Are VNs games?

Are VNs games?

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no

Yes despite what Sup Forums says

They don't know shit and never had sex

Are there criteria for winning and losing? Do they bring people fun? If so, it's a game. If nothing you do has any impact on the story, then no, they aren't.

Just because they technically qualify as a game doesn't mean that they qualify as a good game, though.

If they have bad routes were you lose sure

I'd say so. But most of this board will cry and say it isn't tho

They are called visual novels for a reason, otherwise they would just be called video games....which they arent.

They are on steam that means that they ARE games

Nope.

Cant you buy movies and music off steam too? Are those games?

That's just Americans being stupid because there are so many words it must be a novel
In Japan they are literally called adventure games

Yes.

telltale games, and things like heavy rain are essentially visual mini-novels, with the term 'game' labeled on them, but that makes them games right?

You just want to talk about vns

So which one?

Some of them are

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Persona games are literally VNs with gameplay

Visual novels ARE games

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That's more of a case or JRPGs being JRPGs. Most of them have gigantic walls of texts, then add some gameplay to it.

Just take the Sen no Kiseki series, for example.

So it has no gameplay and its still a game you think? LOL

VN are only games if they have game elements.
Puzzles, action, even dating sims are games. But if it is only choosing which branch of the story you want to read than it is not a game.

If you have autism yes

name one thing that can't be a game
for me, vn's are games
outside an autistic mind they are what people agree to
belief changes reality, like in planescape torment
which is a vn, means that life acts like a vn,... continuing that thought would lead to a bad end though

You can buy anime too

Your post doesn't make sense. Are you okay?

cringe

>Are VNs games?
Some are. Some aren't.

Absolutely. By the way, what do you think of my new submarine? Pic related, just bought it on sale.

whats a good visual novel? I've been wanting to play one and havent played one before. not interested in higurashi or the cripple grills game

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Cho Dengeki Stryker or some early KEY stuff like Kanon or AIR are a good starting point in my opinion. I suggest using a guide for KEY stuff though.

The answer used to be "no," but then people started calling non-novel games "VNs" (case in point ) causing the answer to become "yes."
The term means so many different genres now it's basically useless.

It's a game if you do more than just go through text boxes with little or no choices involved. The PW series and Zero Escape are games, Steins;Gate and Higurashi are not.

Please Bang My Wife.

Yes, but this one really should have been an actual game.

Pick any

They are if they're incredibly good

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I dunno, generally not. Some visual novels do have gameplay segments, but classic VN with choices being the only interaction element, I'd be hard-pressed to call games. Though maaaaybe you can make case for something with tons of branching and flags, like Clannad? But that's the extent of what you can do with only choices.
Now, dating sims are not visual novels. Neither are eroge like Rance or Kamidori, so those should not be used as example of "visual novels have gameplay!"

This doesn't mean they are bad, they can still be totally enjoyable, and can have great stories.

YU-NO is an adventure game.

Sup Forums will shitpost hardcore if you try to discuss Yu-no though

No. I like them more though.

yu-no is trash
>everything that happens before the epilogue is meaningless
>mc fucks his 3 year old daughter

>>everything that happens before the epilogue is meaningless
>he didn't get it

Does anyone here have a link to pirate the Grisaia games after Kajitsu? None of nyaa's successors seem to have them.

>3deep5u
amazing 10/10 game

>That girl that became slice-of-life Lucina

:^)

are there any good time travelling vn's? Already got through S;Gs

See

They're not called that in Japan 'VN' is just a meme term which the EOPs invented.

Are VNs made buy non-Japanese still VNs?

>EOPs
Oh my fuck I can't believe that term actually caught up. My instincts tell me life shouldn't be this horrible.

Left out the canibalism and vast amount of incest

>vast amount
Man, you sure are mad about that

no.

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>tfw I actually bought the remake
It's not as bad as I thought it would be