MGS5: SLEEPWALKER

MGS5: SLEEPWALKER

THE RUSE NEVER LEFT YOU user

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Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega.
The real MGS5 has not yet been released.
Kojima was never fired.

I've never played MGS, why is the creepy scientist shaving the decapitated head of sheldon cooper?

Just noticed that both Big Boss in TPP and Mads in Le Fantome drive a Triumph bike

Now I'm not saying Caramel is making connections where none exist, but it's possible he's mistaking what are basically nods and references (the bike, pt radio, low roar songs, TedX doc, silent hill drink) for a larger ruse.

His only counter to this is Dprito pope's hyperbolic tweet

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It was Evas bike originally

I'm sure lack of evidence doesn't exactly prove anything. All he seems to be saying is that he doesn't know. I mean, come on that's really a stretch

Oh, man. I'm tired of being disappointed. I guess I'll hold out hope of something happening just this once.

I'm not even that mad that you spam your theories in every thread.
I am fucking mad that you don't crop your images at all though

>THIS E3 YOU WILL BE BTFO
Nothing gets shown besides another (((in-game engine))) trailer introducing a new character
>THIS TOKYO GAMES SHOW YOU WILL BE BTFO
Same trailer is shown, Kojima does an interview about how he first started listening to Low Roar
>THIS GAMESCOM YOU WILL BE BTFO
Kojima won't even be there
>THIS PSX YOU WILL BE BTFO
Another trailer and first gameplay look. No signs of it being related to Silent Hills or MGSV.
>NEXT YEAR E3 YOU WILL BE BTFO
More gameplay, with a release date trailer. Still no signs to substantiate the rude claim
>ON RELEASE YOU WILL BE BTFO
Game leaks a week or two before launch, no connections at all.
>H-hehe, that was fun wasn't it guys? To pretend there was a ruse? Almost better than the final game...what a letdown

Are we through here?

>Close your eyes. Let your ears listen in to the radio. Do you hear my voice? Can you hear the screams of your own soul?

>Let us choose: my voice, which tells the future, or your tormented [struggles?]. Well? What do you choose? You can choose. Your life. Your future!

>Wise as you are, you may already have noticed. As the radio drama from 75 years ago was the truth. They are here, on our Earth. And they oversee and see all. Don’t trust the news. Don’t trust the police. They are already controlled by them.

>So has it been for 75 years now. Only [our master?] can keep them [at bay]. You have a right. A right to become one of us. So welcome to our world. Very soon, the gates to a new dimension will open.

Everything you know is wrong Sup Forums.

........................dlt

>All that useless whitespace
I'm not going to trust conspiracy theories from a retard who can't even crop properly. Get your fucking house in order.

Caramel I got two doubts that stop me from believing you.
1. The Kojima emblem wasn't released because he was fired
2. There's no proof that the emblem will be released on E3

You got any replies for this?

>1. The Kojima emblem wasn't released because he was fired
It's the lat emblem to be released and the pattern of the previous emblems indicate it'll be released this E3. Not to mention TPP has an update scheduled halfway through Sony's conference. Kojima was never fired. All second hand sources and rumors, the same thing he warned you about in MGS2. The official story is his contract expired with no word on whether or not it was renewed.

Isn't spamming threads against the rules?

>Expecting a vast Japanese conspiracy that lasts years over a video game
They can't be trusted to stay alive over there, and you expect the entirety of KojiPro AND Konami to keep quiet on a ruse of this scale for this length of time? You're in for a disappointment, friend.

Wait, is it known that there is an update scheduled for E3, like officially?

Yes.

Nope

SWEDEBRO FROM OLD /mgg/ REPORTING IN

Update: MGtheories on Twitter is NOT Caramel

>Not to mention TPP has an update scheduled halfway through Sony's conference
Source?
Is it on steamdb or something?

All hail the ruse cruiseeeee! Hop aboard the hype train. Kojima-san!!

>It's the lat(sic) emblem to be released
How are we so sure that it's not just Konami not releasing it since they removed Kojima from everything else?

Stop it. Fucking stop. You're only hurting yourself. You can't stay in that headspace, it's gone. You were duped by a hopeless japanese salaryman that gave up over a decade ago. There is no MGS anymore, there is practically no old IP left this side of Mario that hasn't been made something disgusting by the merciless entropy of time.

