Why do sonybros want to drag everyone down to their level?

Why do sonybros want to drag everyone down to their level?

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Here's what's funny: Because Microsoft adopted the mantra of "absolute power", they also adopted the responsibilty for cases when developers don't use it.

So if Assassins Creed or whatever actually looks and feels the same on Pro and XboneX (30fps/4K) because the devs can't be arsed to put in the extra work, it'll be Microsofts's fault for lying about their hardware.

Phil fucked up yet again unless he pays out to publishers to make xbone the definitive version, but considering Sony has double the market share they'll have to look hard for people taking that deal.

this reminds me of MS's ''parity contracts'' they are/ were forcing down on developers' throats

karma's a bitch

that's what I've been asking consolefags for years

if you think they are every going to spend any amount of dev time devoted to a console with 0 userbase over a console with 60 million install base, you are deluding yourself

MS is making long game moves to try to force sony to break, they know xbone 2.0 wont sell, thats why all xbone 2.0 games run on 1.0. its just a gimmick, there is no real 4k either, the analysis proved its not native 4k and just checkerboarding, because literally nothing runs at 4k at 60 fps on PC without a fucking 1000-2000+ PC

>How Sony could stop Xbox One X from achieving its true potential

Well Sony already did with Destiny 2. Bungie already confirmed that it will be locked to 30 fps on XboneX.

The funny thing is they said that and after that confirmed that they haven't even tried running the game on Xbox One X yet. They haven't done any work on that version whatsoever, but already knew what it was gonna be running at. Blatant moneyhatting.

It's not Sony, it's console retards in general. The people that understand or care about the differences will just get a PC instead anyway. M$ just played a (another) dumb move.

>$500 for XBONE 1.01
Sony doesn't need to do anything.

X only exists to upsell the 20 million diehard xbox retards in america who already shelled out for multiple 360s last gen, a day one xbone this gen and the S version too

the price tag doesn't even matter, people who pay $400 for a console with no purpose will also pay $500 or $600

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60 million player base.
>thinking devs won't design their games around that in mind
>$500 for the same experience as the Pro
>with no actual exclusives
Only thing Xbox did right this E3 was more backwards compatibility. Sony should follow their example.

I'm pretty sure the devs know more about the limitations of their engine and assets than you.

I don't see it. I mean the xbox one was weaker than the base PS4 so they made games run at 720p on the xbox and 900/1080p on the ps4. Why wouldn't they just do the same for the xbox one x / ps4 pro?

Why are sonybros so upset that this game wont be on PS4 and pretending like the reason they hate is because of gamergate?

They probably will, but the difference will be 2k30fps upscaled to 4K instead of 1080p30fps upscaled to 4K with maybe more fps drops, and not 4K60 native compared to 1080p30fps.
It's pretty much negligible.

Already confirmed it's the shitty CPU though. The same reason nothing is 60FPS on PS4pro.

>First HD DVD
>Now this

WILL SONY EVER STOP HALTING PROGRESSION?

>losing horrifically
>rush to make a more powerful console
>no games for the new console

Unironically confirmed to be the Microsoft dreamcast.

It's 30fps for compatibility with the normal Xbox. Why would anyone think they would let multiplayer games run at a higher framerate?

I could pirate it on my 2012 toaster if I wanted to lmao. It ain't shit.

I'll never understand why you sonybros are so scared of the xox.
PS4 is underpowered, The pro is underpowered
Stop being chicken shit, we never thought your console was ever anything impressive

Bizarrely you seem to think destiny 2 running 4k/30 on xox is big win for PlayStation, yet the pro runs the same.

So how will you explain AC: Origin which also run at 30 or EA's Anthem which uses checkerboarding and dynamic 4k rather than Native 4k on Xbone X. This games don't have exclusivity deals with Sony. Instead of making retarded assumption why not look at obvious thing like game engine limitations or CPU bottlenecks....oh wait you are retard!

>Xbox much more powerful than PS2
>most multiplats looked the same
>PS2 still outsold it in similar fashion to current gen
It's not like we have any history to go of-

they write like they speak for the internet

>most multiplats looked the same
that's completely wrong, the multiplat differences were way bigger than ps4 vs xbox one or 360 vs ps3

>le 60m playerbase meme
worked out so well for blood borne didn't it? I mean come on the only games that get close to sniffing that player base are Fifa and cod

Am I the only one who always preferred Playstation over Xbox? Like I barely knew the original existed and barely gave a shit about the 360 outside of a few games.

>am I the only one who-
no.
all your kind are sonybros

>the limitations of their engine and assets
Haven't they already confirmed it'll be unlocked on the PC? Which means there's literally no reason it couldn't go higher than 30 on the XboneX unless it was a hardware issue?

For compatibility with older consoles.

God I miss the PS2/GC/Xbox/Dreamcast days where every console had something unique to bring to the table. Owning all four was fucking fantastic.

