Paid mods 1.0

>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums
>Paid mods 2.0
>Nearly no one defending
Gee I wonder what's different? Oh yeah, Valve isn't directly involved, Pcbros will literally eat shit out of Gabe's ass if he asked.

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Fuck off plebian scum. Only 500 Bethesda FunBux for backpacks???????? Talk about a steal!!!

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>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums

>horse armor

Fucking no one was defending it here you retard.

>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums

>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on /v
Do you seriously expect me to sit here and listen to your newfag opinion?

>1.0 defending
>when valve had to cancel the idea due to the backlash
There was an attempt.

Absolutely fucking no one wants paid mods. They didn't want it when Valve tried, and when they put out that announcement saying they'd try it again later people were still angry. If you want to support a creator donate to them directly for fuck's sake.

you're not buying mods you're buying credits which you can just so happen to buy mods with

its going to flop really really hard

Everymod on nexus is STILL free

Thats literally the same thing

no one ever defended this shit other than nexus shills trying to get people to buy their mods that use copyrighted content.

It's not going to flop. It's going to be a marketplace full of hats and horse armor for $1-5 each and it will be very profitable.

have they said you can buy other stuff with the credits? like new music?

It's worse. Credits don't let you buy an exact amount, and you don't get your money back once you spend any of it on credits.

You weren't herewhen valve did that shit it seems, everybody hated that bullshit.

I'm surprised we're not buying chests and paying credits to buy lockpicks with a chance that ith will open

There's literally nothing wrong with this, capitalism means that people putting the effort into their work have the right to be compensated, you're not entitled to anything for free, this is how capitalism works. Don't like it? Go back to China you commie bastard because you don't deserve freedom.

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Fuck off Pete Hines

Paid mods are great unironically and only brazillian poorfags complained. It's the optimum way to encourage new modders by including a monetary incentive, it's basic economics.

You're fucking retarded

mods for games have been working fine without any compensation of any sort for over 25 years because the mod makers did it out of hobby and enjoyment rather than for profit.

There were literally 10 contrarian shitposters defending it.

>implying anyone defended that shit the first time
it was retarded then and it's retarded now

But we are entitled to freedom of speech which is exactly what is happening in this thread you damn commie

I was against it on both counts.

Here comes the faggots and shills trying to make shit up as if people don't remember what actually happened.
People all over the fucking internet complained about the paid mods, the Steam forums went insade with complaints and emails.
Steam gave a public apology for it and said they would take better care of whatever comes up next so that would not repeat.
Stop fucking spreading these stupid lies.

Nice try Bethesda, you can fuck off now.

Modders should be encouraged by their love for their game not fucking money.
This kind of shit will always lead to jewish tactics

>mfw people think this isn't on purpose

>Mods offered will work together
>Which means there can never be any mods that make heavy use of scripts or try to modify the same content (like combat)

It's not like based nippon modders that actually put out the quality armors are going to be participating, so I guess they are just expecting to lock down the console mod market.

Actually, that could be a positive for it - it would mean modders wouldn't have idiots with consoles spamming them when someone else ports their mod to the console mod download place without checking for compatibility.

UHHHH

GUYS

IT'S NOT PAID MODS OKAY

No one defended paid mods ever, that's the reason Valve dropped them
Here's your (You) you massive faggot.

>Paid mods 1.0
>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums

>its not paid mods
>but its paid mods

>>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums
Yea, so many people defended it that Valve realized it was a bad idea after three days of introducing it

>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums
what????

Fuck off retard.
Sage

You're right but most people are STILL in denial about how terrible Valve has become

It's just them saying that these "mods" are going to be polished up (and by Bethesda standards that means shit) and that you can still use free mods.
TL;DR: no you moron those are still paid mods

There are people still in denial?

he was being sarcastic

AT FIRST I WAS SKEPTICAL

>monetary incentives don't work lmao you should just do it for the art dude

dumb commie

>SEE GUYS YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE MODS THEMSELVES BUT FOR E-CURRENCY TO BUY THE MODS WITH SO YOU'RE NOT TECHNICALLY PAYING FOR THE MODS
>mfw

You're fucking retarded

paid mods objectively made mods WORSE because people were churning out literal dogshit for pennies on the dollar

>Steam greenlight and Early Access are great unironically and only brazillian poorfags complained. It's the otpimum way to encourage new game devs by including a monetary incentive, it's basic economics.

>we really care about the modding community
>but guys, FUCK YOU
>and guys? FUCK YOU AGAIN
what were they thinking?

At first I was a bit skeptical about the whole Creation Club announcement but when I read through their official website, it seems like this is a way for them to try and improve mods and make them better.

They will have quality control, collaboration between the game devs and the mod authors and a bunch of other procedures and guidelines.

I can't wait for the exciting new mods that will come out from this system. Its gonna bring polish and better integration for mods as a whole.

I am really excited.

Mods are free. If you want to get paid, make your own game. Simple. In fact, we're getting into hippie commie territory with these faggots piggybacking off of successful people's work.

you're fucking retarded

>do something that wasn't requested for you to do
>NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY ME FOR IT
that's called self-entitlement

Literally no sane person was defending it the first time around.

If you want to give an incentive to get people to do mods for your game then there's two options that have worked in the past.
>Mod spotlight - literally pick a mod the dev-team really likes and show it off on the menu of the game
>Use your own fucking money - like a modder? Give them a fucking job, or pay them out of your own pocket.

Most mod devs have a little patreon/donation button anyway these days. Why the fuck would anybody go through the hassle of paying a third party too for "curating"?

It's alright kid, maybe one day you'll actually do something with your life instead of trying to piggy back off of a developer's game. Hey, maybe you can try to make a Nintendo ripoff like a good little cuckold next!

