Not an argument.
Xavier Ramirez
Western games generally try to emulate Hollywood, and Hollywood is fucking awful, so the music ends up fucking awful. It's really that simple.
Good god I'm so glad Hollywood is shrivelling up and dying. It's a festering sore on all forms of entertainment media, it can't be gone soon enough.
Angel Rivera
>Compared to what?
I don't know. It simply sounds like a generic track you can hear in any fantasy game under the sun.
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Carson Adams
Because majority of Westerners have shit taste.
>durr, give me more of this "epic" hollywood orchestra music
Carter Price
And Hans Zimmer is not someone you want to copy. How he got so successful is beyond my understanding.
Easton Perez
Are you trying to cause a worldwide shortage of question marks
Blake Nelson
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Kayden Hill
Yeah capeshit franchises taking over is so much better.
Caleb Allen
Many japanese composers entered the industry because they liked videogame music,i have a feeling that non-indie western videogame composers are people who wanted to compose music for movies but couldn't find a job.
Jordan Bailey
Divinity 2 has been out for nearly 8 years famalam
Logan Thomas
>cinematic heavy games.
>only games mentioned are Monster Hunter and Nier:Automata and Bloodborne
>either of the Cinematic heavy
If you bait you gotta do it right.
Robert Reed
Is this a recommendation thread or something? Cause if that's the case, here's some from this generation that try to be out of the norm. Shantae and Shovel Knight got pretty enjoyable OSTs.
It really starts to get groovy by 1:36
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Plus stuff like Tropical Freeze, both Hotline Miami's, etc.
Carter Gutierrez
/thread
Isaac Martinez
I wish soundtracks were more varied, was hyped as fuck when that tribal techno shit started playing when fighting Adam. Was a good break from all orchestra stuff.
Benjamin Morales
You're retarded.
Anthony Richardson
Capeshit is a fad that's already fading. Blockbuster movies in general are dying in term of revenue, Capeshit is one of the last holdouts in that regards.
Once all the plebs are tired of capeshit, Hollywood will finally end.
Christian Carter
>Tekken music
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Gavin Reyes
Everything is shit. This is the true Sup Forumsideo game philosophy
Mason Jackson
You know what I hate? Every movie and western game these days so the same synth soundtrack that has no personality and doesn't do anything new.
Meanwhile you have the amusement park level in Nier Automata and its this fantastic track.
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Bentley Lee
If it's not finished, it's not out
Grayson Rivera
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It's a good thing western games can't have this. QTE boss fights don't deserve soundtracks like this.
Ryan Butler
Not really helping your argument there. You can't just say "it sounds like everything else" without providing any examples of what it sounds like. Or are you trying to say that because it's an orchestral track that it's generic? In which case I could say fair enough, I guess; I'm not too fond of orchestral stuff either but for some reason BG is an exception. My point is that it's a very memorable track that conveys the atmosphere of the game perfectly, at least to me.
Ethan Wilson
This really sounds like something Iwasaki Taku made, not Keiichi Okabe
Jose Hughes
I think the soundtrack for journey won a Grammy. I also enjoyed it
Jackson Harris
i was reduced to a sobbing mass ;(
Christopher Hill
Videogame music blows, I don't even go to Sup Forums
Colton Miller
This.