Slightly less so than the generation before it, but everything from the PS3/360-onward has just been the same box as the other guy with a new coat of paint.

Both are dead by next gen

because they've just been made irrelevant. pc is objectively the best platform to game on now after it's getting xbox one exclusives. 95% of all relevant games right there at your finger tips. if you don't like pc and want something that has midrange pc visuals for multiplats then the xbox one x is your only choice as everyone and their grandma knows the pro is hot garbage. even hardcore sony shills i know say it's trash. if you want to talk about purchasing a console for exclusives then they've been made irrelevant there again since nintendo are absolutely raping them when it comes to exclusive hype. nobody wants to play your shitty school social sim when mario odyssey exists and is by far the game with the most buzz right now.

>nintendo are absolutely raping them when it comes to exclusive hype
like Monster Hunter World?

monster hunter world is exclusive on ps4? source please

>Went from 85% tp 25% in eight years
wew

>60 million player base
>Only a percentage of that even buys PS4 games
Really gets the noggin joggin'...

>CALL OF
>GTA
>FIFA
>CALL OF
>FIFA
>Battlefield
Wew
Good enough Uncharted managed to be there.

Well, most are niggers, so it just comes naturally to them.

All the Xbox one games are exclusive to win10

That just proves that the PS4 install base isn't consolidated around one dev like in the case of nintendo platforms.

>he think people who buy a new iphone every year care about 500$ for a few years

...

Xbox one run on Windows 10, it's basically a Windows 10 machine icxm.net/x/satya-xbox-one-windows-computer.html

>60 million player base.
>only 2-3 millions actually have bought non yearly AAA multiplats since they got the system.
If you literally don't make cod or fifa, the PS4 is about as interesting as the WiiU

That's the dumbest post I've read all day. Granted I just woke up and I'm sure you'll be outdone, but kudos to you, man.

Now you realize that people buy PS4s for multiplas, wooooah crazy right, multiplats are games after all, and people want and WILL buy them on PS4!

>$500 for the same experience as the Pro
running at 60fps probably, not the same experience at all

It was bundled with consoles for a reason.

And here I thought exclusives were the only games that matter considering how autistic Sup Forums is about the subject. Funny how hard NeoGaf tries to defend their precious company.

>Playstation gets a good exclusive
>HAHAHA BTFO NEVER EVER XDDDD
>Game gets ported to something else
>Autistic screeching and change.org petitions
>Petition demanding that other people do not get to play the game too gets tens of thousands of responses


This is something unique to Sony fans and I don't understand how they ended up so spiteful and autistic.

2-3m is a shitload for non-annual AAA titles, user...

They're still recovering from when Nintendo supposedly "betrayed" Sony. Before this E3 I actually defended Sony fans a bit when threads would pop up about who the worst fanbase is, but I'm so fucking done with Sup Forums turning into NeoGaf.

That's where you're deluding yourself. Anything that runs at 60fps is also going to be 60fps on Pro because that's the baseline that devs are programming for. Maybe you meant 1440p60, which is a minimal upgrade considering.

>This is something unique to Sony fans and I don't understand how they ended up so spiteful and autistic.
You're just biased. Fanboys are everywhere. Have you not seen the amount of REEEE MonHunWorld threads the past few days?

im gonna enjoy your delicious tears xfags when this will be GOTY and yet again you guys gonna get banished to the land of never ever.ps4 and pc bros gonna enjoy the shit out of it though :^)

>downgrade pc game to run on pspro
>can run better on pc
>can run better on xboxonex
why dont you download some ram while you are at it? i cant wait for the wave of framerate doesnt matter, people are mad that dantes hair is white articles when the xboxonex is out

>GOTY
>literally this gen's Heavenly Sword
Shit's going to be forgotten in record speed.

Is this a Dragon Ball Z reference?

It's going to be the same shit as Arkham Knight on a wider scale. Have you not noticed the amount of PC ports being downgrades/held back by consoles this past gen?

God damn, this is low tier conspiracy theories, Sony doesn't have to do anything to the Bonex, regular consumers don't care about specs, and hardcore fans are gonna buy it due to loyalty brand.
But the regular consumer is the majority now, so you have to appeal to them, and 100 extra bucks doesn't seem like it's worth the effort.
Not to mention, if you already have a decent PC, you will get any Xbox exclusive, so MS doesn't have that many chips to bargain.

I thought that they learned their lesson about overpricing when the Bone launched.

>pixels of different size and bloom effects
>caved in to online pressure and apologized for making his game about a leftist dystopia and changed the plot because of tweets

Keep your numale mixel garbage

>Bringing unrelated GGaytor shit to flame the console war.
It's time to stop.

Legitimately the only fanbase I've seen do this shit. Everyone else is happy when other people get to enjoy a good game.

>How Sony could stop Xbox One X from achieving it's true potential
>Step one: Do nothing.