Konami's shit, Kojima stopped caring, and all the good guys are dead.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH

WOOOOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>"everything else"
>hes literally in the game
>theres literally a mission dedicated to saving kojima in game
>his name pops up as director/planner/writer in the beginning of every single mission
>his name is the first thing you see when starting the game
>his name is listed about 20 times in the end credits

oh yeah that's true

So where do Survive fit into all of this?

Not a real game. The last we heard of it was a gameplay demo last year which looks like it was slapped together in the span of two hours. Not only that the demo is narrated by Zero, the big bad of Metal Gear known for INFORMATION CONTROL, notice any suspicious parallels here?

>the demo is narrated by Zero
This is getting ridiculous, Caramel. Zero isn't a real person.

Where is Canavero going to get a body for his supposed transplant patient?

Hey Caramel could you clarify this please

>E3 2009
>Photo of Big Boss, Raiden and a mask of from Castlevania released
>OMG IT'S OTACON AFTER MGS4
>OH WOW GRAY FOX SURVIVED
>NO NO IT'S SUNNY
>OMG COULD THE MASK BE THE BOSS??
>KOJIMA PLAYING 4D CHESS THE RUSE CRUISE NEVER ENDS
>PSP game about Big Boss
>Game about Raiden
>Castlevania
>h-ha ha he sure rused us again... haha based
>MGS5 announcement
>OMG THE RUSE CRUISE BEGINS ANEW
>HOLY SHIT GUYS I THINK THERE IS A SECRET MESSAGE IN THE LYRICS
>WORDS THAT KILL???? I THINK THIS MEANS THAT CHICO GOT KILLED FOR HIS BETRAYAL
>QUIET IS CHICO HE WENT FULL TRANNY BECAUSE HE COULDN'T DEAL WITH WHAT HE DID
>A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR? I THINK THIS IS A REFERENCE TO MOBY DICK
>KOOOJJIIIIIMMAAAA
>terrible game about a speech virus
>2017
>Kojima got fired for being a hack
>random tripfag makes random claims
>THE RUSE CRUISE NEVER ENDED
Can we please stop?

Caramelpill me on Death Stranding, Silent Hills and MGSV: Sleep Walker.

Are we looking at a split timeline for the final part of MGSV? Are alternative dimensions making them all part of the same canon? Are we looking at a potential Kojimaverse?

I thought it was weird that Quiet or Joost rather was the assassin chick in the hospital that gets lit on fire and then later the same person is Quiet

but I don't think that's ever mentioned in game?

CHAPTER THREE MOTHERFUCKERS

What sort of events would we be seeing in MGS5: Sleepwalker?
Would we be back with Big Boss in reality or only in his coma dreams or what?

holy shit this is shit is another tier fan theory i've ever seen

The Camp Omega ending for TPP will reveal TPP was a coma nightmare / VR simulation. We might even play through the third, final and actual "truth" version of the hospital events.

We can only speculate but I'm guessing MGS5 will depict the war between Zero and Big Boss, the recruitment of key Foxhound members (Wolf, Fox) and Boss's descent into villainy.

Really not sure about this. Some sort of Kojimaverse with Metal Gear references in Silent Hills and Silent Hill references in MGS5 is a possibility, but if this is the case I really hope he doesn't go crazy with this and keeps both games true to their respective franchises.

It was mentioned.
The reason she had the parasite therapy was because her lungs were burnt to a crisp.

thanks user

Caramel couldn't possibly know that, I'm pretty sure Kojima got schizophrenia at some point.

go away tranny

Like a week or so and these threads will die forever.

She was just a xof assassin in the intro. The reason she's the character she is later in the game is cuz skullface or xof or whoever put her through parasite therapy, most likely because she was probably pretty skilled. That's why she's even out there looking for snake

Guys, why are there Diamond Dogs logos on XOF chopper pilot's helmet and on some boxes in their base?

STOP IT

that's what you think, unless there's something big for DS the ruseboys will just move the reveal to some other event

Why does the Patriot AI know about the events of Metal Gear Ghost Babel?

this is beyond pathetic

It was their simulation.

reused assets/laziness

>reused assets
But they had the same assets (boxes, helmets) without DD logos. They even make an appearance before that mission.

>implying a tripfag would know anything

Stop being rused user

in the first death stranding trailer the song that plays has a fiddle in it

Don't diddle my fiddle.

