Objectively best multiplayer shooter from this generation

>objectively best multiplayer shooter from this generation
>nobody talks about it
Sure is Sony in here.

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Titanfall 2 was better

You're right about the multiplayer but the campaign is so depressingly bad I can't stand playing the game

>CoD clone

Never played it, how does it compare to Halo 3? Are vehicles even a thing anymore?

Both titanfall 2 and H5 MP are top tier, but Titanfall 2 has a much better campaign then H5.

it's shit. ESPECIALLY if you rate it as a halo game. 343i is trash.

It's an Xbox exclusive, why do you think no one talks about it here?

It's shit, aiming was fucked for nearly 2 years

It plays more like a faster Halo 2, if Halo 2 had some CoD AW/Titanfall's advanced movement stuff built into it.

Also more guns other then just the BR and power weapons are useful

>Are vehicles even a thing anymore?
They are but normal H5 mp focuses on 4v4 on smaller maps, and there weren't any big team battle maps in the game by default, so the big team batlte playlist which vehicles in 5 is kind of shit.

Warzone has vehicles though and I think warzone is great, but a lot of people also think warzone is a chaotic mess.

>I can't stand playing multiplayer because single player is bad
Wut
Plenty of vehicles in the bigger maps, just like every other Halo game. Way faster than Halo 3, higher skill ceiling. Armor design isn't as good as Halo 3

>No splitscreen
>No local co-op
>Shoe-horned "modern" FPS features like ADS
>Microtransactions

lolno

I've never understood this, H5 has my favorite aimfeel of the series by a giant margin.

All the guns are actually reasonably accurate for once and aiming and shooting feels tight.

Go back to your dead general.

Halo is done

>It plays more like a faster Halo 2, if Halo 2 had some CoD AW/Titanfall's advanced movement stuff built into it.
So, in other words, it plays nothing like fucking Halo 2.

>He 's repeating the halo 5 has ADS meme

They just reskinned the same zoom the series has always had to look like ADS and gave it to more guns, which only helps the weapon balance

>B-BUT IT IMPACTS ACCURACY

it always has, pic related

>>No splitscreen
>>No local co-op
Neither does TF2, OW, RB6S, ...
Why do they get away with it?

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>playing post-bungie halo

>Are vehicles even a thing anymore?
ya

Reach

>it plays nothing like fucking Halo 2.

Except it does. Are you implying that movement features are the only things about the game that defines how it feels or plays? It's not just slapping on those functions and calling it a day, they are implemented in a way that makes sense with and works well with Halo's gameplay without making it feel not like Halo.

Hell, having more advanced movement systems in Halo makes perfect sense because the only thing Halo has always lacked other then crouch/grenade/rocketjumping compared to other arena shooters llike Quake or UT is advanced movement tech. H5 adds more advanced movement techjuques, there are a fuck ton of skillumps that require chaining crouch, slide, thrust, hover, and etc.

I bet you would call duel wielding and vehicle hijacking "not halo" if it first came out in Halo 4 or 5 too.

Better than other console shooters except TF2 desu

>posting that horribly cherrypicked video

>They changed something to appeal to a younger, wider audience, not because it actually made the gameplay better
>This is a GOOD thing, why don't you like it!?
It's not Halo, Halo didn't need ADS.

Halo 2 & 3 were my favorite multiplayer games of all time. Reach was okay, and I didn't really enjoy Halo 4 which made me sort of give up on the series.

Is it worth getting Halo 5? Would an old school Halo 5 like myself enjoy it?

>No splitscreen
>No local co-op
Literally the same complaints split in two so it makes the game look worse.
>Shoe-horned "modern" FPS features like ADS
It works exactly like the old zoom. No movement speed penalty and it's removed if you get shot
>Microtransactions
That's good you fucking retard. Let the normies pay for cosmetics while we get free dlc. That way the playerbase isn't split

It feels like evolution of Halo 2 and getting things bungie tried to do with Reach right.
Halo 3 is boring and slow version of H2, Reach and H4 are shit attempts to add stuff, H5 does it pretty right.

>b-b-but these other games!
They're shit too, OW and TF2 are treadmills for micro-purchases and nothing more.

Except it is a good thing because it gives weapons alternate functions or better accuracy that needed them. I don't give a fuck if it was done to appeal to CoDfags, the end result is that the weapon sandbox is more balanced

>Halo didn't need ads
Good thing it's not ADS then.

Reach has more current players than 5 does.

>Microtransactions
>That's good you fucking retard.
The future of video games ladies and gents.
We're doomed.

>Microtransactions
>That's good you fucking retard

>Now we get "FREE" DLC that shouldn't have been DLC in the first place, I've been successfully conditioned to accept and want DLC!

Clearly I'm not alone in my opinion, given Halo 5 is the worst-selling game in the franchise and MS won't even tell you how many people are playing.

>ignoring the rest of the post
Actually, don't play Halo 5. I don't want retards like you on my team

>unironically playing multiplayer games

Sure is normie in here.

>Now we get "FREE" DLC that shouldn't have been DLC in the first place
This is true for some stuff in H5 but not all of it.
The amount of content it has now is a lot more than you'd expect for release but on release it didn't have enough.

