Fire Emblem Echoes

Discuss tactics, tips, and waifus

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I want to defang Delthea.

When will the honeymoon phase end? This game was a massive disappointment.

>EASY PICKINGS EASY PICKINGS EASY PICKINGS EASY PICKINGS EASY PICKINGS EASY PICKINGS

Rude
I like it more than fates senpai

>discuss waifus

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Female mages squatting is just too good.

Any reason not to upgrade iron weapons to silver/killer versions?

Does she say that in bed too?

Reminder Echoes is piss easy and if you grind at all, you're bad. The entire game including postgame dungeon can be beaten on Hard with 0 grind and 0 DLC.

How do I make Clair good? Is she doomed to be a bad unit?

no sorry

>Does she say that in bed too?

She can fuck for weeks.

How bad are her stats in your playthrough?
She seems to be doing fine in mine.

*blocks your path*

>kills slayde

Why the fuck do I enjoy grinding in this game so much? It's not hard, I can do the maps easily, but I just enjoy the feeling of crushing enemies hard.

>B: Er, you're headed back to the island, right?
>M: Yeah.
>B: Then that's where I'm going as well.
>M: Huh? Wait, what's that mean?
>B: Are you really such a dope that you can't figure it out?
>M: WAAAAAT?
:3 :3 :3

>Reminder Echoes is piss easy
>beaten on hard

Where's classic and lunatic at? I bet you are the type of fag that uses turnwheel.

From top to bottom
Currently still a Level 10 Pegasus Knight
ATK 11
SKILL 11
SPD 14
LUCK 15
DEF 5
RES 8
MOV 7

you're casual as fuck and dislike challenge

>:3

Should see their ending log.

literally gives birth to a dozen children. Booey must be a shriveled raisin.

>waifus
Okay

DeltheaxMe > MaexBoey > ClairxAlm > TatianaxZeke> FayexAlm > Sonya x Genny >CelicaxAlm > MathildaxClive > ClairxClive > ClairxGrey

Turnwheel is legitimately a good addition to the game that saves a lot of frustration. The only thing that needs to be changed is significantly decrease the number of uses, like 2-4 per map.

Who here actually bought the season pass DLC?

Or at least the level up DLC?

>a good addition
>mfw I know a man who refuses to play echoes because of that
>he refused to play TO:LUCT as well

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It should have one use. I'm fucking awful at this game but if you're using the turnwheel five times you may as well just soft reset

I like it more than I thought I would since I've only ever used it to reset player phases.
Its like quicksaving as a mechanic

Reminder

>cuts off the end of her LET'S GO

You tried.

I give it another week. It IS a disappointment but a fun one I guess.

Maps with witches are the entire reason for the turnwheel. If two of them decide to warp right next to a nigga with no RES, he's basically fucked, and it can happen on Turn 1.

What are they saying?

>am I just next on the list?

Still angry.

Is any of the DLC worth it?

It's ironic that Fates did Witches better than Gaiden, a game that created Witches, and Echoes, a game that came after it.

In Fates, Witches behaved intelligently, targetting your weakest guys, but they could only warp to allies. This meant you had to be extra careful with enemies, because even one enemy in range meant a dozen witches could warp in and fuck you over.

In Echoes, Witches can warp anywhere so there's literally no counterplay against them, and in order to balance it they made Witch AI completely random and retarded as fuck.

literally me

How did she manage to end up being best girl so easily, guys?

But Jesse is best girl.

>In Fates, Witches behaved intelligently, targetting your weakest guys, but they could only warp to allies. This meant you had to be extra careful with enemies, because even one enemy in range meant a dozen witches could warp in and fuck you over.
Yeah and it was only in one DLC so it doesn't even count.

I like the stories where the dogged nice guy wins the girl over by never giving up on her. I know it's trashy and unrealistic, but I can't help but feel great for the guy.

You did it Grey, good for you.

Yea. A few other weird issues exist for all mage units I see.
Good personality, tough unit, pretty, good voice acting, etc.

>Berkut's temper tantrum after Alm power of friendships the hands away

Fuck off. I like Grey but he doesn't deserve Clair. Clair needs best boy.

I'm not in the game, Anonymous.

Fates had more thought put into a single DLC than Echoes did the entire game.

That should tell you how much of a shit IS gave about Echoes.

I didn't hate FE2 but it was one of my least favourite FE games. Should I bother playing the remake or should I just play something else?

They wanted the game to be a good but faithful remake rather than the garbage that was SD/NM.

>Who here actually bought the season pass DLC?

I did. Didn't bother touching it on my first play through until i explored Thabes. Got to floor 10 and died to 3 of those fucking zombies getting crits on alm. So instead of spending an entire day trying to get there again. I just went ahead and started experiencing the DLC. Was really drawn to the overclasses and I don't feel like griding exotic spices for gold either which is why I got the season pass.

Didn't bother using mila's blessing either until after thabes as well. Though on my next playthrough i might use those maps and blessing as soon i can.

I'm having trouble deciding when to promote. After a half-dozen games of settling for nothing less than 20, I'm stuck with soldiers and villagers who are godawful, and make grinding XP a terrible idea.

It's because he's black, isn't it?

Berkut and Fernand just exist to get shit on, and I love them for it.

>Fates had more thought
nigga did you even pay attention to the story

You're supposed to promote asap unless you plan to devote a ton of time to grinding.