Have you ever heard about SureAI ? These guys made two total conversions: Nehrim (for Oblivion) and Enderal (for Skyrim). These mods are professional tier level created by people that loved the original games and wanted to share it with other people. No money was involved.
TL;DR monetary incentive is worth shit

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>Quality control by Bethesda
These fucks can't even do QA on their own fucking games.

>paid mods objectively made mods WORSE
Then don't buy them retard. Let the market do it's job
>Steam greenlight and Early Access are great unironically

They are. Some of my favourite games came from Early Access. Again, don't buy them if you don't want them faggot.
>In fact, we're getting into hippie commie territory with these faggots piggybacking off of successful people's work.
Not unless the original copyright holder sanctions it. Or are you against IP law as well?

What I find especially sad is that no one has even blinked an eye at having microtransactions in a full-price game, regardless of their source. I think this is the first iteration of that for Bethesda besides paid mods 1.0.

To the people arguing with Bethesda "fans". Please stop wasting your breath. There are literally paid Bethesda astroturfing on Sup Forums right now.

>waah Im poor
>waah why do I have to support people who make stuff I enjoy
>Im entitled for it

Fuck off kids and get a job. Mods are dirt cheap and those devs need the money

Or they could just not lock all that information behind the creation club? They could just say "if you want to mod our games, here's the basics/creation kit, and an email you can use if you have any questions about how things work."

The exciting new mods will still be exciting new mods that work well regardless of whether or not this shit exists. And the trashy porn mods probably aren't in-depth enough to need it. Only one modder needs to be in the creation club making content it seems, and they could just filter tutorials/help people outside it anyway.

>underageb& is so retarded he quotes me when I'm the one calling people faggots for wanting paid mods.
Good god. I literally cannot imagine Sup Forums getting any worse.

Eh, I have nothing else to do right now.

Are you fucking retarded? they cant fucking fix the bugs in their own fucking games and you believe they are going to sit and waste time and money helping random programes learning on the go? fucking denial dude, this is a quick bucks grav nothing more, just as it was with valve before.

>quotes me
its not you, its me faggot

>same copy and paste every thread

>It's not paid mods
>You just have to pay us for credits so you can pay for your mods
>No, I s-s-swear. It's t-t-t-totally not paid m-m-mods

Modders create stuff because they love the game not because they want to be paid you Bethesda-drone

I'm not even sure it's astroturfing, I think there are just that many people out there trolling for (you)s

Hilarious. They are acting as if they will give a better modding "experience"... oh but for a fee.

Someone post Gaben being BTFO when he said "Money is used to guide the industry" when talking about paid mods.

>someone makes a product
>someone sees it and makes it better and people buy it


literally capitalism. the draconian "u cant maek mony off orther people's "INTELCUTALS" property is socialist dogshit.

Nobody was defending it on Sup Forums the first time around, I wish this meme would die.

Except it didn't. Steam was ridden with nothing but shit mods, stolen shit and scams galore

There is no place for paid mods anywhere

you should still argue with them, so random normies dont think 'oh the hive mind is cool with it'. Never EVER just 'ignore' shills and hope they go away. They literally want you to ignore them so they can create a narrative to their own liking.

Hardly anyone uses those Patreon things or donation buttons. Some guy had 470,000 downloads and a lifetime donation amount of like 60 pounds. Gamers don't pay for shit.

That's one of the worst criticisms being thrown out. Last time it was literally "pull your mod off nexus and charge for it on the workshop" making it literally pay for shit that used to be free. Now its "nobody will ever mod for free again."

Can't wait to pirate all these mods.

...

Do you really think modders do it for money ?

is that why any mods made on the store have to be entirely original and cannot build off of anything that someone else in the community has made?

they sure as hell haven't for 25 years

If you want to charge someone for something you should be able to
If you want to charge someone for something that was previously free fuck you that's scummy

the gray area comes in when criticism of a shit product is easily silenced, and the potential for stealing someone else's free mod, and then charging for it is already so high

The irony is, bethesda's mod store is going to have to be tightly moderated to prevent the above two.
Possibly so much so that they lose money on it

I don't give what a fuck they do it for, if they want to make money then it's none of my fucking business.

Their newest game is F4, and the Skyrim fad is wearing off.
No reason to give a damn anymore, but oh well i don't like it either.

>The irony is, bethesda's mod store is going to have to be tightly moderated to prevent the above two.
doubtful I think they underestimate how easy it is to steal mods

meme magic is real guys

>Loads of people defending it on Sup Forums
Want to know how we know you weren't here for that?

We are talking about Bethesda here. These incompetent fucks can't even do their games properly. How can anyone expect them to manage QA on an even bigger scale ?

You can shut up now

listen faggots, i dont agree with paid mods but I also dont agree with you dipshits labeling everything as communism. Stop using words you dont understand.

Have you seen the shit with Valve paid mods ? (half-assed stolen shit)
This will happen to Bethesda as well if this becomes a reality.

See that mod over there?....

You can buy it.

My point, the unfortunate side is that even if it "fails" bethesda is still going to make money off of stolen mods

Shut up Todd member. Real discussion here

>tightly moderated
We'll see. I imagine as time goes on, especially when they release they next Gamebryo game that it will be almost a completely open market. The only things that will be moderated will be items infringing on other corporate licenses. People that steal free mods and put them up for pay will go unnoticed until a massive shitstink can happen on social media.

It's not unlike google play store at the moment. Many people just rip and modify APKs and throw them back up onto google and see the original creator get nothing, having to go through several hoops to even get to talk to a human representative from google to look into it.

This is just ripe for shady central.

And, as always, the real modders will put their stuff in for free while the people that spend 3 hours to model a dragon dildo will charge for it.

How's this any different from before? How did that affect anything? It didn't. Neither will this.