Not developed by Retro

>not developed by Retro

Give me 4 reasons I should care

Because nobody else does. This game is gonna flop so hard. Its all generated hype from people who've never picked up a Metroid game.

I wonder how it'll turn out. Will they fuck it up or will it actually be a decent game? Personally I doubt it'll measure up to 1 and 2, but it'll be on par with 3.

Sonic Mania isn't Sonic Team.
Dark Souls 2 is FromSoft team B.
Super Princess Peach is the best Mario game in the last decade.
Halo 5 has objectively the best multiplayer of the entire series.

Because a no name Studio guided by a Nintendo veteran created Metroid prime 1

Because many of the devs who worked for Retro during GC days no longer work for Retro who could have been contacted to help form this new team and MP4 still has the same producer as the rest of the prime games. it also means we have another good game to look forward to

You shouldn't. Metroid Prime got worse with every title.

Because you're a fucking moron that doesn't know how to think for himself so you blindly love Retro without even realizing Retro's team has completely changed over the last 5-10 years.

Please don't use motion controls.

sup dobson

False. 3 > 2

Because Tanabe is leading the development

>Halo 5 has objectively the best multiplayer of the entire series.

Metroid Prime was Retro's first proper game.
Metroid Prime 4 will be this new team's first proper game.

Nintendo doesn't get Metroid Prime. They have no idea why it was successful. They don't know why Japs hate it and why the West loves it. Nintendo should have worked on Metroid 2 and handed this to another dev.

Do not associate my opinion with a washed up furry internet comic please.

good, so it might be good this time.

Wrong. 2 > 1

>Dark Souls 2
>Halo 5

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nintendo was the only reason the first prime was good. 2 and 3 arent as good as the original because nintendo wasnt as involved.

>Super Princess Peach is the best Mario game in the last decade.
Super Princess Peach came out 12 years ago.

>Metroid Prime
>3d
>by literal whos

I'm not saying you shouldn't be wary, but no one had any reason to think the first Prime would be anything but a dumpster fire.

Because it's a first party nintendo first person shooter about an alien bounty hunter

If it gets even half of the tlc that breath of the wild and odyssey got it'll be worth it

>Super Princess Peach came out 12 years ago.

>Nintendo's newer blood has proven themselves more than once already
>Retro had to start somewhere, too
>Nintendo reaches out to basically any authority they can when developing games anyway
>We know it's actually coming out and there's no kickstarter or episodic shit or 2021 release date

Some of the original Metroid 2 dev were called to work on Samus Return despite it being made by somebody who never worked with Nintendo before

I think Nintendo will do the same for Prime.

2 is a rehash of the first with annoying backtracking, how the fuck is it better than the original experience which has barely any filler at all?

This

Retro made the "meh" Dong King on WiiU. And they've had a lot of staff leaving since MP3

Its not better. Im willing to bet money that 2 was the first one he played

Wonder how long it will take to make. Retro put together Prime in like a year and a half.

Because we don't know who is developing it.
It still might turn out to be good since Sakomoto and his OtherM-salt is busy with the 3DS game

>2 isn't as good as 1

Miyamoto likes Prime at least.

You realize the people who worked on Prime left Retro long ago, right?

>"meh"
Nigga, Tropical Freeze is god-tier.

>Halo 5 has objectively the best multiplayer of the entire series.

>Metroid 4 could have 4-player split-screen to cash in on the Goldeneye nostalgia
The setting already has space marines. It wouldn't take much effort to put in multiplayer features similar to pre-2003 console shooters. Imagine it. Just imagine.

>Dark Souls 2 is FromSoft team B
And it fucking showed.

>Dark Souls 2

Several key members left, but there are at least a dozen artists, designers, engineers, etc who have worked there since the Prime days.

We already got Federation Force

go play cawlahdooty somewhere else

Wrong thread bucko.