He's not black and he's best villager (outside of Faye of course).
He just isn't for Clair.

Don't bother. It's a disappointment but if you hungry for Fire Emblem, you could and have some fun for a few hours.

Kliff is best villager, it's not even close.

Atlas is also better than Gray but he's Celica so whatever.

It fixes pretty much everything wrong with Gaiden EXCEPT for the maps.

Considering that many people still adore FE4 to this day, and Echoes has almost the exact same strengths and weaknesses (good story, shit maps), I don't really see it happeneing.

>story is more important than gameplay
whew lad

also I ironically enjoyed Fates story more than Echoes

>You tried.

I ain't no professional sound recorder. Also if someone really gives a shit they can fix it and upload it themselves. I don't give a fuck.

>Is any of the DLC worth it?

It all depends on (YOU). You want to help some units out with gear/exp, want to experience overclasses, want to experience or give a damn about the DLC characters. Whatever that is a yes then that is something considering investing money into.

Sadly unlike Awakening we wont be seeing free paralogues and other dlc content.

Probably that.

>Faye

I made her into a pegasus knight and have regretted it ever since. She's the only character I've seriously considered benching.

I probably should do that, then. Grinding is not worth the headache, as much as it feels wrong to promote early

I'm saying the story is so fucking bad that they clearly didn't think about anything in the game at all.

Honestly, you're right. Kliff becomes the best because he's actually a complete bro as you talk to him late game. He's actually happy to travel with you around the world.
There's a villager fork or something. Lets you reclass her.
You have to reclass them immediately. It's not us just saying it to make you lose 1 or 2 points. You lose nothing.

more thought went into designing Conquest chpt.10 than all of Echoes maps combined

Why cant Faye be Mercenary and kill for Alm?

She's Alm's only Peg rider. All she needs is some attack form the attack fountains and she'll be good.

so I'm at chapter 3 when you can control both groups, and I have to ask, does Alm get better?

he's incredibly middling compared to Celica who can do it all, seriously what the fuck? also beyond Kliff Celica gets better units!

Yeah because Echoes maps were designed in 1992, before they knew what the fuck they were doing.

More importantly, why is she an Archer in Heroes when she can't be one in Echoes?

Because they told the Heroes people that she was a villager (but didn't tell them that female villagers have different class options) so they made her an archer.

Is there any reason not to use the villager forks to reclass all my dudes into dread fighter? Dread fighter is so much better than any other class holy shit

In chapter 4, when you get to the hidden village with Celica, midway to tower, you gain the ability to promote Alm to hero.

Have you been giving him all the fountains like you should?

Say hello to Genny's husband.

She doesn't deserve Grey. She's a stuck up bitch who only slightly settled for Grey after the unrealistic expectations to get Alm fell through.

>have to artifically pump a character to make him even close to the shadow of the other main character.

insane, the fact Celica is essentially a Merc with healing and magic and holy magic is stupid.

its a stupid thing that can't be compensated with pure stats, especially on hard, Alm ain't ever gonna heal someone.

the reason is the game is piss-easy to beat and there's no reason to fork your units and grind them back up

She's far better than Grey.
Why are you bastards so luckky? Celica sucks horse cock in my game.
>levels up
>+1 attack
>soft reset
>levels up
>+1 attack

>people keep saying mage kliff is supposed to be good
>mine is fucking garbage and luthier is outperforming him

this magnificent bastard... almost literally the Han Solo of the game.

>luthier is outperforming him
fucking HOW. My Luthier is worse than fucking Boey.

This. He's awesome.

your supposed to make him a Merc and go against the grain the game sets out for you.

he ends up with such high crit rate that he's essentially an Assasin with Merc stats.

he literally becomes Raiden.

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The truth about this game is, because of how promotion works, every unit is fully at the mercy of the RNG, particularly the ones you get really early.

Especially Alm. If your Alm doesn't get good Speed and Defense levelups not even the Royal Sword/Falchion will be able to carry him.

Celica tied with Delthea had the highest att of all my units, at 30 by endgame. With ragnarok and Brave sword, she murdered almost all the bosses on her side

>the story is now more important than the gameplay

Any info about the new classes? Any worth getting?

I gave Celica all her fountains too. Alm still turned out better.
With the way promotions gains work, it made no sense to give them to anyone who isn't a t3 or a lord

>not giving her that Beloved Zofia

Unless you want to grind more, not really. The only ones that gets anything even worthwhile are Alm (Bow Rang +1 which is okay) Pegaponys who get Fire.

Echoes map were designed back in the 90s. They did not change them because they wanted to be faithful to the original game, they knew they were shit but kept it like since they were going for a faithful remake.

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>My Kliff became the single strongest unit in the game for me as a Merc-Dread Fighter

YEA CUT IT WIDDDE OPEN.

*crits you*

t.cuck

>>not giving her that Beloved Zofia
>not constantly switching between weapons to use what is most useful in any given situation with the lords

Celica gets a super spell and mages get so Invoke Terrors (which isn't useful but is fun)

It's retarded how much better Celica's army is compared to Alm's

Alm
>rebel army fighting for Zofian liberation, later invading Rigel
>just about everyone sucks except for Alm, a couple of his villager bros, Lukas, and Clair.
Cecilia
>random people she picks up along the way on her pilgrimage
>some of the biggest forces of destruction in the entire game