So why exactly don't you game on Linux? AMD open source drivers work great...

So why exactly don't you game on Linux? AMD open source drivers work great, don't know about Nvidia but I don't hear people bitching about them either. Also, any game worth playing is already on Linux, you're not going to miss Mass Effect Andromeda. Why don't you try? What have you got to lose? Microsoft's and third party Windows 10 malware up the ass, that's what.

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>Also, any game worth playing is already on Linux
no it's not

name a few

I could bother naming my favorite games but it's easier just to post this
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As you can see most are not available on Linux

How well does heavily modded stalker run?

>any game worth playing is already on Linux

I don't know, I only played Misery mod a year ago.

Well how did it run?

no issues

just Wine, Winetricks and Q4Wine, my standard Wine installation

we have win10 wine support now
and have somewhat working dx12
its fucking weird but whatever

if you really want to play some DX 12 game and don't want to wait for wine support you can always set up a gpu passthrough

also acceptable results
i just felt like mentioning something

post screenfetch faggot

ok, plz no bully

i have enough nightmares trying to load old games on my win8.1 - I don't need more troubleshooting with VM software above that

ill post mine if you give me a moment

maybe you should run old games through Dos Box and such?

>so why exactly don't you jump through a million hoops to end up using windows anyway

how the fuck would dosbox run Will Rock, Myst IV, Worms Blast, AvP2 etc., you moron?

Because none of my favorite games run on linux natively. It's as simple as that.

unrelated but i know i shouldnt have access to 12 cores on a 1600, so why do i have access to these

I wouldn't, try Wine or other software

Right now there's some Windows-only stuff I still want to play. But I'm sure I'll switch to linux eventually, software repositories are fantastic and I enjoyed what I tried of KDE desktop.

you just pirated a extra CPU

why would you play a shitty serious sam clone like will rock anyway?

i know windows wont let me use 4 of them so it only made me activate my almonds a little bit gpu is an rx480

dude, it was a joke

1600 has 6 cores for 12 threads that's it

your windows probably doesn't work properly

I actually do, sort of.

I use Linux for pretty much everything, but use a Windows VM with GPU passthrough to play whatever Windows exclusive shit I need to. That mostly means FFXIV.

My man.

>looking for PSP Gos on eBay
>WOOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! BRAND NEW SEALED PSP GO! EXCELLENT CONDITION! BARGAIN! STILL BRAND NEW SEALED IN BOX WOWWW!!!!!
>open the listing
>pictures are of the item removed from the box not at all
>the only Gos in good condition are super overpriced because the seller brags about them having a billion Nintendo ROMs on them to drive up the price
>actual brand new Gos aren't worth the money
>all older PSPs are either super expensive or look disgusting with bits of skin or whatever the fuck that shit is on the analogue stick
Nowhere else to complain about this so I'm posting it in your thread.

Also, to answer OP's question: the games never run quite as well as they do on Windows and if I'm going to be fucking around with proprietary software I may as well use a proprietary OS. Whenever I get bored of vidya I go back to GNU/Linux.

Because devs keep saying "Yes, they'll definitely be a Linux port!" and then there isn't a Linux port.

im retarded user
please understand

I was interested in Manjaro, but it just turns into an eternal blackscreen right after installation. I guess it's Ubuntu family for me.

well, we're on Sup Forums so I guess we both are

>eternal blackscreen

wouldn't you happen to use nvidia proprietary drivers?

Yes, I selected those during installation. But these drivers work on Mint.

this is where i get a little confused. it prioritizes the first 4, then diminishes exponentially on the next 4, and next 4

mind you i never really get bothered by this but it seems odd for how its handling things here. its just so vastly different on windows for whatever reason

This is ultimately why most people will stick with windows.
It's a neat idea but I simply do not feel like going through the motions of a new OS just to use a Windows emulator.

not sure, but i think there's a workaround over that issue, maybe you should check out their forums

Windows 7 no longer fully supports the latest hardware, and its only going to fall further behind in support and performance as time goes on.
MacOS X still has some support but Apple have seriously neglected its graphics capabilities, its drivers are only allowed to support OpenGL 4.1 and are well behind Linux open source drivers now both in terms of API support and performance. The open source AMD OpenGL drivers for instance are faster than AMD's official drivers and support full OpenGL 4.5, and Apple has blocked Vulkan from their platform.