>tfw you welcome most changes that might be brought it, but then remember that Nintendo cannot make a good female character without turning her into a slut

I still remember Metroid: Other M, and how useless she was in Federation Force. Worst case scenario, Prime 4 is a dating sim where Samus is helpless because daddy adam didn't authorize her to go on dates.

Actually Metroid Prime's development isn't as straight forward as Sup Forums claims

>Assets and programming made by EAD
>R&D1 handling art and design
>Retro handling engineering and sound design
>Story and such collaborative between all 3

Prime was thrown together in like 2 years or so, from concepts made a year or so prior to development, and Retro had to cancel their 4 other prototypes to assist with the project.

There are far better examples
>DKC made by Rare, not Nintendo
>Fall Out New Vegas vs. FO3/4
>F-Zero GX made by Sega

Need I remind you that Retro was a literally who company before they made Metroid Prime?

I really hope Retro's artists help on Prime 4, their art direction is god-tier.

They were all directed by Mark Pacini too, but he's shown that he's not the reason they were good with his latest titles.

1. The people that made Prime don't work at Retro anymore, giving it to them would likely not make a good game.

2. The Prime series needs to try something new after Retro's mistakes with Prime 2 and 3 and a new developer is more then likely to be able to do that.

3. It could be any number of studios or it could be a completely new studio looking to prove itself. Retro was completely new when it made Prime, no previous experience at all. The best way to get the same magic that Prime 1 had is to go with new blood.

4. IT'S FUCKING METROID! At least look at it when we get more info. Don't be kicking yourself years later when it turns out to be a great game and you missed all the discussion and "Man, I don't know where to go".

Tropical Freeze is literally the bet DK game made to this day. Hell, I'd even go so far to say that it's almost better than DKC 1 and 2 combined. And this is coming from someone who grew up with the SNES.

Multiplayer worked pretty well in MP2 and MP:H. If Prime 4 is about Sylux, then they very well could bring back the other Hunters for multiplayer.

Kinda gives me the impression that Nintendo doesn't trust Retro unless they've got a blueprint to work off
>Make Metroid games like we showed you
>Make DK games like we showed Rareware

Wonder if this is why their supposed game is MIA

false flag

1. Is false. The people who made Prime great still work at Retro. The people who left went on to make ReCore for the XBone, and look how well that game went. It's safe to say that Retro is still as talented as ever.

2. Prime 2 was great, and Prime 3's only real problems came from using shitty motion controls too much. Prime 3 on an actual controller via Dolphin is great.

3. Fair point.

4. So was FedForce, Fusion, and Other M. Metroid has had some clunkers in the past.

This is objectively true. People who claim the original DKC are better are blinded by nostalgia. They are excellent games, but just can't compete.

>DK like we showed rare
spoken like someone who hasn't played returns/TF and the classics back to back. both are great takes on the same concept, but far different from one another

People said the same about the first Prime. Stop sucking Retro's dick. Last Metroid they did was 10 years ago and all the key people left. Let them do their own thing now.

>4. IT'S FUCKING METROID!
Metroid hasn't had a single good game for about 20 years.

>Fusion

Has the best bosses in the series. Not to mention, it manages to get tension down pretty damn well.

>Developed by some random no name "retro studio" instead of R&D

Why should i care about this generic fps? Ill just buy fusion

Metroid Prime is 15 years old you humongous fucking pleb

Also
>zero mission
>fusion

Gtfo of here you retard

too bad it's too casual. It wouldn't even be fit to stand by Super Meat boy.

Never played a metroid game, where should I star???

None of those are good, your point?

Both country returns and tropical freeze are probably the best platformers of theyr respective gen, some of the best of all time you no taste scrub

Anyways it doesnt change the fact that mp4 can still be great without retro

Those are literally all the best games in the series besides Super you faggot

Will they bring Andrew Jones back?

>he's one of those contrarians who believes the orginal metroid is better than zero mission
Who are you trying to impress?