I don't intend to ever play Baby's First FPS: 5, let alone buy a Xbox One for that.
Don't you worry about that.

There was no reason to change the scopes. Add ADS to autos that had nothing before, but there was no reason to replace the scopes. The gun takes up a third of the screen.

I didn't like it, I didn't like the game, so I skipped it. if MS wants to appeal to people who aren't core Halo fans that's fine, core Halo fans just won't buy the games anymore.

See, you fell for their bullshit. DLC has been normalized, so they can now dangle microtransactions over your head so you'll think
>Gee, isn't it GREAT that these pay for the DLC that didn't exist ten years ago in the first place? Such a great deal!

When in reality it just pads the game's bottom line. Its not paying for more content, they had that content planned already. it's just lining pockets.

I agree that the old scope style was a lot simplier to see through and I'd prefer it have stayed that way, but at the end of the day it's litterally just a visual change for those guns that already had zoom.

Also, it's hilarious that people get pissy about something like this that and the end of the day changes nothing or makes stuff better as "appealing to casuals", yet they defend and praise 343's announcement that from now on every story will be simple as being a good thing and not dumbing things down for casuals.

Halo 5 is great value for your money. The multiplayer is excellent and there's a lot of variety. There's even a custom games browser. Don't let these faggot haters convince you that it is a bad game. They never give examples of what good gameplay means and they would probably be happy just playing pistol/battle rifle slayer for all of eternity.

>DLC has been normalized
Of course I'm fine with free updates with additional content. Literally a nonissue.
>they had that content planned already
But they have a deadline to release the game. In theory, you could delay a game indefinitely forever and keep adding content, but suggesting such a thing is nonsensical

But its an unnecessary and detrimental visual change. It's just another reason for me to not like the game.

It's just painfully obvious they wanted to grab a wider, larger audience with Halo 5. They may have gone back to even starts but we have sprint, that little slide, the clamber animation, the ground-pound, etc. and all that shit just doesn't play like Halo.

Couple that with the lack of any/all offline play beyond the single-player campaign, and you have the worst Halo game in the series. I don't care how good the MP may be when literally half the functionality is fucking gone, the game will be 100% unplayable when servers go down but Halo 1-4, ODST and Reach will still have all their MP modes available to play forever. It feels like I'm almost renting Halo 5's MP, it's on a ticking clock and will eventually be unplayable, a waste of money.

>ODST and Reach
The worst selling worst Bungie made Halo games not made by the entire team as a whole like Halo 1-3 were.

>Master Chief Collection is great value for your money
ftfy

Halo 5 has online-only MP and a garbage campaign.

MCC is four full games and isn't online-only, it has co-op and splitscreen so you can actually play with other people.

You spelled Destiny wrong

That looks retarded.

>console
>FPS

gee i wonder why

Good one my dude

>hey may have gone back to even starts but we have sprint, that little slide, the clamber animation, the ground-pound, etc. and all that shit just doesn't play like Halo.

I don't really care much for ground pound either way or sprint on it's own, but I actually quite like what the slide, thrusters, and clamber bring to the table and wish the series had implemented them sooner.

Halofanboys will defend this piece of shit series.

>Except it does

If you've never played Halo 2

Halo Custom Edition PC was GOAT though. It's still the best version in the entire series.

Point being they make the game play like something that isn't Halo. It may be okay for what it is, but it's not Halo. And I don't think they made those changes primarily because they genuinely thought it would make the gameplay better, they did it because other popular FPS franchises incorporate them and they wanted the game to appeal and sell to that audience.

I'd really like to see and play what 343 had in the early stages of Halo 4's development that reportedly played very much like the classic games and was scrapped in favor of what we got. Seems to me 343's priorities were getting a wider audience, not pleasing Halo fans.

It's free on PC.

Nah it plays like Halo.
No worse than changes from CE -> H2 and H3.

The guy around the 2 min mark from 343 actually says the right thing, but otherwise, this is scathing

Halo 5 going all-in on the competition MLG playlists and tight-quartered maps pretty much killed my interest in it. I got started with Halo playing CE on the PC and BTB was pretty much always where it's been at.

I've always found team Slayer pretty boring desu.

The first and second were god like. It fell off afterwards. To say 1 and 2 sucked is retarded. They were revolutionary for console fps. The campaign's weren't bad either. 3 had the weakest campaign of the trio though.

Kek, sure buddy.

No, it does not play like Halo, and it was much, much worse.

But even if I pretend the above isn't true, it's still missing half the functionality every other game has, so it's on the bottom by default. Halo 5 will be unplayable in a few years when servers are gone, so I really couldn't care less how good the MP may be (its really not) when I won't even be able to play it unless I buy it now and pay for XBL. There's no longevity, the game simply has less value because it has less to it.

Name a game that doesn't do this nowadays. This is the game industry right now whether you like it or not and at least H5 has one of the least toxic microtransactions systems.

>betcha can't stick it

HNNNGGGGG EVERYTIME

God, I hate people like you. All you want is the same exact fucking Halo games we've already got. If you want to play Halo 2 or 3 go play Halo 2 or 3. If you want to play a game that actually feels like a true sequel that expands the gameplay formula without destroying what was good about the game, play Halo 5.
Stagnation is death, motherfucker.

