I've revised my idea for the perfect Smash game
>Melee HD
>Online play (For Fun, For Fun 1v1, For Glory, and For Glory Doubles)
>No mechanics removed
>Low tiers, especially Kirby and Bowser, get buffs, GW gets L-cancelling and a proper shield, Kirby gets working throws, top-tiers unchanged except Ice Climbers, who lose wobbling
>5 new characters, all of them originally meant to be in the game (Lucas, Snake, Sonic, Wario and Toad, unlocked by getting a perfect score in the credits game
>Unlock requirements lessened, most characters and stages unlocked from the start
>Omega stages and alpha (or whatever the fuck greek letter) stages, which are in the shape of Battlefield
>Music selection like Brawl and 4
>For Glory includes FD, Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, FoD, Pokemon Stadium, and Dream Land, not just omega stages
>two new stages, Archanea/Castle Siege and Pokefloats 2
Discuss
I've revised my idea for the perfect Smash game
Oh and Battlefield gets real ledges
>no mechanics removed
>removing wobbling
>keeping wavecheating
fucking ruined, never make a game
>all of them originally meant to be in the game
>Toad
Also wasn't Lucas originally meant to replace Ness?
Wavedashing is just a slide and is as easy as hitting two buttons really fast
Wobbling is a fucking infinite combo from a grab
and?
at least wobbling takes skill.
this motherfucker did not play games from the nes or snes
the motherfucking pamphlet for the god damn melee game talked about it
I put in Toad because it was a funny rumor
It would be legendary if he appeared, he'd probably be a Peach clone though with mostly similar moves but different physics and mechanics
Also yes, but not anymore
He's not being serious you dip
>Le jank BF xD
How to spot a docukid.
Wavedashing won't automatically make you win
You can still be trash and know how to wavedash
It's literally
Just
A slide
...you cannot seriously say battlefield ledges arent trash user.
Maybe, but surely there's other choices? Also:
>Toad
>Peach clone
Outside of the down-B, how would that even begin to work?
protip: you can't get "battlefielded" if you stop holding down before your recovery ends
outside of that, any angle where you ride the battlefield lip and don't grab the ledge would be the same result on any other stage
it ruins the game and is cheating
>nerf Snake in PM
voila, perfect Smash game
yep dumbing down mechanics makes a game better
>removing wobbling and not changing the other high tiers
Literally your idea is idiotic.
>cheating
I don't even wavedash much. Mastering L cancels and shorthops and shield drops is far more devastating than sliding around like an autist.
Toad can also take the forward smash and just replace the frying pan, he's appeared in most spinoffs
B would be funny if he just took out another toad
Other than that a lot of Peach's moves are generic and able to be copied
Instead of a floater he would have to be a fast faller
Replace up-b with magic carpet, maybe let him attack while on it but it lasts for less time than a float and mskes him helpless after
>Switch adds input lag
>Samurai removes washdashing & L canceling, nerfs Fox
>Pro's don't want it
>Casuals go back to Smash 4
GG
>outside of that, any angle where you ride the battlefield lip and don't grab the ledge would be the same result on any other stage
except that's literally not true, u can wallride on fd but you can't wallride on bf unless you actually angle away from the stage which is way harder
u obviously don't play spacies unless ur trash maybe
Melee is a shit game and the autistic community refuses to let go of their childhood like the manchildren they are.
this
i don't even use wavedashes as peach except for edge guarding
Brawl and Trash 4 are shit that's ALREADY dead, while Melee, 64, and PM are still alive after many years
wallriding isn't the same thing, i was referring to the straight in angle where people complain about being battlefielded
obviously you can't wall ride on battlefield because... there's no wall? are you retarded?
i've played competitively longer than you've had pubes, cunt. there is a ton of informative smashboards posts about what people call "battlefielding" proving it's just confirmation bias and doesn't exist. not that doc kiddies know what smashboards is, but it's there if you want it.
excuse me
melee came out when i was 14
I grew up with a nes and snes
NO nintendo game has that much replayability and depth since TP came out
fucking cash cow for nintendo scumbag
>perfect smash game
>broken shitfest but in HD with a third of the roster of the new games
lmfao, WOW.
Yeah Melee is broken, not like Smash 4 where everyone lives forever and comebacks are impossible
git gud
Sorry, I don't feel like learning a shitty game with no combos and no hype
How does Dolphin not have input lag, and why don't they just do that?
And I'm talking about a hypothetical perfect gane where he doesn't remove mechanics
And I'm pretty sure he said wavedashing was intentional in Melee once
Mm me bitch, where u at
you cant get good at a game that is designed to have a lower skill ceiling then another game that is not limited like tr4sh is
Wasn't Leif going to originally be in the game over Roy?