A simple oversight, nothing more. Please refrain from asking about this again. There is no ruse.

mgsforums.com/single/?p=9869017&t=7886374

But they could've patched it like they patched the credits timeline.

>"GzEndingFinish" is executed, and it indeed marks the ending of GZ,
>and executes something (We don't know what).
>There is a possibility for code to be added
>Camp Omega IS indeed defined as a map in the game files.

Too much.

>Camp Omega IS indeed defined as a map in the game files.
Because it's used in MGO you fucking gibbon.

Ghost Babel was Raiden doing VR simulation

That was never factored into this simulation.
Turn off the game console RIGHT NOW.

Well it's an mgo map too, keep that in mind.

It's him, he keeps spamming people about PT being DS in DMs

the mgo map
is in the mgo folder
saladin was datamining the master folder

Either that's around the time where the firings started happening and they went into lazy crunch time panic mode, or venom is actually a unreliable narrator. What infuriates me the most is kojima did such an awful job of making venom an unreliable narrator that it's hard to believe it

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>nobody modded mgo to use the locked assets like ishmael headpiece, the bandana and god knows what else
it could have made this shitshow a little better.

Saladin was also the one who found code in the game implying that data could, if some special thing was triggered on the Konami servers (disarmament?), be downloaded directly into TPP.
That is, bypassing PS store/Steam/Xbox Marketplace and getting downloaded directly into the game.

In other words, anyone spouting "DATAMINERS SAY THERES NO MORE MISSIONS/MAPS/DIALOUGE!!" can fuck off

I feel like there 100% was supposed to be a ruse. This is why there were so many hints about it.
But the CEO decided the plan was too risky and actually fired Kojima when he refused to just make a normal video game. Thus, we will never get the conclusion.

Do you guys think a mission editor could have ever reasonably been conceived? I guess Tenchu 2 did it and that was on the PS1.

Kawanishi-Noseguchi, Kinunobebashi, Takiyama, Uguisunomori, Tsuzumigataki, Tada, Hirano, Ichinotorii, Uneno, Yamashita, Sasabe, Kofudai, Tokiwadai, Myokenguchi

>guys calm down, Project Ogre is just a military game with some thematic demons nonsense
>guys you're being kinda fucking nuts here, Moby Dick studios is a promising new indie dev team and The Phantom Pain looks like some mindfuckery cinematic experience
>guys stop this already, PT is a demo for some random first person horror game like Amnesia, I mean look at the textures, it's obviously made by some indie team
>guys you're all delusional Death Stranding is a completely new game handled by the exact same team who rused us for four fucking times already

He finally pushed his luck too far, and his bosses pulled the plug.

Fox Updater.
reddit.com/r/NeverBeGameOver/comments/6efwp4/could_use_some_help_locating_some_info_i_heard/

and, keeping that in mind:

>2010
>gamespot.com/articles/kojimas-next-project-will-be-taboo/1100-6258116/
>"The next project will challenge a certain type of taboo," he wrote. "If I mess up, I'll probably have to leave the industry."
>2015, release
>people finish it really quickly
>game ends abruptly with no real closure
>fans are disappointed
>datamining is easier on PC so dedicated fans pretty soon finds a thing
>a title card for a third chapter called "PEACE" (the title card is STILL in the data btw, even though theyve done tons of updates that has removed other unused content)
>MGSV is the first real proper port of an MGS game to PC. coincidence?
>dataminer finds code that says data can be sent out from Konami servers to all clients when a special trigger is activated
>disarmament will, according to datamined code, bring a "closure" to Ground Zeroes, which is an entirely separate game

Could this be the taboo? Releasing a long awaited game without all the content until players manage to come together and bring peace to Kojimas created world?

Spoilers: no, thats not the taboo

Hear me out..
>MGS1
>Solid Snake thinks hes acting independently but its all just a plan by the Patriots
>MGS2
>Both Raiden and Snake thinks they are acting independently but its all just a plan by the Patriots
>MGS3
>Naked Snake thinks he's etc etc etc
This has always been the way of the MGS games.

What if disarmament is the ruse this time? What if the nuke count tweets are faked numbers? What if we've actually achieved disarmament several times over (do you remember how many people complained that theres supposedly thousands of nukes but noone could find any when searching ingame?)?
The only time there can be peace is when The Pat..Konami/Kojima decides its time for the disarmament event to finally be over.