>Everyone else does it, so that makes it okay!
lolno

Supporting it and giving them money certainly isn't going to change anything.

>Defending 343 Halo
There are other series where you can argue which installments are good and bad, they're subjective, that's fine. But in this instance no, you have to be genuinely idiotic to say 343 Halo's are good, let alone "best" anything. They're objectively bad, they ruined Halo so that casuals who never played a real FPS can pick up the series and start playing. They completely butchered the franchise, raped the lore and give no shits about the fanbase, they're greedy fucks.

Halo 4 and 5 are terrible games, this isn't up for discussion. If you defend them you're part of the cancer that killed Halo.

Just get both, months worth of content there.

Halo 5 is better than ODST and Reach.

>tfw Bungie died
>tfw Halo died
REE

>5 will be unplayable in a few years when servers are gone,
Yeah i'm sure everyone's gonna cry in 15 years while they're playing Halo 9.

Looks like theyre gonna talk about this at e3. Only reason why anyone would shill this shit now when its been forgotten about for so long.

I've been playing Halo since the series first came out. 5 has objectively better multiplayer than Reach, CE, and 3.

>Halo 5 is better than ODST and Reach
It even sold better than them.

Halo 5 isn't even better than halo 4.

>Stagnation is death

>Halo 5 is the worst-selling game in the series
>Failed to meet sales expectations or move a significant number of consoles
>MS won't even show playercount because its so low

No, seems like ditching your dedicated, core fanbase in an attempt to grab a wider audience that's not really interested in the first place while cutting staple features like local co-op and multiplayer for no reason whatsoever is death, you ignorant mouthbreather.

343 are either completely out of touch with what Halo fans want or just don't care.

No, just get MCC, it doesn't require a $60 subscription to play.

You listed a ton of ways it doesn't play like Halo 2, movement was just one of them. Complete lack of vehicle play and BTB maps is very unlike Halo 2, having had some of the largest and best BTB maps in the series.

You clearly haven't. Halo 5 took all the worst aspects of Halo 2 and 4's multiplayer and condensed them into one COD clone aim-assist experience. There's no map variety, awful forge textures, terrible map design in general and next to no Halo mechanics.

I never said it's ok, that's just how the bussiness models keep evolving: map packs, season passes, pre order bonus, deluxe editions, microtransactions, loot boxes, there will always be shit like this.
Again, name a game that doesn't do this.

>objectively better
>half the functionality is missing

>Halo 5 is the worst-selling game in the series
But that's wrong. ODST sold over 3 million and Halo Reach sold over 4 million while Halo 5 sold 5 million in 3 months and those numbers are most likely higher now.

>COD clone aim-assist experience.
There it is, now i know you're full of shit.

They didn't start with it as a prominent feature that was loved by many.

Pretty much the only reason I played Halo as much as I did was because of local and LAN multiplayer.

Like what?
It has a customs host and browser dude, that alone shits on other stuff.

>Halo in 2017
Lmfao how deluded are you

t. OW/moba kid

I really want to try it but the UI is so disgusting and cluttered to the point it turns me off completely

Play Halo 3 or CE then play Halo 4 and 5. The bullet magnetism, lack of need to lead shots and aim-assist is ridiculous. It's evident you're the one who has never played a Halo game

>379864364

Halo series was known for having local multiplayer until 5 343 shills. Even CoD still has it

>owning a console without online subscription
Is there actually people who do this? Just buy a PC or something.

>Again, name a game that doesn't do this.
Again, that's not an argument.

loot boxes are cancer, subscriptions are cancer, micro-purchases are cancer. I don't care who is doing it, it's fucking cancer. The sooner AAA publishers downsize the better, I'm sick of this shit. Video games as a whole are not moving in a healthy direction and being complacent will not do anything but make that move happen more quickly.

Which is honestly tragic, since it's easily the best multiplayer suite of the series. Best gun balance and weapon sandbox, best movement options, best Forge mode, best custom games, and Warzone is legitimately great.

Of course, 343's probably going to fuck all that up the next game because even though they nailed the multi, it didn't sell enough.

Like any/all forms of offline or local multiplayer and co-op. Can't even do LAN anymore.

only normie dude bros in frats care about aht

Oh horseshit, the bullet magnetism in 3 makes 5 look like a PC shooter.
I was getting absolute bullshit headshots with the BR without even trying when 3 was played.

It doesn't play like Halo. Its okay for what it is but its not Halo.

And its online-only so I couldn't give less of a shit how good or bad it is, I'm not renting a multiplayer mode mode for $60/year when all the other Halo games had tons of shit to do offline. I'll just play those instead.

>It has a customs host and browser

Your game needs an active population for these to work.

It's the other way around tard

The other games have more aim assist than Halo 5, 5 compensates this with increased bullet magnetism, both have always been part of the series.

Is it still based on circle strafing fights with melee and grenades being your other two options?
Then it still plays like Halo.

>Only the game's target audience cares about that
Well then its not surprising it sold like shit then