Also give Roy some hitboxes
wavedashing is good for microspacing as peach too
Yes and they chose Roy instead because he has t3h ph1r3.
Poor Leaf. He had a hard life.
I'd take the Lord with enough stamina to take on Thracia any day over the pussy bitch unpromoted deadweight generic harem anime mc
europe
Forget about fixing Melee, how do we fix Roy in FE6? I think the FE6 remake needs to give him a useful support skill like charisma.
Promote earlier
Better growths
wobbling is broken. infinites are broken.
nobody in melee is truly op, even fox. fox is actually the hardest character to play as so it balances itself
Are you talking about Snake in 3.02, because he didn't need it, and that would've been the best Smash game
>melee HD
stopped reading there
even if it were ever going to happen it would never be accepted since theyd probably fix all the glitches from the original for one
If Melee HDickcheese were to be made, that at least confirms some GC adapter...again. They should just work off the PAL game, remove broken ass or unfair techniques, gimp wavedashing a bit. And add in character appearing intros that this game lacked.
The remake should be a game encompassing both FE7 and FE6, with the option to determine Roy's heritage and stats depending on which girl the player pairs Eliwood with.
On the contrary, I'm sure that if Melee ever shows up on the Switch, it'll be a 1:1 direct port of the Gamecube version without any enhancements beyond what the Virtual Console usually offers. They're not going to redo Melee on its own merits; it'll be just the first of a bunch of Gamecube games tooled to run on newer hardware in an emulation environment.
Can we also make Roy into Smash 4 Roy?
Smash 4 Roy would be fucking amazing in Melee
you mean PM Roy right
>gimp wavedashing a bit
literally why
>gimp wavedashing
holy crap it's just a fucking slide performed by pressing 2 buttons really fast not some game-breaking super technique only pros know
Because it won't be the meta game by airdodging into the fucking ground all the time. Dash dancing is cool as fuck though. Also add more costumes.
Wavedashing doesn't define the meta more than any other tech skill, people don't use it willy nilly, they use it for specific things especially with characters with shorter ones like Peach
Repeat after me
Wavedashing is just a slide
What if we take PM Roy, and give him the best aspects of Smash 4 Roy too?
Smash 4 Roy is pretty rad, probably the most fun character in that shitty game
Bayo is also pretty fun but absolutely busted
what's good about sm4sh roy I don't play the game
can we add PM Snake, Wolf , Donkey Kong and 3.5 Bowser to melee HD also
Wavedashing was intentional, or they at least knew about it, look it up
They just knew about it. L-canceling was the intentional one.
I've revised my idea for the perfect Smash game
>Melee HD
>wobbling takes skill
you mean tapping A or the setups, because you are on the cusp of being a potato
What's the point of L-canceling?
If all it does is remove landing lag, Is there any moment where you should'nt L-cancel? IF you always have to do it, there is no strategy behind it. It feels like arbitrary busy work that doesn't really add anything.
There's a couple absurdly rare situations where the hitbox distortion from landing allows you to dodge an attack but generally no, it's just a way of increasing the mechanical demand on the player
you're right in that there's no reason not to l-cancel unless you're a character with an alternative mixup option (falco bair shine, marth nair) or have a strictly better option (peach float cancels)
really it's good have as it keeps everyone from just playing Fox and it does is lead to cases of "you tried to l-cancel but got hit so now you can't tech"
best game ever!
>Melee HD
>Online play (For Fun, For Fun 1v1, For Glory, and For Glory Doubles)
>No mechanics removed
>Low tiers, especially Kirby and Bowser, get buffs, GW gets L-cancelling and a proper shield, Kirby gets working throws, top-tiers unchanged except Ice Climbers, who lose wobbling
>5 new characters, all of them originally meant to be in the game (Lucas, Snake, Sonic, Wario and Toad, unlocked by getting a perfect score in the credits game
>Unlock requirements lessened, most characters and stages unlocked from the start
>Omega stages and alpha (or whatever the fuck greek letter) stages, which are in the shape of Battlefield
>Music selection like Brawl and 4
>For Glory includes FD, Battlefield, Yoshi's Story, FoD, Pokemon Stadium, and Dream Land, not just omega stages
>two new stages, Archanea/Castle Siege and Pokefloats 2
Meleefags would still bitch.
Not 3.5 bowser hes just dash attack the character you wants Odds Bowser build.
>lose wobbling
do you understand how shit ice climbers would be without wobbling?
>Fox being hard to use is the balance itself
Okay, but what if someone actually masters him dipshit?
>but what if someone actually masters him dipshit?
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