Would any Persona MC had a chance with this guy?
Would any Persona MC had a chance with this guy?
Literally all Persona MCs have killed gods. He's fucked.
P3MC has the strongest chance of charming him.
Barring power of friendship hacks, no
Persona's gods are imaginated though.
>All Persona MCs have killed gods
>They're totally gonna win against a guy who has also killed gods, but doesn't need a dragon dildo present to use his own god powers
If they don't pull some muh friendship/give me your energy out of their ass, probably not. They'd all probably start crying once he vaporizes only one of them with a Freikugel because they're fucking pussies that haven't gone through some shit like SMT protags.
well any smt protag would crush any persona protag
No they didn't. Unlike Demifiend, their personas did the whole job.
No, he's the master of magic.
>Magic
>not STR
get a load of THIS lawfag
Tatsuya probably could do some damage but not enough to defeat him
I forget is Nova Kaiser almighty or nuclear or fire, its been a long time
Nuclear.
And Nova Kaiser wouldn't do as much damage as Armageddon.
I bet Yu could have fucked his boipussy if he wanted to
It depends
If we asume that personas are equal to smt demons joker could just summon true-end satanel and sinfull shell his sory ass
Door-kun might have some chance with solo fusion spells. Joker ant Tatsuya should at least put some fight
SMT4A confirms magic build.
Have you played SMT?
Forget Persona MCs, I want to know how strong Abel (MC) from Devil Survivior 1 is. Sure he summons demons with a COMP but he has to be reasonably strong since on one route he and atsuro, etc defeat the end boss without demons.
Depends which one would have plot-armor.
Nanashi :^)
true but Armageddon is not a sure fire way to kill something
Hell Philemon blocks it if you use it against him and counters with his own more powerful version
That's because of that Harmonizer effect from their COMPs reducing damage taken from demons and increasing the damage they do to demons. Probably makes Abel stronger than usual against Demifiend, but Hero/Aleph being pure-human with guns would fuck him up in a fight.
Apparently Nyx from P3 is the cause of every demon/super natural thing in the entire series, so the same could be said about anything from SMT.
>No Name
>Persona
You joking?
The real question is who would win in a dance competition between all Megaten characters? I say it's between Aleph and Abel.
do I have really to explain the joke?
He isn't unbeatable, at the very least
That's just some retconned Q&A from a random person on the dev team slapped into the end of a fan anthology book before P3FES even came out.
Didn't even take until the other games for them to retcon almost everything they said there in FES.
Pretty sure even SMT1 hero could mop the floor with any Persona protagonist, even the good ones.
>No Nocturne sequel with DF and Dante going on wacky adventures
...
>Guns
>Most likely Nuclear
Worst case Personaguy uses Yoshitsune and they stare each other down until the end of eternity
Dude unlocked hidden potential in himself the moment he starts the game, and ends up as a dude who's casually able to crush rocks with his bare hands.
I get the feeling P3-P5's main characters could get beaten and mugged by 2-3 regular thugs in the real world.
>Implying Yu and Potter couldn't mug anyone they wanted if they felt like it.
Orobas
All guns can actually hurt Demi-fiend. Masakados only nullified damage types that were available in Nocturne. In DDS, he could be harmed with guns and tera spells.
Did you forget that freikugel is almighty?
>3
>mugged
Dude is the only one in current persona to use his personas outside of the cognitive world of the entry, plus tartarus doesn't fuck with the perception thing like 5 does.
>guy who survived a demon apocalypse with no magic
>the usage of a comp already solves numbers
>dude is as strong as late game protags in smt4a
If anything he'd wipe the floor with half of the mainline fuckers. That's not a fair comparison.
>could oranges beat apples at X? XD
Is this your way to deal with how Persona dethroned SMT as the Atlus darling? No, no Persona MC even comes near Demifiend's power. Now what?
So did the cast of DDS, and they were a random encounter for Demi-fiend.
MC looks like a pretty lanky shit but people seem to forget he beat the fuck out of a gang of dudes in Yukari's social link with no special powers.
Are we talking pitting them against each other with all their broken game abilities in a technical battle, or a story powerlevel match?
Because I don't think Persona users can break Masakados + Friekrugel + Pierce
In the story it's hard to tell. This is a random guess but I think Kagetshuchi is about as tough as Yaldaboath. And after you beat him he unleashes a big attack that knocks the party down. I think that would be comparable to Kagetsuchi's ultimate light attack.
Demi is much stronger.
Well even then don't be retarded and think stronger = better character. Fucking powerlevel fags are the worst. I like Demifiend a lot but he's much more of a blank slate than even Persona MCs.
And Demi-fiend got killed.
Yu is a fag but Door and especially Joker can kick some ass
>he's much more of a blank slate than even Persona MCs
Nothing can possibly top Door-kun in terms of being a blank slate, come on.
Magic build is canon one, user.
Nanashi is Velvet Room attendant from Persona 1 and 2.
Power level arguments are dumb but I do wonder how strong a persona would be in SMT. There's practically no limit to how strong they can grow.