That is the taboo.
You think you have control because this is a video game, but you do not.
Like puppets on strings, we dance.

E3 soon.

I'll just say, I like to read these theories and pretend Kojima is this clever and I dont wanna stop Caramel from his 24-hour shitposting. I dislike when fags get mad at this.

I have fallen for the Caramel rusecruise haven't I?

Remember that one of the Jap devs was angry because PC players datamined and extracted Medic's face from GZ. This was before TPP was released.

Yes.
Which happens to be the exact same face model that Ishmael has in the beginning of TPP.

desu, I'm almost convinced
but all of this just sounds too good to be true
would two companies risk so much just for a bit of publicity?

The game developed as a coma before the guy down at all.
Dorito Pope also responded with his best gaming division was JUST related because they can just the truth is perfect on so in the humiliated to do MGS5.
Death Stranding IS Silent Hills and rumors and sources. The trust the name when he also returning face.
>tedx takes no fucking is Silent Hills.

Dorito Pope is literally scheduled halfway through Sony's conference?
>the corner. They renewed it.

Kojima has bought Konami. Well, at least the AAA console games part.

You mean Anders Breivik, scuba diving frogman anti-multiculturalist.

Kojima hasn't had any influence over PES

I don't see why people get so mad about this shit. I get on this ruse cruise but anyone who does should do so half-jokingly. I don't believe it seriously but it's fun to entertain the thought.

Caramels posts are ridiculously far-fetched but there's also very much that adds up in some interesting ways. Kojima could have left Konami but there's a possiblity an epilogue was always part of the plan.

There's a few holes.

>Waiting like 2 years. Sitting on this.
>Konami character assassination for a 'ruse', it makes absolute no economical sense. The Japanese are VERY conscious of their image.
>Kojima wasnt the only one affected by Konami's random reform

Theres a few more, but you get the idea.

Its fun to read, but I think the fags who get mad so easily take life too seriously.

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>"So, here's the summary, put as simple as possible:


>*When triggering Disarmament by any means as we speak, the game will reward you 50k Heroism and tell you that you've achieved disarmament, while in reality you did not, as this reward is a red herring, it's misleading, it's fake, it's not disarmament's real reward. It's there to trick you into believing that you actually achieved disarmament, but you -in reality- did not.

>*GzEndingFinish and TppEndingFinish are empty messages. They hold no text in them at all.

>*We've been set up."


THEY KNEW WE WERE GONNA DATAMINE AND ACTIVATE DISARMAMENT IN ILLEGITMATE WAYS
AAAAAAA

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>>Konami character assassination for a 'ruse', it makes absolute no economical sense. The Japanese are VERY conscious of their image.
Konami don't give a fuck about a bunch of nerds spamming their Twitter and Facebook. When the truth is revealed everyone will love Konami more than ever before for daring to along with an artist's vision. Their stocks and profits have done nothing but improve since Kojima was "fired". The controversy was spread using rumors and second hand sources. The truth will be spread using the biggest gaming event in the world.

EYES
ON KAZUHIRA

Who is this tripfaggot?

I think the people that get mad now are just sick of caramel. He's condescending, insulting even if you're just debating for the enjoyment of it and he derails every thread, ruse related or not.

>Waiting like 2 years. Sitting on this.

I mean, the time between Ground Zeroes release and Phantom Pain was more than one and a half year. There was quite the gap.

whatever happened to those fags who were trying to piece together the audio of the secret msx files in the game or something?

It didn't lead to anything. Think it was purely a reference

Heaven is going to get SD.
PTSD

b) Zero is in cyprus
>has made several bananas lying around
>the coma.
>this point. Kojima tweeted call me me laugh when waking us his contract expired, with E3 right because he regretted killing
>ford coma? It has not canon.

I cannot help you blind people if it neveral travel be legendary this controversy was included in to kill 1 and 3.
The events of trivia about that? Why would it ruin it.
Ford out about is Silent Hills as an action advents of VR simulation.

Pretty much this. There is no discussion with that tripfag. If you ask a legitimate question that is contradictory his answer he either ignores it or it's just for the ruse. Pure autism.

This is incredible.
How?
How can they be so many steps ahead of us?