Final Fantasy XV is the most disappointing game I have ever played. Holy fuck I still feel so empty inside. It's been six months and the pain of what could have been still haunts me. Goddammit
Why in the fuck did Tabata change the game? Just why. What could have been the most interesting and darkest FF game got turned into a forgettable, unfinished mess of disappointment
>What was suppose to be Noctis vs Stella got reduced to this
Kevin Smith
>TFW liked XIII more than XV
Matthew Parker
>the most disappointing game I have ever played Woah, save that title for Yooka-Laylee
Mason Mitchell
>Changing Regis design from badass Yakuza boss to generic old king Literally unforgivable
Wyatt Nelson
>>TFW liked XIII more than XV
I also -reasonably- like XIII but XV is legit good. Totally unique game, I think it will be remembered even more favourably.
Christopher Bell
I find it hilarious that literally everything from Nomura's E3 2013 trailer was cut. Not a single thing was put into the final game. Tabata completely wiped any influence Nomura had out. He tried to create something better than what Nomura was going for and failed miserably at it
Anthony Hall
That's not true, we still got the Leviathan fight.
Caleb Wood
>That hold a button to win generic as fuck Leviathan fight with the ''not-morrowind-theme'' song
Aaron Hall
The game is great Nomura-cuck. Your fanfic version that you've conjured up in your head is what really would have been awful. I suggest you stop being a contrarian bitch.
Liam Lopez
>Your fanfic version that you've conjured up in your head Not their fault that the game was unfinished with most story events happening offscreen which leads to lots of fan fiction regarding the game.
Isaiah Hughes
At least XIII knows what the fuck it is, with a working battle system and no product placement.
Logan Jackson
>"You feel it too, don't you?"
Jackson King
I feel like 40% of the story mode is missing.
Alexander Campbell
>product placement. What were they thinking?
Phantom Pain had good gameplay at least.
Brandon Bell
Cant wait to play it when it releases on PC. I love boybands.
Owen Wood
I like the camping aspect and how they're shilling for Coleman
It's just too comfy
Justin Morgan
I find it even more funny that once Sakaguchi left, Nomura became Square's big man. He is the idea guy (which is why he has so many fucking Creative Producer credits). Square goes to Nomura for fresh new ideas. For the life of me, I have no fucking idea why Tabata thought his idea for Final Fantasy XV was better than Nomura's. I will never understand.
Angel Perez
>Tabata directed The 3rd Birthday Well that makes a lot of sense now.
Robert Foster
nomura could have ruined it further. that faggot couldn't make a coherent story
Cooper Martin
>nomura could have ruined it further. that faggot couldn't make a coherent story
I love both KH and FF XV. user here is right, story telling is not nomura's strong point.
Isaiah Reyes
Half of the games directed by Tabata were given to him by nomura
William Jackson
Promising start, but it really shit the bed after the Leviathan fight.
Bentley Cook
I bet Tetsuya Nomura gets like 3 hours of sleep a night. Jesus Christ how in the fuck does he do it?
David Jones
Talent, something that is not present in FFXV.
Easton Peterson
So from what I gather is that if Nomura were to leave Square, then Square would be utterly fucked?
Juan Edwards
The art direction for the game was pretty good.
William Ramirez
I don't think so, but one of their main franchises would pretty much be dead. And any chance of TWEWY 2 would also die
Lincoln King
Actually you're right, monsters look great.
Cooper Perry
What a wonderful experience! Thanks Tabata!
Joshua Phillips
>A good chunk are all based on nomura's old designs
James Foster
How the fuck...?
Evan Cox
I felt more disappointed with XIII due to having high expectations from it. I only had okay to mediocre expectations for XV due to XIII, which XV for the most part reached.
Dominic Perry
I hate XV apologists. If the original KH team who made KH1 and KH2 made Versus XIII, it would have turned out so much better than XV. I know this for a fact. It would have been more RPG like, and not pretending to be full on action like XV is. All playable characters, all waaay better designed than the shit show we got, the areas would have looked nicer and more compact. I don't give a fuck if it was going to be linear. That is 100000x better than the open world we got, with invisible walls, and on rails driving sections. Everything about the combat looked better, and especially the story would have been a lot better and darker like it was originally planned. When I played XV for the first couple hours, I was tearing up because of how bad it was compared to everything Nomura planned. I saw the first trailer when I was fucking 12 and I am 22 now. It was like watching your own child grow up and slowly turn into a fucking drug addicted killer.
Jeremiah Jones
>Nomura leaves >FFXIV is still the same >DQ is still the same >Yoko Taro shit still happens sometimes >KH continues with BBS/DDD quality worlds/gameplay, but really really boring stories >FF mainline goes FULL TABATA and is fucked for life Things wouldn't change too much
Josiah Edwards
>He doesn't know about lv.1 runs
SAD!
