Final Fantasy VII

>Gets Vincent Valentine's father killed
>Falls in love with Vincent Valentine
>Watches Vincent Valentine killed by Professor Hojo
>Fucks ugly ass Professor Hojo who killed Vincent and carries his child
>Fucks off to a cave and freezes herself

What the fuck was wrong with Lucretia Crecent? What the fuck was she even thinking fucking that ugly ass professor?

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I like how Sephiroth clearly has her hair.

Hojo raped Lucretia. He RAPED her.

>ugly ass Professor Hojo

Nope, go watch those cutscenes again

In game he looks ugly.
Crisis Core Art makes him look more Bi-Shonen.

>Hot woman fucks middle-aged Japanese salaryman

No, she willingly agreed and that makes it worse. She even agreed to have her child experimented on, and then fucked with Vincent's body and turned his life into a living hell.

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Man, I don't understand why Vincent couldn't find a better girl than Lucrecia. She was literally the definition of a girl who only wrecks your life

>Hate on Hojo
Well did nothing wrong blame it on that bitch, she actually agree that dude can do whatever the fuck he want with Seph then when he did she bitch about it, same shit with Vincent's body.

Basically, she did everything wrong for an absolute retard reason, she love Vincent but felt so guilt about his dad that she went full retard with her life. Literally the most brain dead of FF7.

that fucking forehead

Well, Vincent and Lucrecia a born cuck and masochism. In a way, they are quit a match in term of mentally retard.

Wait I thought Vincent fucked Lucrecia and got her pregnant, resulting in Sephiroth being the fucked up child of the two after Hojo fucked with her child inside the womb

She is some guilt filled bitch or something, Dirge of Cerberus doesn't really give a reasonable explanation for why she stuck with Hojo.

She is just "I'm sorry Vincent, I'm so sorry, I don't deserve your feelings" and just jumps to Hojo's side, I think Nomura tried to make her reasoning be she thought of herself as just bad as Hojo so they should be together or something, it really isn't clear.

What is cleat is that abomination of a game tried to give Vincent a new love interest in the form of a 18 years old girl that looks even younger than Yuffie, and that's awesome.

>Nomura
You mean Nojima? But even then I don't think either are credited for the DoC story.

He didn't even hold hands with Lucretia my dude, Vincent mostly kept watching her from afar, she caught on to his feelings but felt she was a terrible person for being partially responsible for his father's death and turning Vincent into a lab rat, so Lucretia thought she should suck Hojo's evil dick because her evil vagina didn't deserve Vincent; at least that's what DoG's shitty writing tries explain.

>I think Nomura tried to
Nomura is an artist. He is not a writer or a game designer. You insufferable fucking child (who's probably 20+ by now but still).

Nomura is the beltanzippor artist. That's it. He doesn't do anything else. He's been a KH spokesperson for a while, but even that is in the past.

You're even worse off than he is mate.

I will never not be infuriated by how bad the writing here was. The only thing they had to do was make Lucrecia into Vincent's lover, make it so she get knocked up by him, and have Hojo fucked with the baby so it turns into Vincent getting pissed off as shit that his child was the one being screwed over.

But that requires too much fucking over with the original plot of FFVII

Didn't he like rise to producing FF nowadays or something? Like Akira Yamaoka became the SH series producer. Well, what's left of it.

He's become a bit of a bigwig, but he's not directly responsible for anything in the games besides character artwork, and these days not even that.

Stop posting and go do your research.

He's my favourite FF character, he had a hard life ;-;

Is Vincent or Hojo the baby-daddy?

>Director of several games
>Specifically known for designing combat systems
>Nothing to do with game design
wew

Hojo.

Yes, let's, you fuckign douche. Let's see what role Nomura played in DoC as thought. Oops, he didn't play any role at fucking all.

But wait, this shitter thinks Nomura produced Final Fantasy these days. Let's see about XV. Oh wait, Nomura had fuck-all to do with it. Wait, maybe that's too modern. let's see about XIII. Oops, he did fuck-all for it too outside of, you guessed it, character art.

But what IS he doing? Ah, he's directing FFVIIR. Except that's been outsourced and is being transferred back to Squeenix as we speak, as the news have broken out today. Which means he's not been directing shit and as of now a new team is likely going to manage the game. Even for FFVIIR, he seems to be doing about as much as he did for vsXIII, i.e. drive the project into the ground and then step aside completely as the game is resqued.

