Overwatch enforces a 50/50 win rate. This is a fact that you cannot deny.
Overwatch enforces a 50/50 win rate. This is a fact that you cannot deny
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almost every game with match making tries to enforce a 50/50 win rate
That doesn't make it okay.
Post overbuff, bronzecuck. The real elo hell is high diamond.
Yup.
Good thing complaining on Sup Forums gets so much done.
I don't remember the exact quote or who it is from but paraphrasing some Chess super-GM's answer to a reporter: "If you aren't losing half of your games, you are playing the wrong people"
Unless you are among the absolute best or absolute worst, your skill level is changing very rapidly or you're on a (un)lucky streak with low total number of games played, any game in which ratings are used should eventually start putting you against evenly matched opposition (resulting in ~50% win rates). This is how it should be.
If the matchmaking puts a player with 2400 ELO in a team with 1200 ELO players against a team in which everyone has 1800 ELO then it probably doesn't result in satisfying matches for anyone and it's bad matchmaking, but that's not the same problem as "enforced 50/50 win rate". I don't play Overwatch so I wouldn't know about that, though.
If you were as good as you think youd do better than 50/50, faggot.
It doesnt "enforce" shit, you just lose.
>Play pharah
>68% winrate
Sounds like you're just bad OP
>Not wanting to play against people of the same skill level
Haha yeah it's so much fun when I win because I played more. Christ, there are too many casual fucks on Sup Forums these days.
>literally 90-45 w/l on pharah in quickplay
>still get matched with fresh accounts
I think QP hidden mmr just freezes once you do placements even once.
No, but it actually is okay. Name a matchmaking system that does not have a goal to make all players tend towards a 50% win rate.
If I join every match and just purposefully dick around, will I still end up with a 50% win rate
Your winrate will always eventually trend to 50% because you'll get placed with people who are either also dicking around or simply bad, so even though you're dicking around you'll beat people half the time regardless.
>buy Overwatch
>play 1 game
>win
>100% win rate
>NEVER play it again
I am a master Overwatch player!
I agree. How is a team of 4 or 5 stars vs a team of 1 and 2 stars balanced?
Because their SR is the same. Yes, there are people out there with 5 stars who are still at the skill level of a new player.
Every game you refuse to play counts as a loss.
Someone explain this to me.
>3900 rating last season
>Win 8/10 placements
>Get put in silver
Then why do i get matched with people clearly many sr ranks higher than me? I dont want to play against autism
you are not the reason your team won
simple as that
I had a 80% win rate until I made it to masters where it feel down to 50% probably because that's where I belonged so yeah no shit it's 50% because you faggots belong in low rank
not that guy, but who is saving that information? :^)
Cause they found out you're a tripfagging scumbucket
>3900 rating
>you are not the reason your team won
What did you mean by this
mfw i play for fun and just to see weird and funny shit happen while collecting random gatchapon boxes
tryhards get out stay salty and rage while im having funzies
Fuck man, I'd be stoked if I actually had a 50% chance of winning.
It feels like more than anything, whether I win or not depends on the time of day/week. Weekdays and at night I seem to get consistently grouped with retards and lose. Conversely, I always have great luck on Sunday afternoons.
>matchmaking system that puts up people of equal skill level against each other to get a balanced match
>suprised when you end up at 50/50 w/l
If anything a 50/50 winrate shows that the matchmaking system works.
That false tho
I got 4W/18L/1D last season playing only healers
on the seasons before I was around 75% winrate playing only dps
You got carried FAGGOT
Isn't this the case with most pvp games?
I've dealt with the rubber band effect a lot, if I ever get like a dozen wins in a row in any team based game, I fully expect to be teamed up with a bunch of morons for the next dozen matches and have to deal with a losing streak.
It pisses me off to no end, but it's the case in any competitive game with auto matchmaking and team balancing.
Post your tag so people can check your season ratings.
Comp doesn't
I've only ever solo queued. You can't be carried to 3900 by luck.
Unless you're playing Arcade, then it's more like 20/80.
Blizzard rigs its matchmmaking so that you get loot boxes as slowly as possible to coax you into buying them.
If you have a winrate way above 50%, it puts you against more skilled opponents to try to match your skill.
>Play Mercy
>Win 8out of 10 placement matches
>always Gold at Healingand sometimes Obj time
>1900 rating
Should I stop playing healer in ranked? Il'll never get out of that baby gold league solo.