Windows 10 shouldn't be a serious consideration for any PC gamer, especially now that its clear that 10's rolling release nature exists to ultimately force the Windows Store at some point in the future.

i don't know, maybe windows has shit scheduler?

probably
heres what loading ASSFAGGOTS (league) looks like

I only switched to Windows for video games. I use 7 because I'm comfortable with it and it supports my hardware. If I ever want to switch back to exclusively using GNU/Linux I'll switch to console gaming.

>So why exactly don't you game on Linux?
Because I don't like to get pounded in the ass?

There is absolutely no point to playing games on linux whatsoever, its a fucking meme.

Lots of the kind of games that you'd go to PC hardware to play run perfectly well on Linux.
Publishers like Paradox are very Linux friendly.

The cheaper gaming capable hardware gets, the more sense Linux gaming will make.

From my experience proprietary software on Linux is a pain in the ass. Weird little things that don't work properly and it all adds up. The way that closing Steam's window sometimes closes Steam entirely. The way that hovering over some menu items in Steam causes Steam to become deselected for a moment. The way that fullscreen acts weird in some games.

It's just annoying. I'm not new to the OS, I just don't like using it with proprietary software because it never quite works properly. This isn't a problem on Windows.

>its clear that 10's rolling release nature exists to ultimately force the Windows Store at some point in the future.

Oh, you're one of those starter edition is the future of windows retards, even though doing that would completely fuck over schools and small business ie microsoft's biggest moneyspinners. It exists as a half assed answer to chromebooks, no more than that.

>Microsoft can never drop win32! it would be the end of them!

Just like when they dropped DOS and almost nobody cared?
They're clearly preparing the market for it using 10 S as another wedge to drive their way further into the market.
Companies are either going to have to try to fight back like Valve is, or are going to bend over and accept anything Microsoft does because they still control the consumer desktop market.
Lawsuits will probably happen, but they'll take so long to resolve that in the end they won't matter.

The legacy market will just start rolling up their software with compatibility layers and putting it in the Windows Store, just like everybody bundles their DOS games with DOSbox in Steam and GoG today.

Nobody cared when they dropped DOS because nothing of worth fucking used it anymore by the point they did. Conversely, most everything, including almost all of their own shit still runs on win32 and will do for the forseeable future.

Stop being a retard.

1. I own an nVidia card.
2. A lot of games aren't on Linux.
3. Of those that are, a lot play worse and have specific bugs and crashes.
4. Of those that are playable, a lot have missing functionality relating to hacking and modding the game, that the community makes Windows exclusive.
5. Additionally, a lot of older or foreign games that need workarounds to get going won't work or work bad on Linux, because those workarounds and the community are Windows specific.

Those last two points make me worry about the future of some games when new hardware won't support win7.

If you haven't noticed they're not dropping Win32 and traditional installers today, but do you really think they're going to keep supporting it forever?

They have their store, they have UWP, they have new APIs.
They're even talking about an ARM version again.
The death of the open version of Windows, and win32 is coming. It will probably be after Windows 7's EOL but the writing is on the wall.

Practically no one needs a full power desktop system anymore, and for one of the big niche markets that does Microsoft has a massive conflict of interest in the form of the Xbox.
PC gaming isn't going to justify Microsoft maintaining a 'good' version of Windows going forward.
GNU/Linux is the only option for a future with PC gaming as we know it.

>So why exactly don't you game on Linux?
Because I want to play more than a few games.

>Just like when they dropped DOS and almost nobody cared?

Ayyy, its the start of my career, fixing old accounting software to be able to print things from the DOS emulator, because DOS was kill.
Thanks for indirectly making me lower upper middle class, Microsoft.

it doesn't happen on my machine is your windows up do date ?
my are almost all identical

Can Linux run Zelda: Breath of the Wild?

>Linux
>few games

You realize GNU/Linux has thousands of games, with a library that is larger than all the current gen consoles combined and that is second only to the now legacy (non-UWP) Windows platform?