>Thinking any company will have multiplayer game run at 2 different framerates and have them play against each other
Retard.

>>Game gets ported to something else
>>Autistic screeching and change.org petitions
Literally never happened.

Sony fans only buy Sony platforms. They are not idorts. They won't even buy a Switch and generalize potential Switch buyers by projecting themselves on them and believe they will only buy one console.

Because Sony fans only stick with Sony game consoles exclusively, they feel personally threatened when things like Switch and Xbox One X come along. Sony fans to this day pretend that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 even though the 360 proved itself to be objectively better at playing video games. Sony fans get triggered hard when people say Switch is more powerful than the PS3. The PS3 is a fucking potato today but because of the exotic chip known as CELL they have a free pass to claim whatever they want to even though CELL was only good for folding proteins

You will see the PS4 Pro Extreme with a Zen CPU going to be released next year.

Mark my words.

now that you mention this, it's true. hardcore sony fans only play on sony platforms. i actually cant think of any sony fan who'd play on pc or xbox solely out of fanboyism. on the flip side i know loads of people who actively play on xbox/pc/nintendo consoles

I just want to play fun video games. PS4 Pro and Xbone X don't represent making games more fun.

That's because you need a pc Xbox and Nintendo console to compete with Sony

They have to do nothing. Devs wont waste the time putting the extra effort for the oneX unless microsoft pays them. Lookwhat happened to scalebound.

this, i know a guy that bought 5 different 360's because they broke or he wanted the newer model.

Honestly the decline really just boils down to
>Wii's 15 minutes of fame dying and the Wii U not being able to make up for it
>Handhelds falling out due to the rise of smart phones
Comparing 360/PS3 sales in 2008 to PS4/Xbone in 2015
>2008: 21.62M units total
>2015: 25.97M units total
PS4 and Xbone seem to be doing better two years into the gen than 360 and PS3

i know a guy who's been through 5 ps4's alone in the last 12 months. retards like this exist on every platform.

That's more of a indicator of where handheld is going

Does MS shill Jez Corden need reminding that the Xbone is the lowest common denominator?

I'd like someone to ask him what happened to showcasing 4K using RDR and Battlefront 2.

What "true value"? Explain to me, how a dumbed down, vendor-locked PC for 500 bucks and few exclusives is better than normal PC or PS4?

I wonder if he's still confused?

Am I the only one who thinks this is borderline autistic? I haven't bought a console since the PS3, but as a PC gamer it makes sense to me that if I pay more for a console I should at least get the option to play at a higher framerate. Plus, console shooters are autoaim fest, so it shouldn't tip the scales too much, it'd just feel nicer.

He is right though

Exclusives are the only thing that matters to autists on Sup Forums. If you aren't a sperglord then you don't care about them too much. They're just an extra topping for the console so to speak. It's why no one wanted a fucking Wii U.

xbone doesnt need to do anything either
When a game that is supposed to run 4k@30fps the moments when fps dips will be lower on xbonex than the pro.
You think devs will be arsed to fully optimize their shit to run at the framerate they always promise?

No matter how you look at it, having a higher framerate is as advantage. Why do you think any competitive PC player uses the lowest settings possible?

>Untextured
If only he knew

>Haven't they already confirmed it'll be unlocked on the PC?
What does that have to do with anything?

How can the Xbonx be the most powerful console when The Cell has literally infinite power?

Friendly reminder that most people that get a new iphone don't actually put down the cost on the phone, they just sign a service contract for x amount of years and get the phone for """free""". You're not getting the xXboneXx without dropping half a grand.

>colors are childish
I hate this meme. It's what I thought when I was twelve.

user you're thinking about consoles in terms that were relevant back when there was x360 and ps3. Or any other "ordinary"

The consoles you have now are PC's with proprietary OS, sometimes API's and some drivers(they are little bit different from ordinary PC's).

All the devs do is porting PC versions and tweaking the settings until they achieve the framerates they wanted to get, if the hardware allows for this they just crank them up higher and say it's good to go. This is also why you see PS4pro and XbonerX - in the past introduction of such models would mean that the devs are going to have a hard time or just ignore the platforms that aren't that popular(as in - both of those would be DOA). Nowadays you just have the game detect whether it's bonerx or pro and get the resolution higher or set the details higher or whatever, really.

>HURDUR the console that came out almost two years later had better visuals.

Kill yourself.

LOL JUST MAX OUT THE GRAPHICS AND THE FRAMERATE

you are an idiot

There is no "value" in the Xbone X. It has zero exclusives and is over twice the price of a PS4 Slim. Aside from Nintendo games the PC covers everything else.

Not an argument, but its cute you still try to validate your existence.

I really enjoy their modern Disney-esque cartoony yet high detail renders.

Devs are designing around the PS4 pro's shit attach rate, that's for sure.

I was too disappointed with the PS3 to get a PS4 tbqhwy.