And tell me what's wrong with it?
>I've only ever solo queued
Of course you did sweetie
Yes.
If you do extremely well your next match should be against better players, but no. This game gives you much worse teammates instead, and this is what is broken.
>caring about placement matches
>let people on Sup Forums report my tag
no
100% true
This. The amount of fags who lucked out of plat and go "well end of the line time to main dps with 30 accuracy lol"
I hate matchmaking. I like chaotic games better. Overwatch should have a matchmaking-free mode. I haven't played in a while so I'm not sure if the server browsers are in yet to satisfy that.
Nice bait. Post proof or somehow you got carried to 3900 and are trash
Only if you live in a one-variable world.
I won two of mine and placed literally 200 sr below where I left
I'm level 180 and had not played for around 2 months. When I tried to play the 1v1 for the loot box it matched me with a silver 450 (1450 I think). I got 3 wins and he stomped me the rest of the time.
After that did 3v3 and I got 300 and 400 on my team the other team got a 60 200 and silver.
I don't even know how they manage to balance arcade when it will just hand out free wins to teams.
Have top tiet gamesense lad. Track enemy ults, listen for flankers trying to get at you. Know when to pop a key rez and pls dont br one of those >everyone die so I can get my 5man lol
Filtered (^_^)
i regularly host a shrek 2 rp that is just a 500% everything match anytime im on. Shits far more enjoyable and is oddly more balanced than the vanilla matches.
Give me 7 minutes for my game to end and I'll blow you the fuck out
Send money to my paypal and I'll tell you how to git gud
If the matchmaking pairs you up with people equal to your skill level, wouldn't that mean you'd win around 50% of the time? Doesn't that mean it's working?
How the hell did yoy drop neatly 1000 sr lad? Did you throw alotta games?
I moved house, didn't have internet for over two weeks, rating depreciated. That's why it's exactly 3000 and not 2981 or 3024
>You can't be carried to 3900 by luck.
You absolutely can,
>crush enemy
Game pairs you with higher skill players
>get crushed
Game pairs you with lower skill players
>solo que
Game balances your SR with your teams against the enemy
Yeah 50/50 win rate sounds about right. Unless you're master level and que with a group it's sort of unlikely to get above like 70% winrate. It'll stick around 50% in general because the game is trying to keep it balanced and fair by pairing you against opponents who are on the same spectrum of autism as you are. That's what good matchmaking is scrublord, sorry you can't just stomp fucking bronzies all day, eventually you're gonna have to face those pro-silver players.
It's completely untrue. There's no serious, competitive multiplayer game alive where you can reach the top 4% of players through solo-queue based on pure luck.
Mercy mains.
Still dont see the proof that you are in silver now
I can't prove that. I got put in silver, played 10 or so games, and now I'm 3.2k.
The placement match system is just fucked. It correlates to nothing.
>I can't prove that.
because it didn't happen :^)
>top 500 streamers that solo and duo queue and win games consistently
How do they do it bros
>wins some games with people at a lower skill level than him
>gets bumped up to the next skill level.
>loses a few
>etc.
Sounds like you just plateaued OP.
Yet another thing they stole from valve, like all the dota characters
Not him, but in a game like CSGO, despite being an RNG shitfest with hax, r/Sup Forums community, and piss poor servers, you can still carry if you are good enough. This is where 50/50 makes sense.
While in OW, you are completely dependant on your team. Being able to play multiple characters doesn't stop the shitty Hanzo or Widow from missing their shots. Or the shitty battle Mercy from attacking instead of healing. Or the Rein who charges in any time he gets close to dying.
The best explanation I ever heard for why OW's MM is shit said, "It's not the team with the best players that is going to win. Rather, it's the team with the worst player is going to lose." Not to mention the game literally forces you to play with objectively garbage players who are 20/134.
Game sense. Pros who play off meta heros like chro have mad game sense
Because playing solo queue gives you less SR loss when you lose because you're not playing with a group. You either have a full team of six that you're playing with to coordinate, or you're going solo and hoping to Christ you win more than lose.
>i dont want to play against autism
>playing an online multiplayer game in 2017
>i dont want to play against autism
>playing a blizzard online game ever
Dude. You are playing against autism, in any mode and in any rank. Always.
I'm getting real sick of these fucking retards picking DPS and not dealing with the fucking Winston that keeps hopping behind and killing supports.