I just realized Im' not on Sup Forums right now, anf because od this I just want to add
>Xbone's OS is a fork of win10 called Durango OS
>Synchronized update routines with UWP packages means exploits will exist on both if one is vulnerable
>this also means that the Xbone file system (used to be FatX, not sure if it is still FatX or some new version)

Basically the Xbone is essentially windows (and you all knew this) but if you wanted piracy on it, just approach it from a windows exploit perspective. From there you can essentially have a linux machine once you get kernel access


I run Win10 N LTSB, and ran debloat scripts and stopped update shit, chances are, no

GNU/Linux*

>why aren't you playing music using this wonderful instrument user

Yeah, but can you easily and conveniently pirate them?
Like Europa Universalis IV for example, can you pirate an up to date, full DLC, version of EU4 and play it with friends on Steam?
You can on Windows.

I bet there will be a lot of work in the next few years bottling up old shit with Wine.
Its actually already started with a few companies getting out ahead of the curve.

Thats still using windows for gaming, just putting it trough an ugly UI

No they're not dropping it, they're actively developing shit for it while uwp sits on the sidelines as something to port mobile shit to and that's about all it has going for it.

You're still not considering enterprise level windows in this discussion where the traditional desktop is firmly rooted, what the fuck are the going to do with active directory, system center and all that shit, put them up for free in the store and make them ad supported? Linux doesn't have anything that's even comparable in usability.

>You can play almost all the songs you play on a normal guitar!

mutter/clutter is incapable of running its own UI at steady 60 fps
i can imagine how bad it reflects in games
although you could always start a separate X server just for a game
but then you'd still be dealing with "linux on desktop" bullshit on everyday basis

>implying I'm not autistic

>try civ 5 on linux
>doesnt start
>have to dl shittons of repositories
>have to manually edit some files
>it runs
>suddenly keeps crashing
>spent 4 hours configuring shit for nothing fuck that shit

EU IV and all its DLC is available for GNU/Linux. Paradox is really good about support since the core demographics for their games and the Linux community are a good match

I don't know about the piracy situation since my knowledge of GNU/Linux long ago got me a good paying job.

>arch
no thats autism

it's funny, because you had more fun trying to get the game to run on linux then with the game itself

You can learn 95% of the useful Linux stuff in about 30 hours, no reason to jump through several hoops to play a game after that intense week of training.

Haven't switched to GNU/Linux because of Dark Souls...

iktf
move on

>doing ANYTHING but security or development on Linux

Completely fucking pointless.

Suck my dick linshits.

MS rules computing

Whatever we say, goes.

>doing development on linux
Why? Seriously, why?

>doing security on linux
Pwahahhahaha. A system designed to have ZERO security.
You don't know shit about Linux if you think its secure, the passwords used to sit in an unencrypted text file.

>No they're not dropping it, they're actively developing shit for it
Microsoft is a massive company that takes a long time to do anything.
They'll probably still have to maintain legacy win32 stuff for another few decades, but that doesn't mean it will be generally available or a good idea to still be running Windows 7 in five years.

>You're still not considering enterprise level windows in this discussion

Because it literally doesn't matter for this discussion. The PC gaming market and the enterprise market are very separate because enterprise customers pay them a ton more money.
If Microsoft forces the Windows Store on the consumer market by making 10 S the preferred version for OEMs selling mass market systems then game developers will have to support it.

>what the fuck are the going to do with active directory, system center and all that shit, put them up for free in the store and make them ad supported?
No, they'll go up in the Store, possibly in a special section you have to pay for access to.

>Linux doesn't have anything that's even comparable in usability.
There are a few different solutions, but generally the active directory model is seen as doing it wrong.
Even Microsoft uses GIT internally now.

maybe he is developing linux

This is also wrong, since you shouldn't be developing Linux, or for Linux, because nobody wants it.
Even on the server side, its slowly declining. Its only keeping its hare, because there are so many unemployed autists to work with such machines.

>switching to linux
>when denuvo is here to stay

>AMD open source drivers work great
no, no they fuckin' don't. they constantly crash if you put your computer to sleep, and on top of that they're around 20% less efficient than the official drivers. that's only for display though, processor drivers on the other hand are even worse, averaging around 30% less efficient

>less games, some of my favorite titles aren't on Linux and probably never will be
>linux ports are the last priority for developers. For example Insurgency has some really weird bugs that New World can't be assed to fix because they only affect a minority of and playerbase that's used to it
>also not on Ubuntu? tough shit, some devs won't give you any technical support because it isn't feasible to actively try to support every random distro/driver/hardware combination
>performance of almost everything is worse
>some games only run better because they're missing visual effects on Linux

I tried it and while I like Linux as a day to day OS for gaming it is still bollocks and it will stay that way for a long time.