Looks like you're all imbeciles. Too bad, cunts. Go jerk it to Donald Duck wearing a few dozen belts.

Yeah, no.

Common sense and basic storywriting skills will tell you Vincent.
Canon will tell you Hojo.

Iirc she was obsessed with her research and willing to do anything for it

Picture.

lol

>Yeah, no.
Shit, all the Kingdom Hearts games have suddenly ceased to exist, I guess he really is just an artist.

Kingdom Hearts shit has nothing to do with Dirge of Cerberus (see the original buttsniffer at to whom I initially replied) or Final Fantasy in general. And Kingdom Hearts has been dead for years.

Just pretend Hobo is a compulsive liar, Vincent's memory is shit, the compilation never happened, and the subtext that Vincent is the real dad is accurate.

he actually has a mix of both their hairstyles combined.

anyways, she's an awful person that you only sympathize with because Vincent does, the entirety of FF7's bad shit happens because of her and Hojo, and at least Hojo makes absolutely no aspirations of having morals.

I personally have that one Hentai with her fucking Hojo and then literally everyone else in the building but vincent as canon, she's a fucking evil scientist AND a cum dump that quivers at the thought of having loads dropped into her.

Hojo also had bitches clinging to him at Costa Del Sol. Somehow that hunchbacked shithead is a ladies man

You are so caught up on what one guy said that you're not noticing that you're saying nonsense. The guy's game got shitcanned, but he was still directing a major Final Fantasy game. He's still directed like a dozen titles. To say he just does art is ridiculous. He's shit at his job, but his job is far more than character art.

>What the fuck was wrong with Lucretia Crecent?
The person who wrote the story and had to shoehorn some catalyst for some events even if it made zero sense.

I suggest you stop trying to make sense of poor written, overcomplicated plots with retconned plotholes.

He probably has a really long sword, just like his son.

>You are so caught up on what one guy said
>The guy's game got shitcanned, but he was still directing a major Final Fantasy game.
Nomura was directing a side story that got canned. The moment they decided to make vsXIII a major game, Nomura was pushed off the project completely. His job IS more than art, but it has nothing to do with anything written in any Final Fantasy game, unlike what that cunflap thinks.

Shelke looks like 14 though even better

see the thing about women is, if the guy is charismatic, has a big dick, is forceful and can fuck the living hell out of a bitch, and that shit spreads by word of mouth he'll be so swarmed by pussy he'll have to fight it off.

it won't even matter if he's somewhat ugly.

>he was still directing a major Final Fantasy game
Nomura never directing FF game, he mostly came up with the concept art, core/side story, core game play/mini game of some FF but never direct one. FF 7R is the first FF game he ever direct, mate.

Anyways, that one user that claim he only work as artist is full of shit, he direct/produce KH series.

>His job IS more than art, but it has nothing to do with anything written in any Final Fantasy game.
Well, he came up with the story of Shadow in FF6, Setzer in V and together with Kitase and Nojima write the story for original FF VII with Gooch as the one who check it.

Your sister's asshole was full of shit when I fucked her last time, bruh. We're talking about Final Fantasy here, not Kingdom Hearts. The guy was discussing what Nomura did and didn't write in Dirge of fucking Cerberus, which was what got me to reply.

>it has nothing to do with anything written in any Final Fantasy game
A good chunk of XV is based on his pitch still.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Nomura#Works

What could this mean?

Not really, no.

Never directed a released Final Fantasy game, never did anything for a Final Fantasy game besides character artwork, that's what.

jesus christ

>no matter how bleak things look for you
>you will never be NTR'd so hard that a giant meteor hits the earth as a direct result of it

Read your own fucking list.

>girl who only wrecks your life
That's one of the main themes of FF7.

Read your own fucking post. Then read the fucking list :^)

So tell me, is Vincent Valentine a cuckold?

Cloud wrecked his own life trying to impress her, there's a bit of a difference.

I'm glad you didn't write it, because that would have been worse. I respect this Lucretia more than the one you just came up with.

And she fucked up it even more by hiding the truth even when he directly asks about who is Zack.

SAVAGE

>respecting a slut and a whore who fucked over vincent because "muh dead boss" and fucked the ugliest man on the block

wew

Yeah but she was afraid of Cloud's fragile mind shattering, but sooner or later it happened anyways so her efforts were for naught.

he's worse, a cuck at one time fucked that women.