Stop playing your faggot Genji bullshit and actually do something near the objective
wtf does "enforce" mean?
If you place at a ranking that represents your skill accurately, then you are going to be queued with people who are your equal in skill. If you are queued with people who are your equal in skill, then statistically you will win half the time. It doesn't ENFORCE it. It's the whole POINT of your ranking to end up winning half the time. If you got any other winrate, then you're either constantly changing rank significantly or you're chilling at either extreme.
God.
The good thing about higher ranks is that every win feels earned and every loss feels justified because you're always matched with good players.
There's rarely a guy trolling or some idiot who can't play. Everyone has the fundamentals down and your own skill can carry your team forward. However, when you're playing with Top 500s there's always a fucking twitch streamer in every game so all your fuck ups are played back live to an audience of thousands
And HotS enforces an 80% loss rate. What's your point?
poor support cucks, unless youre not a support main.
Every fucking game "forces" a 50/50 win/kill rate.
One team wins, one team loses. One guy gets a kill, the other guy fucking dies.
The average across all players will ALWAYS BE 1:1. Select few individuals will be able to maintain a higher rate of wins and really shitty/unlucky fucks will be losing most of the time.
If you are winning half of your games, you're at your limit of skill. You're winning against people below you and losing against people better than you.
>50/50 Win Rate
>Literally Eternal Losses once i hit High Diamond
There is no whay
That's why I like call of duty. Throws you in random matches with no proper skill-based matchmaking whatsoever. If you're good, you'll shitstomp 99% of people.
>what is a matchmaking algorithm
hmmm, really batters the ol' braincage
What if my K/D ratio is over 100.
This can't just be pure luck.
>sombra's melee attack instantly kills from behind; can hack people through shields
Does this fix the game?
>one trick Torbjorn, have 64% win rate
>try to teamplay with anyone else and lose constantly
Placements don't matter
I was GM on my main account and calibrated at 3983, and on my alt it was 3k and calibrated at 3700 when it was gold the entire season except the last week.
I usually play Rein.
I can't protect them from AoE lasers
No, that's stupid. Dive comps are already on the rise and Sombra's already useful both as part of and as a counter to them.
>Play Mercy
You don't deserve a high SR, and I'm sick of your kind infesting my GM matches
What does this mean?
Mobas are torture most of the time because of this retarded matchmaking. You will lose 3 games out of 10 because your team consists of braindead noobs who started playing yesterday. Then you will win 3 games with absolutely no challenge, stomping them in a matter of minutes.. Another game will be won because someone was lagging or disconnected, then one lost for the same reason. Only 2 out of 10 games are really enjoyable, fair and challenging, where you either outplay everyone like a pro, or lose to someone who's really that good.
80% of the time you spend on your average Moba is lost thanks to jewish tricks which turned the genre into Skinner box.
But there's heaps of evidence out there that you can carry. Good players will consistently end up high ranked across multiple accounts and hard carry their way through lower ranks on deranked accounts. If you want to win more, get better.
This does not match my experience
>game has a win or loss state, meaning that you have a 50% chance to get either depending on circumstantial factors
>WTF WHY IS THERE A 50/50 WINRATE FUCKING BLIZZARD
youtube.com
>0% win rate
>Your advice to all those he played with is "git gud"
Not an argument
fucking this so much
So what's wrong with matchmaking for a 50% win rate exactly. I don't get it, what would the alternative be?
That's not how it works retard.
Once you win too often, the game with put you with people who are losing a lot to balance it out, basically lowering your chances to win artificially.
it's frustrating when you're on a winstreak and you either get matched waaaaaaay above your skill level, or the system purposely places two low skill retatds on your team to make up for it
>I don't know what ELO is or what it does but I'm going to vomit words anyway
The best of the best can carry with an extremely limited selection of heroes, treating the game as a job, not relying on anyone and having to babysit others the entire time. It's impossible to get any fun when you stand up from your chair with red eyes and sore asshole, with body temperature 10% above normal, because you just had to be 300% better than everyone else, biting your tongue and shitting in the sock just to get that victory which is gonna be taken for granted by a bunch of complete pieces of trash in your team, who didn't bother at all.
And when you get that MVP for 10th time in a row, and will be lying on the floor from the lack of hydration, the worst player in the entire game, the ultimate shitter who was dying from minute one, ending up with a 0\20 score, he will write "ez" in the chat, at which point your soul will ascend to heaven.
Not an argument.
Source me chief