Xavier Brown
I believe that, after all the best tracks are still the ones from when it was Versus
Parker Hernandez
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Jason Stewart
>hold down circle to attack everything >sell everything you get in Ch1 to buy 99 potions >immortal since you can pause to heal that was it
Nolan Ortiz
>falling for the open world meme
lmao at your life
Adrian King
thats what u get for playing some faggy weebshit lmao
David Robinson
What pisses me off the most is that Square had no faith in XV and basically shat it out. Threeish years of dev time and asinine partnerships with to promote they game they knew was mediocre, all while helmed by an utter hack who doesn't know how to make games. Their real golden goose is the FFVII Remake and now they're fucking it up by making it episodic.
Ayden Jackson
Seriously what happened to the OST, it was actually pretty disappointing which I wasn't expecting.
Jose Walker
>What pisses me off the most is that Square had no faith in XV Versus XIII was a such an after thought that it's amazing nomura was able to convince square from axing the game for so long
Blake Ross
>I hate XV apologists.
There's no such thing. I don't want to shock you but in the real world the game was well received.
>I bet Tetsuya Nomura gets like 3 hours of sleep a night.
I love KH and Nomura more than FF as a whole but he does the square root of nothing for most of those credits.
Ian Bailey
>Prompto straight up shoots a guy in the head at point blank range >Noctis slams a guy's head into a car >Gladio fucking powerbombs a guy
THEY WERE SO BADASS AND COOL WHY THE FUCK DID TABATA CHANGE SO MUCH
Henry Walker
Yeah it's like they knew the game was garbage, and utter shit, so they did everything in their power to advertise the game so it WOULD sell.
>I don't want to shock you but in the real world the game was well received. Because it was advertised more than fast food.
Gabriel Garcia
>Lowest scoring mainline Final Fantasy >Well received The damage control is palpable.
Mason Murphy
Simple. Yoko was working on KH 0.2/3. Also she's an old talent. She would never put up with Tabata's no vision bullshit. Can't write good music if there's no characters or story and everything is constantly being scrapped/rewritten
Notice the music for demon tide in 0.2 was great, which came out after XV
Dominic Watson
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Liam Long
>Let's make open world game even though we never do it before >Fail miserably They should make big map like FFXII.
Justin Parker
Where the hell is Playable character: Cindy
Andrew Morales
You think he convinced them? My guess is that they needed a FFXV and Versus had been on the backburner that they decided to use that. They knew fans would be hyped as fuck for it coming back, and they could fuck it up as much as they wanted so it would still sell.
Jason Walker
>new stat-changing magic the fact that Tabata was probably the one to pitch this shows how fucking stupid he is
Robert Cooper
>TFW Noctis and Ardyn are the only characters to get themes Can't believe they allowed a Final Fantasy to be released where each of the main cast doesn't get their own respective theme.
James Williams
This survey further proved to me that Tabata and Square had and still have no fucking idea what they wanted Final Fantasy XV to be. This is beyond pathetic
Grayson Martin
Luna and Cindy have themes. Luna I understand, Cindy, not so much. This is like the 3rd one and there's a 4th one currently up on the JP website.
Nathan Hughes
>group attacks, something Nomura claimed would not be part of the combat, ended up being in the combat
Matthew Garcia
I remember reading that after XIII came out and the versus went back to pre-production on the game, they had to come up with a small demo in couple of months that showed the game was still being worked on and that development should continue. There was another article where nomura was present at one of the showings of the demo and he was nervous as fuck I'm trying to find both sources so don't screech at me pls
Grayson Bailey
If it were up to Nomura the game would be vaporware and 17,000 trailers of stuff that wouldn't make it into the game in the first place. You people act like XV wasn't Nomura's fault in the first place.
I am sure you're extremely apologetic for him turning KH3 into vaporware as well.
Eli Hernandez
Is World of Final Fantasy good? Is it better than Final Fantasy XV? Haven't played it yet but I'm interested. I thought Final Fantasy XV was mediocre and bland
Benjamin Rogers
He might not be doing it for long, it's starting to get to him.
Asher Perry
Creative Producer and original concept for Final Fantasy All the Bravest
I don't see why people continue to suck his dick after this major fuck-up.
Dominic Sanchez
Guys, guys, guys...
I can recognize the shortcomings of XV as much as anyone else, but building it up in your head that somehow Tetsuya fucking Nomura could have delivered a better story is just stubborn. The guy has a lot of talents but cohesive story delivery is not one of them.
Noah Parker
>Is World of Final Fantasy good? not really >Is it better than Final Fantasy XV? pretty much
Ryan Bailey
>You people act like XV wasn't Nomura's fault in the first place. Educate yourself son
Isaiah Flores
I've heard it's actually one of the best FF games in a long time-- you should definitely give it a try.
Gabriel Davis
>Is World of Final Fantasy good?
It's fine. It's very easy and full of fanservice.
Julian Thompson
>That first Nomura response.