>Yu a fag
>But not Door
Come on now.
If the Embryon could, then probably, but like when the Embryon beat him, it would require that he fuck up completely.
That's like saying Demifiend didn't do anything, it as the Magatama.
Whats also funny is that the music is just the standard random encounter music from SMT3.
He considers the fight a random encounter.
pixie to uber pixie scale.
If anything it scales with mc strength and mcs in mainline/non persona get broken
>Alice
>demon that's absent from Nocturne
Really?
Yu pretty much lost to Yosuke (getting draw against smaller faggy guy), Door actually could beat some thugs to save Yukari
Who's that?
Magatamas and his cute demon crew
What's the best version of SMT2?
The demifiend
>Comparing any persona to a pixie
Now your just not giving them enough credit. Persona's are easily stronger than most demons your encounter through SMT until you reach the big name ones.
>demi-fiend lost to a random encounter
he does it enough in nocturne, so that is actually pretty in-character.
Playstation if you know moon, otherwise you're SOL and have to stick to the SNES version.
The kid who punched a god
>canon
That's an alt universe Demi, that doesn't confirm anything. Compare Flynn's moveset with the Flynn in the DLC. Does DLC Flynn override story Flynn in terms of canon?
Tatsuya did it first, smtfriends btfo
Apparently he's played more SMT than you have.
Name 1 (ONE) JRPG where the final boss isn't some kind of god.
With party?
Tatsuya/Maya
Why didn't he have magic anyway? Or I suppose the better question is, why did the other party members have magic? It's very odd when the Chaos Hero gets the shit beat out of him and complains that he's too weak when he can just set anyone in his way on fire.
Final Fantasy 3.
...
Radiant Historia didn't have a God for the final boss, as I recall. Neither does Raidou 1, but they still call the final boss a God even though it is absolutely not one.
Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
Every ending and then some is an alt universe. It's the same Flynn in the DLC, except he took too long doing neutral sidequests and got swallowed up by a black hole.
Just like the Hero who died is one that didn't get rescued from the nukes and Aleph is one that didn't get to space in time to stop the Megido Ray from annihilating Earth's population.
It doesn't make all that much sense. Like, there's even cases like Devil Summoner 1, where Kyouji Kuzunoha has a ridiculous list of spells he can cast, and when your main character possesses his body, he never can use magic again.
It gets kinda weirder though how SMT4 and 4A keep treating it like your main character exclusively uses a sword. As if they never use physical demon skills, magic, or even guns.
Aren't all of the suikoden games fairly small scale.
Yeah, exactly. SMT is a series with no definite canon. It's a bunch of what If... scenarios with a few exceptions.
So why is it that SMTfags hate Persona but like the other spinoffs? Is it so hard to like both?
Trails in the Sky
I like both. SMT is there for press turn and Persona is there for dating sim and characters.
Because Persona is now far more popular than SMT mainline.
Other spinoffs are fun personally. I don't like social aspects and rather dungeon crawl.
This guy gets it
Probably because other spinoffs are more like SMT.
P3 and P4 were dark times with those shitty non-dungeons and heavy dating sim elements.
He was using pretty shitty demons though
Every Trails game except Azure
Every single Mario RPG
Every Pokemon game
MOTHER 3
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Why did you single out PoR? Most FE games don't have Gods as main antagonists.
Demifiend isn't even the strongest protaginist. He barely beat a Lucifer that was holding back to test him while Flynn and Nanashi outright killed Lucifer.
>girimekala, cu, pixie, titania, arahabaki, and parvati
arguable. not the best nocturne had to offer but he still has good taste.
It's mostly just contrarianism. Not to say Persona is flawless, there's plenty of good reasons to dislike it, but it's mostly just people who dislike it because it's popular. It doesn't help that a lot of resources go towards Persona, so even people who are indifferent to Persona will be upset with it because it kind of feels like they're being robbed of an SMT with higher prodcution values.
Aleph did too.
Demifiend's maybe in Raidou/Abel range of just being tested by Lucifer.
Him ruling the throne of Bel makes him top tier in terms of power.
I suppose every FE Game except for Gaiden/Echoes, Sacred Stones, Radiant Dawn, and Fates would count
Bel is barely on Lucifer's radar though.
SMT
the stronger dragons in FE are worshipped as gods in most of the games. you can argue if they really count or not. Not counting them, the only true god in FE was Ashera and possibly Fomortiis.
The other spinoffs don't pander to waifufags nearly as hard. SMTfags hate P3-5 because the actual dungeon crawling and demon fusion is largely secondary to the social sim elements. Doesn't help they pretty much lack the dark overtones the other games are known for either.
>Needing magic when you can shoot a man
Yeah, but you have to remember that the Lucifer Demi fought and the Lucifer Nanashi/Flynn fight are two completely different beings, just how the Tokyo in these games are different places with different circumstances. Also, Nanashi had help from his friends, "Flynn", and an army of suicidal idiots to kill Lucifer.
>shooting a man when you throw him out of a plane