>Linux
>declining

Linux is utterly dominant in every market that isn't desktop, and its slowly gaining ground there as Microsoft and Apple make it more and more clear that they are not being good stewards.

That's one of the best reasons to switch.
A good number of games that have Denuvo malware on Windows, don't include it in the GNU/Linux versions.

Do you mean the lucrative elevator, gym stationary bicycle, car air conditioner and copier machine software markets?

It's this level of delusion that makes people not take you seriously. This same bullshit has been repeated for well over a decade.

phones & other useless shit

Anything that runs on directx and doesnt support opengl, made in the last 15 years

>well over a decade

The first "year of the linux desktop" was 2000.

> they constantly crash if you put your computer to sleep
Never had that problem with my GCN card and Mesa RadeonSI. What are you using?

>and on top of that they're around 20% less efficient than the official drivers. that's only for display though, processor drivers on the other hand are even worse, averaging around 30% less efficient
Totally false. At worst they're as fast as the official drivers, at best they're significantly faster.

Only the RadV Vulkan support is slower but that's because it literally just hit feature complete and hasn't had any performance tuning yet.
Even then its already faster sometimes than OpenGL.

>AMD open source drivers work great

you must be taking the fucking piss because those exact drivers fucked my distro so hard i couldn't even boot into grub upon installing them

not to mention when i finally got it to work it was absolute shit not even doing 35 fps on rocket league with insane jaggies

>it will stay that way for a long time.
some time ago, when i tried "linux" for the first time with ubuntu 8.04 i was like
>"damn, its pretty good, but still not quite there, guess desktop linux needs a bit more time to mature and then it will be able to replace windows fully!"
10 years have passed and nothing has changed
it's still the same buggy shit that reeks of "unpaid development/design" and "0.2% market share"

You're joking, but the embedded market is actually very lucrative and is utterly dominated by GNU/Linux.
There's not much point building dedicated hardware or writing really low-level stuff when hardware with GNU/Linux can be had for dirt cheap.

>all this microsoft butthurt in this thread

kek

>try to install xubuntu
>install successful but corrupted file system upon boot
>download linux mint instead
>installed successfully
>no drivers for half of my pc components
>try to download ethernet and nvidia drivers via phone
>not recognized storage device
>use another pc to copy them onto a flashdrive
>try to install drivers via command line because thats the only way
>nothing goes as explained, error messages everywhere
>reboot
>corrupted file system
I will use windows, thanks

People only need to play one game, and one game only.


And that game is Wing Commander 3: Heart of the Tiger.

What Distro?
What Card?
What version of Mesa?

>you must be taking the fucking piss because those exact drivers fucked my distro so hard i couldn't even boot into grub upon installing them
Are you sure you were using the open source drivers? They're not something you install, they're a part of the Linux kernel and the Mesa project which are obviously included by default.

>not even doing 35 fps on rocket league with insane jaggies
That sounds like you were using AMD's shitty official stuff. Rocket League runs great on the open drivers.
Its only issue was before the shader cache went in (a few releases ago) it would take a while to start up.

you need to build your pc around linux for it to work properly
if something doesnt work in linux, you throw it away and try something else

best case is you find the popular hardware among linux devs and just stick to it

its like mac/osx, without any of the benefits

literally no geams on loonux

Sorry, but that sounds like utter bullshit.

>no drivers for half of my pc components
What hardware are you using? There's a very short list of stuff these days that doesn't just work thanks to built in support.

>try to download ethernet and nvidia drivers via phone
Nvidia is a bad actor, but the drivers in the default system should be enough to allow you to install their driver which most distros make available with their packaging system.
What shitty ethernet hardware doesn't work on the literal main networking OS?

>not recognized storage device
Phones use standard APIs for file transfer to PCs. They just work on GNU/Linux.

Please don't spread misinformation or talk about shit from 5-10 years ago.

ITT: We learn that Microsoft shills are active on Sup Forums. They shitpost all the time and they're genuinely scared of Linux and that it will do to the desktop market what it already did to server market.