I felt so bad for the guy. He just wants to be able to take a break but Square constantly keeps throwing project after project at him. I fear he's going to commit suicide one day from all the work and pressure
Wyatt Bennett
>literally apologize for Nomura ruining everything he is attached to like I said was going to happen
Square releases real new games without a decimal point in them quite regularly with little to no hiccups. How is it that every single fucking game with Nomura's name on it takes 5 years at minimum to see the light of day?
Brandon Morgan
Because it was a neat concept but Square went full fucking jew and fucked the game over by being greedy
Logan Richardson
>Didn't even read a word in that pic ok son >How is it that every single fucking game with Nomura's name on it takes 5 years at minimum to see the light of day? >every single fucking game WOFF, 2.8, X, and 1.5+2.5 have all released in the past year. All were announced within the past 2 years. Remember, no goalpost moving
Daniel Clark
buy the movie, mobile game, and watch the youtube anime. then make a pilgramage to squareenix tokyo and renounce FF VERSUS 13 PS3 then buy the premium season pass DLC and you just might enjoy Tabata's horse cabbage mutilated dick version called FF15 after the one year patch in November creates 30GB of extra CGI featuring stella being cruficied by her dumb sissified blonde replacement.
I read the entire thing and it was making excuses for Nomura about virtually every single fucking thing. He single handed has ruined every franchise he has touched and there is no question about it at this point. XV was salvaged from his fuck ups into an actually playable game instead of vaporware that would take another 10 years to see the light of day 2 generations behind.
Jonathan Lewis
I waited years for this game. I fucking preordered it. Thank god that persona 5 actually delivered because FFXV surely didn't.
Leo Ramirez
>unironically giving credit for remakes and shitty sidestories being released in 2 years or less
Austin Thomas
Remember, no goal post moving
David Lewis
While FF Versus XIII woulda been a much better game, I still enjoyed my short time with the mess that is FFXV, platinumed the game on PS4, the fishing mini game is fun, combat is okay-ish, monster design is great and a few memorable music tracks. The party of bros on a roadtrip slaying monsters was a good time and I have to hand it to them, at least they're listening to fans about problems the game has and are trying to correct them, I'm pretty curious to see what the Multiplayer component of the game will be (if its not most likely cancelled)
Justin Phillips
>Over the Hill Good taste. Also did anyone else go through the whole game without dying, get the airship and then instantly get a Game Over?
Ian Collins
>still didn't read anything in the pic That pic was made to show how Square fucked themselves over for the past 10 years, not to defend nomura. Building shit in-house engines, nomura not wanting to make kh3 for forever, and his decision to switch to slowly switch over to luminous are just some of the things you could have learned. But I guess the filename, the title, or the actual content of the pic was too much for you to handle.
Leo Murphy
Do you hear of shit like DQ having these problems? No. Because they're not attached to Nomura. The worst part is Nomura has never been in charge of an actually good game and yet he is ridiculously renowned for his character designs in games he had little else to do with.
Levi Hernandez
I honestly think Tabata dont deserve so much shit he got. Yes he is talentless, but he really deeply care about FFXV, not single dev would release a survey 5 months after release on what fanbase would like to see in game. And its understandable, because stuff was cut not just for fun, but to meet deadline.
Justin Russell
>Do you hear of shit like DQ having these problems? When they outsource most of those games to different companies, that tends to happen >The worst part is Nomura has never been in charge of an actually good game >Because I say so ok
Connor Nguyen
>not single dev would release a survey 5 months after release on what fanbase would like to see in game. Not every single developer would sell DLC that should've been on the disc at launch either.
Brandon Russell
>anti kun still shitting up Sup Forums and samefagging with his bullshit Man could you be any more cancer?
Nolan Mitchell
Please indulge me on the games he has been in charge of that came out great.
There is one single one, and I'd say Disney's influences had more to do with it than him, the first Kingdom Hearts game.
Dominic Hernandez
Oh boy it's time
Evan Adams
>everyone who dislikes the game is the same person The absolute state of FFXV fanboys.
Tyler Thomas
>outsourcing most of the DQ series
source please
Landon Kelly
THE TIME HAS COME
Evan Brooks
Hope you enjoy Persona 5 ramming its dick into your eyes every time you compare Metacritic scores.
Persona 5 on PS3+PS4 body slammed you queer.
Connor Bennett
Good thing all XV DLC is post game stuff or side content. But hey its OK for Nomura to make a million shitty fucking games that explain nothing and only make shit convoluted.
Christopher Campbell
Playing this song was the only time it felt like a real FF. Pretty Sad! if you ask me.
Nathaniel Morales
Which do you prefer
DLC side stories
OR
7 remakes of the same game with new content for full price.
The thing that screwed the story of the future games, was Nomura taking Sakaguchi's advice too strongly about how the story had to be complex or it wouldn't succeed.
Jaxon Robinson
No he didn't, he still has his yakuza suit and haircut in the flashback.
I find it hilarious that you think anything from the nomura trailers would have remained even if Nomura was still in charge. The 2013 trailer showing Altissia was all fake CG, no footage from 2006/2011 trailers would have been in the game either.