Vincent never even such much as tweaked her fucking earlobe.

Cloud probably would have gone bonjers either way to be honest. It was a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation for Tifa.

He wrecked his life but now he's a one manlet army who not only fucks her nightly, but damn near made her a cuckquean until the other girl DIED.

those doujins were hot

>We're talking about Final Fantasy here, not Kingdom Hearts
Yup, and that's what I'm talking about.

At least the decision to experiment on baby sephy was a mutual scientific pursuit between both parents, and she never cheated on Vincent or left him because they were never actually in a relationship.
Instead of your even bigger slut and whore who reciprocates Vincent's feelings, has a kid with him, and then takes that kid straight to Hojo and gives Vincent the worst backstabbing in history.

>this girl also blatantly lies to him.

its really sad, FF7 is a game about a bunch of people torturing a mentally broken, physically tortured young man.

Man, Advent Children gave her a really nice rack, didn't it?
>busty, but not so big that they'll sag when out of a bra.

Nomura must be a titty connoisseur

>blatantly lies
Actually, she's the only one that endeavored to tell the truth once she started realizing Cloud was off because she was confident he'd overcome it.

Tifa knew the whole time and explicitly tried to hide it.

What are the differences in characterization between classic Aerith and Nu Aerith?

Uhh, decided to experiment on your kid then shift the blame to your hubby and act like you're innocent is kind of shit, user. Like she blame everything to Hojo whether it's about Seph or Vincent when it's actually Lucrecia herself that fucked them up not Hojo, dude simply do his thing.

How can all this shit being respectable is beyond me.

Well, a playful cunning lying bitch that you kinda love and a boring stonk pure waifu.

Unlike Tifa, Aeris didn't know until days before she died.

She just started figuring out Cloud wasn't himself, and was the first to try and ease him into realizing it himself.

She didn't try to hide anything outside of that one time Cloud was cracking up at the thought of the planet being meteor'd and just snapped back into his own consciousness, and that was more to try and keep him from losing it at the worst possible moment than trying to maintain a comfort zone or anything.

So 3D vs 2D women?

For all she knew he could have been Zack, what with all the magic and shit. Maybe a body swap or polymorph or something.

>nomura has nothing to do with all the bad games in the series
really makes me think

Or he just died his hair and assumed a new name.

They look quite different

Can someone explain to me again what Aerith did that was wrong? I haven't touched the game in ages.

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Bigger backstabbing whore, yes.

However, it makes the overall story much more cohesive and makes you hate characters for the right reasons.

And the game will never come out if dude is involve, he's too much of a perfectionist that make the work never progress, it's a pain in the ass to work with this guy.

If you think about it it must have been just as painful for Tifa to have to lie to Cloud over and over just because she knew she might accidentally break him if she told him everything too quickly.
Cloud's female friends are nowhere near as evil as Lucretia.

>Can someone explain to me again what Aerith did that was wrong?
Nothing.

Cloud thought that he was her dead boyfriend but she didn't say anything about it. Then, when she finally decides that he can handle the truth (the date on the Gold Saucer shows this), she got shanked by Jenova/Sephiroth. I don't think she did anything wrong, personally.

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She went off alone and got herself killed like a stupid bitch.

Their faces are pretty similar (that's just Nomura, but still.)

Why does Zack look more like a SaGa character than a zFF character

Funny enough, canonically, they literally never love each other, it's all about science and DoC kind of fucked shit up even more by making Lucrecia love Vincent instead of Hojo like in the original, actually the whole DoC plot make her a mentally retard bitch.

The Dick wants what it wants.

That was Nomura's style back then and since it was a pretty rushed sketch right at the end of development he probably didn't care about catering to the anime aesthetic as much

Well, 90s shonen anime aesthetic since he always drew pretty anime

While Vincent is the much better storyline / lore option, canon is Hojo (which is boring and slightly nonsensical).

Hojo experimenting on his own child and leading him on about his false heritage was better imo.

>Ankle bracelet

Doesn't that mean that someone is in a cuckolding relationship?

I've seen little girls wearing anklets so I hope not.

>SquareEnix giving the new characters all retarded anime names and adding retarded cliche names to existing characters like Lucretia's dumbass last name that didn't exist until the EU
I cannot fathom how much of a train wreck the Remake is going to be

Unrequited love is fucking awful.

Tifa did everything right when it came to Cloud.