Prime 2 started being incoherent in it's level design and did things which slowed down the player to ridiculous levels and enemies that just weren't fun to fight. Prime 3 had even more problems of levels just feeling like set pieces and powers that were only ever used in one or two locations and never again, like welding. Not to mention even MORE slowing down the player.

Metroid's mistakes shouldn't mean that you completely over look the game before you even know anything about it. Fans saw gameplay of Fed Force and Other M and knew they would be shit from that point.

Your equivalent would be people shitting on Other M because they hate Team Ninja as a developer before they have even seen a trailer. Also fuck you, Fusion is an amazing game that had it's purpose, not all Metroid games need to be freeform find the way games with sequence breaking to be 8/10 games. If that was the case then people wouldn't like Metroid 2 at all, but the game is solid.

I'd say that Prime has better bosses. While the bosses in Prime are over all easier, they are also extremely different from one another, giving much needed variety in how you take them on.

Also, Super has better bosses individually, even if how you take them on gets pretty samey, other than Kraid and Crocomire.

You have terrible taste.

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t. never played the game

1) Because most Prime staff left for Armature, Bluepoint, Valve, or other video companies
2) It's Metroid
3) It's Metroid Prime
4) Fuck You.

You realize the Metroid Prime 4 developers and Retro Studios are literally on different sides of the globe, right?

t. likely struggles while playing uncharted

Fuck off trip loser

>Retro made the "meh" Dong King on WiiU
>"meh" DK
>Returns & Tropical Freeze
Consider Sudoku

They're literally just the same concept with modern twists, don't oversell it

To further clarify Akintunde Omitowoju now works for Nintendo helping external studios, so he would be working with Retro but as a Nintendo internal staff.

It is going to be developed by Bungie. Calling it now.

Why do people think either of the Metroid games will be good? Are they this deluded by blind hype?

I often see the 'loads of people left Retro' thing mentioned.
They still churned out DK Tropical Freeze which was one of the best games on the wii u and in a significant number of peoples opinion, the best DK game ever.

Bungie is not an internal studio

Then what is Retro making?

I played 1 first. I just think Prime 2 has a better world and enemies, as well as more interesting power-ups. I also don't mind the backtracking or the key hunt.

>I often see the 'loads of people left Retro' thing mentioned.
See

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The point wasn't that they never left, the point was that Retro still made great games without them.

1. Me
2. troid
3. Prime
4. 4

bunch of designers left retro so it doesnt matter.

considering its being made by a new team of younger nintendo employees (see zelda, slatoon, ARMS) im pretty sure itll be as great if not better than the original prime game.

why is everyone pissed that Retro isnt doing this, yet at the same time like to say that prime 2 and 3 sucked? lmao theyre donkey kong devs now, and good riddance to that

donkey kong 3, like they want to

>2 is a rehash of the first
???

Retro was an absolute mess at the time of Metroid Prime. They ran porn sites from their office computers and employees were embezzling money left and right. Of course Nintendo didn't trust them.

Yes, but they made good platformers. We don't even know if the ones that are left even want to make an FPS, let alone Prime. Many of them in interviews seem kind of miffed at Prime actually and want to get away from it. Forcing them to work on the series because their studio had a hand in it's original development doesn't seem like a good way to get the product we want.

Oh shit, same designers are Splatoon and the ones that helped for BotW? We are going to get some crazy ideas for this one. I hope levels have more vertical aspects. That's one thing the series lacked from the 2d games, the big rooms that you could use things like Shinespark to cross. Prime always felt mostly cramped and even when you were in a large area you still didn't go very high. I guess they were too worried about falling.

>prime 2
>moving slow
You're doing it wrong.

>Music not by David Wise

Doubtful

All I need is one: Star Fox Zero.

Nintendo's first party games have been hit or miss lately, so taking it upon themselves to make Prime 4 doesn't guarantee quality.

>They ran porn sites from their office computers

Source?

Nintendo makes better games than Retro.